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EPISODE · Dec 27, 2025 · 45 MIN

Not an Impasse: Child Safety, Privacy, and Healing Together (39c3)

from Chaos Computer Club - recent audio-only feed · host Kate Sim

From the EU’s “Chat Control” to the UK’s age verification, there is a growing legislative momentum across jurisdictions to regulate the Internet in the name of protecting children. The monstrosity of child sexual abuse looms large in shaping how policymakers, advocates, and the public understand the problem area of and propose solutions for detecting, reporting, and removing harmful/illegal content. Children’s safety and adults’ privacy are thus pitted against each other, deadlocked into an impasse. As technologists deeply concerned with safety and privacy, where do we go from here? There is a path forward! Many, in fact. But the impasse framing seriously limits how policymakers, technologists, advocates, and our communities understand child sexual abuse (CSA). We need informed, principled, and bold alternatives to policing-driven tech solutions like client-side scanning and grooming classifiers. To effectively and humanely break the cycles of abuse that enables CSA in our communities, we have to think beyond criminalization. This talk will unpack how and why this impasse framing exists, how it constrains us from candidly engaging with the complexity of CSA. Drawing from scientific and clinical research and informed by transformative justice approaches, I detail what CSA is, how and why it happens offline and online, and why the status quo of detection and criminalization does not work. Ultimately, I argue that effective, humane, and collective interventions require protecting the safety and privacy of all those harmed by CSA, and that this creates a unique role for technologists to play. Licensed to the public under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0 about this event: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2025/hub/event/detail/not-an-impasse-child-safety-privacy-and-healing-together

From the EU’s “Chat Control” to the UK’s age verification, there is a growing legislative momentum across jurisdictions to regulate the Internet in the name of protecting children. The monstrosity of child sexual abuse looms large in shaping how policymakers, advocates, and the public understand the problem area of and propose solutions for detecting, reporting, and removing harmful/illegal content. Children’s safety and adults’ privacy are thus pitted against each other, deadlocked into an impasse. As technologists deeply concerned with safety and privacy, where do we go from here? There is a path forward! Many, in fact. But the impasse framing seriously limits how policymakers, technologists, advocates, and our communities understand child sexual abuse (CSA). We need informed, principled, and bold alternatives to policing-driven tech solutions like client-side scanning and grooming classifiers. To effectively and humanely break the cycles of abuse that enables CSA in our communities, we have to think beyond criminalization. This talk will unpack how and why this impasse framing exists, how it constrains us from candidly engaging with the complexity of CSA. Drawing from scientific and clinical research and informed by transformative justice approaches, I detail what CSA is, how and why it happens offline and online, and why the status quo of detection and criminalization does not work. Ultimately, I argue that effective, humane, and collective interventions require protecting the safety and privacy of all those harmed by CSA, and that this creates a unique role for technologists to play. Licensed to the public under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0 about this event: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2025/hub/event/detail/not-an-impasse-child-safety-privacy-and-healing-together

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