No Thing Left Unturned - In Conversation with Michael Bailey Smith (Fantastic Four ‘94)

Join hosts Peter Melnick and Eddie Wilson as they sit down with genre icon Michael Bailey Smith (Men in Black II, The Hills Have Eyes, Charmed) for a no-holds-barred deep dive into his extraordinary career. The conversation centers on his unforgettable role as Ben Grimm / The Thing in Roger Corman’s legendary unreleased 1994 Fantastic Four film—a cult classic that never saw the light of day... until now. Smith shares behind-the-scenes stories from the low-budget production, the infamous “never meant to be released” myth, and how the project shaped his approach to playing larger-than-life characters. From practical effects mishaps to on-set camaraderie with the doomed cast, no stone is left unturned. Timed perfectly with Marvel Studios’ The Fantastic Four: First Steps landing on Disney+, this episode celebrates the First Family’s long-awaited return to the spotlight while honoring the scrappy indie effort that kept the dream alive for three decades.