Not for me Clive: England fans abroad (with Barney Ronay)

Misplaced masculinity, noisy minority, or misunderstood?  Today we're joined by The Guardian journalist, Barney Ronay, to discuss themes he wrote about in his article from October 2019, entitled 'England right to call out racism but noisy minority is sending a different message' https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/oct/14/england-racism-euro-qualifiers-barney-ronay Why do England fans garner such an uncomfortable reputation abroad? Does their behaviour discourage women and children from attending? Is it a masculinity issue?  There is no doubt that over the past five years, the behaviour of a certain section of England fans has raised red flags about football hooliganism. Behaviour we thought had been consigned to history has reared its ugly head again in cities such as Lille, Marseille, Prague, and Amsterdam. We ask Barney about how big the problem is, where it's come from, and what it means for the future of following England abroad.  If you enjoy this episode, or any of our other episodes, please pop over to apple podcasts, and give us a rating and a review.  https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/man-marking/id1506661828 You can find us on Twitter @marking_man and don't forget to use the hashtag #WheresTheTalkingLads  If you have been affected by any of the themes discussed in today's episode, we have listed some organisations below who are there if you need to talk: Samaritans  Call 116 132 for free https://www.samaritans.org/ Papyrus UK Call 0800 068 41 41 Papyrus Website CALM ZONE 0800 58 58 58 https://www.thecalmzone.net/help/helpline/