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My name is Lee Barlow. I'm in Nashville, Tennessee. My partner, Adele, is in Greenfield, Massachusetts. Adele?
Hi everyone. Good day. Yes, I'm here in Greenfield. It's a sunny day.
It's supposed to be a scorcher. I'm not sure if I'm going to take Izzy's swimming after she's on the camp, but possibly. What's the weather like there? Well, there's not a cloud in the sky here in Nashville, Tennessee.
Does it get muggy there? Oh yeah. I love it. Yeah, you love muggy.
I really like the summer. I like stifling heat. I dislike air conditioning. When I walk into a hotel room, I immediately turn off the air conditioning, which I did here.
And it's still cold here because of the entire building. Of course, the windows don't open. You all have one little vent. The air from the outside in each of these rooms.
It's still cold in here. Yeah. Just from the being surrounded by air conditioning. I've been in the room for 20 hours.
You're speaking quicker today. Well, I'd like to apologize to all of our happy birthday people. The birthday episode, I was extremely, I didn't realize it, but I was very, very stoned when we recorded our happy birthday episode. And because it was my day off yesterday, days off on tour, have like a ritual.
I get into the hotel room. If I have, if I have cannabis, I will consume it. And a lot of it, which I don't do all the time. I don't do it at home so much anymore.
Oh man, I've been through a lot of phases in my life. But I found, and one thing I did find was doing the podcast while high on cannabis was actually problematic because I don't complete my sentences. There's a lot of ideas converging. I like my imagination kind of taking over for a while.
It's a nice break, brain break. And I've been working pretty hard. I figure I deserve it. Walking to a day off on tour, everything that I deserve, whatever, I deserve this.
I've earned this. On my own, I deserve to be alone. I'm not leaving. I'm not going to talk to anybody but you.
And I really immerse myself on that. But it is not, it doesn't really work with podcasting. microphone articulately is not something that happens when I'm high. And I've learned this over the two and a half years that we've been doing the podcast.
This is something I've learned and I have um, stopped really doing podcasts high, except for our last episode. Happy for all those July babies. There was so many too. There's so many.
Now that's just how life goes. You learn these lessons just when you learn them. Or you just slowly or I don't know if you learn them, you live them again. Learn does learning mean that you then do something different and then or I don't know.
Well, I have a song called repeat. Yeah, that's true. Pete, learn. Yeah, maybe eventually learn.
Can I tell you something? Please, I'm talking too much. No, you're not. It's great.
I, uh, I love it. I love hearing your voice. And, uh, so what I was going to say is you're talking about how you use cannabis to kind of like, uh, immerse yourself into thoughts right into kind of, maybe get your brain going right is that we were talking about, like kind of creatively, stimulate yourself. Would that be accurate or?
You like there's an alignment that happens. Okay. You know, like where I really do relax when I'm a little. And but does it give you ideas?
Like, or do you feel like not that it gives you, but it makes you like more available to receive things? Does that make sense or? Okay. I think that's, although that too could be sort of a fiction that I've created.
Sure. That's true. A story that you're like, I've developed a story and I believe it now and I'm going to live it. And okay.
Yeah. That would be, but you know, there was, uh, not to be too in depth or to recovery speak because I'm not in recovery, but something like alcohol that the I had a story that alcohol made it easier for me to talk to people. Sure. But ultimately, as my life has progressed, I realized that it actually makes things more difficult.
I want to say now, this is many music. Many music mother. Let's wrap it up. Let's back it up, wrap it up.
Let's get to the song. So yeah, um, last time on Tiny Tunes Tuesday, I covered a Billy Joel song, just the way you are. And in the course of the episode, I mentioned Tom Sharpley. Yes.
A best show. The Quentin's. I think it's just called Best Show. Oh, sure.
I think so. That's my everyone on. Best show. began as a radio show on WF MU.
Okay. With Hien Jung Rester. He skits and really it was a long time ago, but they, uh, but Tom I've known for a very long time because he wrote a fan scene anyway. So I mentioned him in the Billy Joel during the course of the Billy Joel, Tim C.
C. Tiny Tunes Tuesday because he really hates Billy Joel. And he texted me after the episode. And, um, said it's not that he hates, I sort of insinuate that Tom does not like Billy Joel's songs in the episode, but actually, okay, it feels that Billy Joel is more cringe.
The person, the who he is. Billy Joel, the man, the myth, the subject of a recent documentary series. Oh, okay. Yes.
There's so much in the world guys. I can't keep up with everything. I covered that song. I didn't realize I tapped into something deeper because I got some paint in the Barlow family store that was called New York State of Mind.
