Nobody Runs on an Atheist Platform | Mayor Mack Womack | The Upgrade w Joe Adevai #007

Pastor Joe sits down with a very special guest, Mayor Mack Womack of North Brunswick, New Jersey. Mayor Womack has served the town for 21 consecutive years. Born in Travelers Rest, South Carolina (the same town as Jesse Jackson), Mack's journey took him through West Virginia, Orlando, Alabama, and a failed Jimmy Carter reelection campaign before law school and a girl from Bayonne brought him to New Jersey for good. Pastor Joe and the mayor go way back to when their kids were scratching out violin recitals at the same elementary school. This conversation covers everything from why New Jersey property taxes are so high to the future train station, how faith-based organizations fit into the fabric of a community, and what it was like when the mayor showed up at Grace Church's little storefront on 9/11. Funny, honest, and surprisingly deep, this one shows you the heart behind the office. Whether you live in North Brunswick or not, this is a conversation about what real public service looks like.