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EPISODE · May 30, 2025 · 31 MIN

No Perfect Briefs, No Perfect Bosses: What Real Leadership Looks Like

from The Growth Distillery · host The Growth Distillery

Welcome to Stories Untold!This season is about pulling back the curtain, on the mess, the moments, and the lessons you don’t always hear out loud.In this first episode, we sit down with Xanthe Wells, VP of Global Creative for Pinterest, to talk about what it really takes to grow, as a leader, a creative and a human. From early missteps in management to the reality of building safe spaces for risk, this is a conversation about staying open when everything around you is shifting.Here’s what we get into:• Why being promoted is not the same as being prepared• How to protect the space for creativity, risk and realness• The uncomfortable truth about never having the “right” brief, team or budget• Why safety, not polish, is the foundation of creative work• What it means to lead when everything, and nothing, is certainIf you’ve ever found yourself in the chaos of doing the work and figuring it out as you go, this one’s for you. Hit play and exhale.

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