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EPISODE · Apr 10, 2026 · 34 MIN

Not Everything Is an Agent

from RevOpsAF The Podcast · host Matt Volm

Everyone's calling their product an "AI agent." Most of them are wrong — and the difference matters a lot for how you build your RevOps tech stack.   In this episode, Emir Atli (Co-founder & CRO of HockeyStack) joins Matt Volm to define what a true revenue agent actually is, why the data foundation most teams have won't support real AI deployment, and what this all means for the future of RevOps as a function.   Emir walks through the five eras of go-to-market software — from static dashboards to autonomous workers — and explains exactly where most "AI" tools actually fall on that spectrum. He also shares what separates the best RevOps teams from the rest after working with 300+ enterprise customers, and why he believes AI will create more demand for great go-to-market talent, not less.   🎙️ Speakers: - Emir Atli, Co-founder & CRO at HockeyStack — https://www.linkedin.com/in/emircatli/ - Matthew Volm, CEO & Co-founder at RevOps Co-op — https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewvolm/   🔗 Resources: - HockeyStack: https://www.hockeystack.com - More podcast episodes: https://www.revopscoop.com/podcast   👉 Join the RevOps Co-op community: https://www.revopscoop.com/membership/membership-options   🌐 Visit us: https://www.revopscoop.com 💼 Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revops-co-op   #RevOps #RevenueOperations #SalesOps #MarketingOps #AI #GoToMarket #GTM #RevenueAgents #B2B

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Everyone's calling their product an "AI agent." Most of them are wrong — and the difference matters a lot for how you build your RevOps tech stack.   In this episode, Emir Atli (Co-founder & CRO of HockeyStack) joins Matt Volm to define what a true revenue agent actually is, why the data foundation most teams have won't support real AI deployment, and what this all means for the future of RevOps as a function.   Emir walks through the five eras of go-to-market software — from static dashboards to autonomous workers — and explains exactly where most "AI" tools actually fall on that spectrum. He also shares what separates the best RevOps teams from the rest after working with 300+ enterprise customers, and why he believes AI will create more demand for great go-to-market talent, not less.   🎙️ Speakers: - Emir Atli, Co-founder & CRO at HockeyStack — https://www.linkedin.com/in/emircatli/ - Matthew Volm, CEO & Co-founder at RevOps Co-op — https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewvolm/   🔗 Resources: - HockeyStack: https://www.hockeystack.com - More podcast episodes: https://www.revopscoop.com/podcast   👉 Join the RevOps Co-op community: https://www.revopscoop.com/membership/membership-options   🌐 Visit us: https://www.revopscoop.com 💼 Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revops-co-op   #RevOps #RevenueOperations #SalesOps #MarketingOps #AI #GoToMarket #GTM #RevenueAgents #B2B

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