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No Risk, No Reward?!

An episode of the That Law Life podcast, hosted by Kathy Winkleman, titled "No Risk, No Reward?!" was published on August 26, 2024 and runs 20 minutes.

August 26, 2024 ·20m · That Law Life

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Thank you for listening to the newest episode of the That Law Life Podcast.  I have 2 corrections— I said “stamina” when talking about the higher ranked law school…I meant “stigma.”  I also mentioned that if you are considering a non-ABA law school you can’t let rumors or gossip mills deter you from the path you feel is best for you (I mentioned this when talking about bar results at the higher ranked law school).  To clarify— most higher ranked law schools do in fact have a higher bar pass rate than non-ABA law schools.  For example, in February 2024, for 1st time takers, the pass rate was 55.1% for graduates of a CA ABA law school and the pass rate was 35.3% from CA Accredited law schools.  However, the Ventura Colleges of Law had a first time pass rate for February 2024 of 45.5% which is not that far behind the ABA pass rate.  Still higher, but we are closing the gap.  If you’d like to see the full February 2024 report, here is the link: https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/documents/admissions/Examinations/February-2024-CBX-Statistics.pdf I also talked about other states that may allow non-ABA students to take their bar exam, here are a few links that discuss that information.  Some of this information may be outdated, so make sure you check the specific states website as well. https://www.novus.edu/Bar/styled/statebystate.html https://www.sjcl.edu/admissions/practicing-outside-california As I mentioned in this episode— I do not think that attending a non-ABA law is a good option for everyone, but for those of us who can justify the risk vs. the reward, it might be a good fit.   As always, if you have any questions you can email me at: [email protected], or send me a message on IG @legallykathy and don’t forget to follow me over on TikTok also @legallykathy. See you back on September 5th where we will welcome our new co-host, Allison Kight, as we discuss Why We Love the Legal Profession!

Thank you for listening to the newest episode of the That Law Life Podcast. 


I have 2 corrections— I said “stamina” when talking about the higher ranked law school…I meant “stigma.”  I also mentioned that if you are considering a non-ABA law school you can’t let rumors or gossip mills deter you from the path you feel is best for you (I mentioned this when talking about bar results at the higher ranked law school).  To clarify— most higher ranked law schools do in fact have a higher bar pass rate than non-ABA law schools.  For example, in February 2024, for 1st time takers, the pass rate was 55.1% for graduates of a CA ABA law school and the pass rate was 35.3% from CA Accredited law schools.  However, the Ventura Colleges of Law had a first time pass rate for February 2024 of 45.5% which is not that far behind the ABA pass rate.  Still higher, but we are closing the gap.  If you’d like to see the full February 2024 report, here is the link: https://www.calbar.ca.gov/Portals/0/documents/admissions/Examinations/February-2024-CBX-Statistics.pdf


I also talked about other states that may allow non-ABA students to take their bar exam, here are a few links that discuss that information.  Some of this information may be outdated, so make sure you check the specific states website as well.

https://www.novus.edu/Bar/styled/statebystate.html

https://www.sjcl.edu/admissions/practicing-outside-california


As I mentioned in this episode— I do not think that attending a non-ABA law is a good option for everyone, but for those of us who can justify the risk vs. the reward, it might be a good fit.  

As always, if you have any questions you can email me at: [email protected], or send me a message on IG @legallykathy and don’t forget to follow me over on TikTok also @legallykathy.


See you back on September 5th where we will welcome our new co-host, Allison Kight, as we discuss Why We Love the Legal Profession!

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