Non-Extractivist Learning with Lyla June Johnston and Morag Gamble

In this episode, I welcome Dr Lyla June Johnston, a multi-genre Indigenous musician, scholar, and community organizer of Diné (Navajo), Tsétsêhéstâhese (Cheyenne) and European lineages to explore what it means to learn from Indigenous cultures in a non-extractivist way. This episode is part of the recorded series from the International Festival of Ideas, held in May 2024.Lyla's conversation is an honest look into how we can move from an embedded colonial-settler mindset when engaging with Indigenous peoples and knowledge to a collaborative and decolonial relationship - asking the question "how can I help, if at all?"She has engaged audiences around the globe towards personal, collective, and ecological healing, blending her study of Human Ecology at Stanford, graduate work in Indigenous Pedagogy, and the traditional worldview she grew up with to inform her music, perspectives and solutions.She recently finished her PhD on the ways in which pre-colonial Indigenous Nations shaped large regions of Turtle Island (aka the Americas) to produce abundant food systems for humans and non-humans.To see more of Lyla's work, visit her website to find her music, writings and speeches.To find the recordings of conversations and events from the International Permaculture Festival of Ideas, visit the Permaculture Education Institute.I'd love to hear from you. Text me here.Support the show_____MORAG GAMBLEFounder, Permaculture Education InstituteMorag's CoursesPodcast BlogPodcast YouTube: Podcast InstagramLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/moraggamble/I am a possibilitarian and I believe in HumanKINDness.In this podcast my guests and I explore How are we to live? Really live, as nature ourselves, tending the conditions where life can thrive. We ask How do we become the kind of humans this moment is asking us to be?This podcast is one of my acts of myceliation. Each conversation is a thread in a vast network of people speaking up for life with love and care. This podcast beams out from my hand-built solar-powered studio in the midst of a permaculture food forest in a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara and Gubbi Gubbi country.If this episode lights something in you, pass it to one person who needs it. That is how myceliation works.