Yes. I told you that and you didn't know that. That was also cool. Right?
Also, you know, I'm like, I'm out in the crowd. I was out in the crowd and I was very parking. Two guys were talking about Billy Joel. Amazing.
And then I was visiting my sister. She starts talking about Billy Joel. Okay. Tom texted me.
So we have this kind of like text. One or two times a year, we'll text each other for about a flurry. Right? We do a flurry.
Like here. And so we had a little Billy Joel flurry. And he said, I said, we started talking about piano players and how people are just dedicated piano players. But that's all they're kind of cheesy.
They're kind of cringe. Whereas people who are multi instrumentalists, like everybody else like Mili Young and Joni Mitchell, they're not really cringe. But people who are fully because the piano has such a history that's so tied to like Broadway and like really lyrical songs and flights of fancy. There's a real showbiz aspect to people who just play the piano.
That's a generalization that we had. But Tom said, Oh, wait a minute. There is an example of Billy Joel playing guitar. And it's the matter of trust video from 1986.
He sent me a link. She and I I think watched the whole video sort of together. Yeah. Like is that in tandem or?
And then the course of it, we texted each other like, Hey, this song isn't so bad. And I said, gosh, I think I got to cover this song, matter of trust for the Ridge album in 1986. Okay. So and I realized that I am I am down the Joel whole.
Oh, and Tom seemed excited about this. But I was going down the Joel Hall. He said, I look forward to covering another song. Sorry.
The Joel Hall, most likely. I know. Sorry. I couldn't help it.
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Learn more at sharkninja.ca. Sorry. So, um, so I, the other day on my first day off on the tour, which we did not podcast, but I did was I spent the whole day learning matter of trust, my Billy Joel. And I'm going to play it for you.
Please do. I'm fucking excited. Song commencing in three Joel holes. Joel whole Joel whole Joel whole.
It's just a constant battle for the ultimate state of control. After you've heard, I have a question. Why? I have things to say.
Number one. And I told you this like in our real life, I think not recorded, but that I had a greatest in Billy Joel's cassette tape when I was little. And like, didn't I tell you that or did I tell you that? No, I forgot to tell you that.
But when I was little, a young, young girl, like maybe second or third grade or something, like is his age kind of, I was listening to all my music on cassette tapes on boomboxes in my bedroom. This was, I think, pre-CD, even, you know what I mean? Like, I, or I didn't have a CD player yet, but um, whatever. And I had a Billy Joel's greatest hits cassette tape and I loved it.
And I played like the shit out of it. All right. And I haven't heard that song in it. That was literally like pulling my youth out when you, when I just heard it now.
And I loved that song actually. It's funny that you guys had that moment with that song because I forgot how much I loved that song. And I'm sorry, I have to keep saying that I loved it then. I love it now.
And this is connecting to, I have been listening to the really insane compilation, the Lou Barlow really insane one because I was like, you know, I've never listened to this. And this is my honey bunny. I should learn about him. So the right.
I've been listening to it. You know, yeah. It's totally so much of it's totally new to me. And that recording of it, it kind of was interesting.
It sort of brought me into that feeling of that. Yeah, I wanted to make I wanted to make it sound like a little bit. It does. It does.
Really big. I wanted to make actually sounds like a Marlowe song. Even the lyrics do. Where this is what happened when I covered it?
Because when I listened to the original version, I was like, I mean, the original version is it's a tough ride because the production is very 80. It's very very very and his his delivery is so strident and like, and then when you really pick the lyrics apart, it's dark actually. It's really not an optimistic song about love. It's pretty dark.
And I had a realization recently I was listening to one of my old records because I do that. John Davis and I were working on and the lead up and surrounding it, I will sometimes try to put my things into perspective by listening to some of my old work. And I was songs from Libby Court record and I was shocked at how dark it was. Like really dark and negative and it's brightened in its own way.
So when I when I immersed myself in this Billy song, and at first I thought, oh, this is actually going to be much much much harder than I imagined because of the phrasing of the words, but then I started to do it and came out completely naturally. And I was like, whoa, I found like, there's there is this thing about Billy, which makes him it's the edge of cringe because he takes himself so seriously in some of his songs or many of his songs, which I've struggled with myself, like a lot of my songs really are very serious. And I felt the bond when I was down my Joel hole. When I went down that Joel hole, I found myself.
I found myself in that song. It was I and I just I realized it's like all journeys start, you know, and you're like, where is this going and why I often feel that way. When I work on things with podcasts like, why? I mean, who really wants to hear, you know, meticulous reconstruction of the streak, a novelty song on the seven who really wants to hear that once they hear it commercial, read someone recreate a commercial, a toy commercial, there's a lot of things that I've done for this podcast that are real head scratchers, but I do it.
