No, Not That Napoleon | Interview: Edward Shawcross

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Jonah Goldberg scratches an intellectual itch in this 90-minute interview with British historian Edward Shawcross to discuss the rise and fall of Napoleon III. Is this the start of modern politics? Can we compare Trump to this unlikely political victor? Are elites and foreign powers the favorite boogeymen of populists everywhere? Stay tuned for a brief history lesson and indulgent wonkery.  Show Notes: —Edward Shawcross’s book: The People’s Emperor: The Unlikely Rise and Spectacular Fall of Napoleon III —‘A dwarf atop a great wave’ —The Lost History of Liberalism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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