Normal and Boring

The superstar illustrator Christoph Niemann is on a mission to better understand Europe. 'In Praise of a Normal, Boring Country', the latest installment of his New York Times visual essay series, took him to Estonia. We rang him up in Berlin to talk about his trip and a bunch of other stuff. Also this week: Dominic gets to grips with debt mutualisation, and Katy gets to grips with mittens. Thanks for listening! If you like our show, you can help us keep making it at Patreon: https://patreon.com/europeanspodcast Read Christoph's lovely visual essay about Estonia here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/25/magazine/dispatches-estonia.html Isolation Inspiration: Sunday Sketching by Christoph Niemann | Unorthodox on Netflix Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | [email protected]