Normally Podcast: Charlie Kirk Murder Trial Moves Forward as Conspiracy Theories Spiral

Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down the latest developments in the Charlie Kirk murder case after a Utah judge rules that prosecutors have presented enough evidence for Tyler Robinson to stand trial, with the death penalty remaining on the table. They examine the legal arguments surrounding the case and the explosion of conspiracy theories that has followed Kirk's killing. Mary Katharine and Karol discuss Candace Owens' claims, the true-crime culture surrounding real-life tragedies, and why people can become so invested in online theories that contradictory evidence no longer changes their minds. Then, the conversation turns to the Democratic Party. Sen. Ed Markey defeats Rep. Seth Moulton in the Massachusetts Democratic Senate primary after Moulton previously walked back his criticism of biological males competing in women's sports. Meanwhile, old comments from James Talarico resurface in which he connected capitalism with white supremacy, raising questions about his attempt to distance himself from his previous progressive positions. Plus, Abdul El-Sayed's past comments claiming the American dream is easier to achieve in Canada come under scrutiny, and Mary Katharine and Karol look at the looming college enrollment bust as universities such as Syracuse struggle with declining demand, soaring costs, administrative bloat, and questions about the value of a college degree. Finally, they take on the threatened Seattle teachers strike, including teacher compensation, declining enrollment, school budgets, and the growing battle between teachers unions and public-school districts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.