Nothing Between You and Love: Zen Wisdom for Troubled Times

Dr. Habib sits down with Zen teacher, author, and spiritual director Busshō Lahn for a deeply timely conversation about awakening, truth, and what it means to live from love in a world marked by suffering.Raised within the Catholic tradition and later drawn into Zen practice, Busshō shares how a single spiritual seed can grow into a life of “multiple belongings.” Together, he and Dr. Habib explore the mystical heart shared across traditions — a place where differences soften and love becomes the center.But this conversation moves beyond personal spirituality into urgent territory. As communities grapple with violence, fear, and collective grief, Busshō invites us into a challenging yet transformative question: Where is the war inside of me?Rather than meeting fire with fire, he suggests that authentic spiritual practice calls us toward radical honesty — the courage to name our anger, face our wounds, and recognize even the shadow within ourselves. From that clarity emerges a love strong enough to say both yes to humanity and no to harm.Listeners will discover:Why the goal of spiritual practice is to leave “nothing between you and love”How contemplation prepares us for compassionate actionThe hidden miracle within ordinary lifeWhat it means to awaken during times of societal upheavalHow truth-telling becomes a path to freedomThis episode is an invitation — not to escape the world — but to meet it with a wiser, braver, more spacious heart.If you’ve ever wondered how inner transformation can shape outer change, this conversation is for you.Support the showTo make an appointment with Dr. Habib, visit https://www.habibboerger.com/.