It's part of my journey. And I didn't know that the Joel hole was my journey. But when I did matter of trust, I was like, this is now feeling so familiar. And it sounds a lot like a song of mine called active faith.
I love that song of trust. Active faith sounds like it could be a fucking Billy Joel song. I think he also has a song for people in faith, but it the active faith actually sounds. I've chosen.
So when I converted it to the strumming style, my own all-looking kind of sea chanting strumming style that often accompanies many of my a lot of my very overly serious work. But I really I found a real kinship of Billy when I cut it. I'm just loving all of this. And I feel like I don't know if I'm ready to let Billy go.
We might have to like keep him present somehow. I'm not sure how yet, but I'm not sure if I'm ready to let him go. The world around me is what pushed me forward. And then Tom, Tom, sharpling texting me about this and us having a little conversation about Billy and then, you know, but I think it was important for him to tell me that he did actually respect Billy's songwriting.
It's just that he thinks Billy is a is that because I was Tom's from the East Coast. Okay. Oh yeah, I think that there is a thing where it's very difficult for people who are from the East Coast. This is a this is a wide generalization.
They tend to view sincerity and effort that's like notable as cringe. Right? Like you can't you can't let people actually know you're trying too hard. When I moved to Massachusetts at the age of 12, I came from Michigan and then they passed a lot of let earnest.
That's what I mean. I was the dizziness. This like, you get to I got to Massachusetts and was like, so is it Billy Joel though from was he from where's he from New Jersey or from New Jersey or from New Jersey from there? He's from the area from place.
Even though he is East Coast, he is deeply. I guess Billy Joel to me has a desperation about it. Well, ironically, I'm a lot of the art that does come. Let's make another sweeping generalization.
A lot of the artists that do come from New York and do come actually are very, very intense and very earnest. Like even Lou Reed, there's no one there's no like California, like there's none of that. You know, there's none of the, you know, canyon vibes. There's no canyon vibes in music that comes from New York and even the rap.
It's even the rap. Like you can compare like the smalls JZ to Snoop and the West Coast crew. I don't know about two bucks. California is like one of my favorite songs.
Yeah, but that's a doctor drink production. Okay, Dr. Dre, his production style, the openness of it, the playfulness as if you A B that with what Biggie Smalls and JZ were doing, that stuff was dark, like really early Biggie Smalls and dark, like beautiful fucking soundscapes, but dark, public enemy. I want to circle back to this idea that you're talking about like Billy Joel being earnest and East Coast.
They really find that cringe. So I'm kind of like impressed that I bet it's like against their nature to be so earnest with our art. Do you know what I'm saying in this environment because they are East Coast? So maybe that's where that little edge comes in.
Like the Lou Reed, the Billy Joel is that where the edge comes in? Because like they're fighting against their own sincerity, their own earnestness, but they can't help it be earnest. Maybe they feel like, Oh God, I'm being so fucking earnest. And I can't help myself.
But I know that's cringe. Oh God, but I have to. But so it's like this push and pull. That was the way I felt.
I knew that I was first ready. That is that is that's what I'm talking about. Okay, this is, you know, I had to really, I had to really push myself to just go look up my impulse is total honesty. You know, a total like transparency, honesty.
And I kind of found myself compelled towards the cringe. Like I wanted people when listening to the music to go, Oh God, this is making me uncomfortable. I actually wanted that. So maybe that's something too is that Billy and their compel they want to take people like maybe that's the East Coast like really wanting to bring people to the edge like I'm not bringing you to the edge.
Actually, so maybe you were maybe more confident than you even gave yourself credit for. I love writing and playing. So when I got to that zone, and oftentimes with the assistance of cannabis, you know, it would like bring me to that place, that kind of apocalyptic place where the mind must speak its truth. And then you lay it to music and there is an aggression behind it.
So I think with Billy, like that is a very honest song, but there is also what makes him interesting as a songwriter for me is there is an aggression. Totally. Yeah. And I think as what you're saying, like you're saying, well, the East Coast has such a, you know, it's not welcoming for people who are like, look at me, I'm trying hard.
I think we found the real link that how someone who lives in a culture where the culture is so, you know, suspicious of cringe and earnestness can also create the most cringe where they earnest music. I think that there is. I think we should wrap up this not so many music. Meet shark cryo glow, the new med spa inspired mask with under eye cooling, IQ LED technology using high powered LED and deep infrared for visible results in just eight weeks better aging treatment boosts collagen and is clinically tested to reduce fine lines and signs of aging.
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