Norris Seider? Showtime (and JVR) Magic, and Cossa Surging - Dec. 7th, 2025

Is it time that Moritz Seider got more serious consideration for Norris Trophy votes...or maybe an even bigger trophy? Tune in as we begin by discussing the Detroit Red Wings and their crazy shootout loss to the Columbus Blue Jackets, including production from Dylan Larkin, Lucas Raymond, Patrick Kane, James van Riesmdyk, Alex DeBrincat, Moritz Seider, and others, a lack of goaltending from both Talbot and Merzlikins, blown leads and more from Todd McLellan's squad (4:00). Next, the Red Wings' bounceback win over the Seattle Kraken, including an all 2003 Draft Class goal from Emmitt Finnie, Nate Danielson, and Axel Sandin-Pellikka, Larkin and Danielson both returning after being hit by pucks, John Gibson hanging on for the win, and Andrew Copp, JVR, and Patrick Kane (in a classic Showtime moment called by Ken Daniels) leading the scoring charge. Also, notes on McLellan's team's offensive metrics, upcoming games, & more (16:00). We then take a look at Moritz Seider both by the eye test and the numbers this season, whether he deserves serious Norris Trophy consideration behind Cale Makar and alongside players like Morrissey, Werenski, Heiskanen, and others, how he's helped Simon Edvinsson excel, and whether MVP voting is crazy to think about (29:20). After that, Sebastian Cossa, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard, and the Grand Rapids Griffins' record start in the AHL (as well as Rudy Guimond's QMJHL accolades) (39:30), and NHL news including a Quinn Hughes update, Erik Gustafsson trade rumors and what Steve Yzerman might demand in return, and a potential longshot trade target in Phillip Danault (43:10). All of that & lots more before we take your questions and comments in our Overtime segment (54:20) - enjoy! Head over to wingedwheelpodcast.com to find all the ways to listen, how to support the show, and so much more! Support the Jamie Daniels Foundation through Wings Money on the Board: https://www.wingedwheelpodcast.com/wingsmotb Prashanth's Article: https://prashanthiyer.substack.com/p/building-moritz-seiders-mvp-case