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Nowhere ReIssue #14- Revisiting When Movies And TV Collide

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In this edition of the podcast from Nowhere, the guys take a look at the world of TV to Movie adaptations. The discuss the adaptations that hit the mark perfectly and the productions that dropped the ball. www.nowherecalifornia.com [email protected]

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I can't find her remote. Where's the fucking remote? There's probably a couch that we're preparing to use. Yes, we'll put it out on YouTube.

But I guess it's kind of another reissue. Yeah, she stepped in another pile of reissue. We'll give you a month of that. It's great.

It's true. Ew. It's not weird. We've kind of gone from making it the comic book stance of reissuing stuff to negative.

I know you. It's like, we're bored. We have no ideas. I can't put it.

We're all tired of hearing that one, boys. It's like, no, we're bored. We're tired. We don't want to do another regular episode, so you can't re-run.

Here you go. We're like pretentious TV networks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll take this in a corner and play with it.

Yeah. Speaking of TV networks, we're going to jump back to our episode 14, where we were talking about movies that were based on TV shows and vice versa, TV shows based on movies. Very recently, they just announced that there was going to be a Ships movie. And I didn't know this was going to happen until I read this article.

Dax Shepard is lined up to write, direct into art. He's playing the Larry Wilcox character. Oh. And Michael Pena is going to be punch.

Yeah, you're thinking Starsky and Hutch? Yeah, either. Yeah, yeah, something's going to be about it. Well, roughly, I read the article.

It's not going to be a slap city. It's not going to be a detriment to the latest of the show. It's not going to be a Starsky and Hutch. It's going to be more of, like they said, it's going to be more of an 18 lethal weapon-esque.

Well, that's good, because I certainly wouldn't want to see another 21, 22 jump strength. You and me, both. And this is Josh. And welcome to North California.

Well, folks, Josh is officially a geezer like me. He's hit the big 3-0. And it feels awkward. And it gets easier, buddy.

Hopefully. Is that gray hair? It's several. Oh.

It's not looking at pubes. Oh, sorry. Anywho, from what I understand, you went to, for your birthday, you went to Hollywood last month? Yeah, the day before my birthday, actually, I headed to Hollywood and crashed at my friend Doug's place, and we headed out to the John Lovitz Comedy Club to see the Hollywood Battle on Podcast recorded with Kevin Smith and Ralph Garmin.

Oh, sweet. It was pretty cool. It was interesting to see how the professionals do it. Oh, God.

Oh, really? They're not in their mother's spare room? No, they upgraded. They went to the John Lovitz Club.

But hey, we upgraded here, too. We got a new microphone. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it looks like it's going to kill us.

Yeah, yeah. It looks like a dude from Portal, right? Yeah. Yeah, but we're on Hollywood.

That one is really cool. Didn't see that live and everything. They did mention me and an email I sent to them. Did they really?

Yeah, and then afterwards got to meet one of the hosts, Ralph Garmin and the... Is that the Josh Schmo dude? Yeah, Josh Schmo host. Several voices on Family Guy.

Oh, sweet. And he's also on the Kevin Bean Radio Show. When I got to talk to him and everything, he's pretty cool. I told him about the podcast at all about North California and everything.

Showed him the buzz shots. Oh, he did a lot of buzz shots? Oh, he loved them. He thought they were makeup and I told him all computer generated.

And he was like, really? So, Tim Cross to be on that one. Yeah, well, that just made my day. Yeah, so he's a little guy and everything.

So, that's pretty much it. That's pretty much it. That's pretty memorable. I mean, that's very flattering if a pro podcaster was saying, hey, keep it up.

Yeah, definitely. And then I got home from Long Beach and I got around to clean some stuff out on EDR and finally finished up the Napoleon Dynamite cartoon. Wait, there was a Napoleon Dynamite cartoon? Yeah, I think they finished the first season.

Wait, oh my God. Oh my God, it is astounding what gets spawned from movies. Oh yeah. What television shows are inspired from it.

And that being said, that's basically the subject of a show today. Josh and I will be talking about our favorite TV television shows that came from movies. And then my first. Yeah, we're going to talk about our favorite.

Quickly, shoot out our favorite and our worst. Because this is over California and we always have to mention our least favorite. Yeah, we've got to cover our bases. So I'll go ahead and start that again.

Well, this probably won't come to a surprise to Josh or to myself. My personal favorite television show that would be spun from a movie is the real Ghostbusters. So let me shock you. Yeah, it's spun off from the 1984 film of the same name.

Well, not the real Ghostbusters. But regardless of the fact that the animation was different, you know, the colored uniforms and the cartoon characters really looked nothing like their movie counterparts. The characters remained intact. And the show, the cartoon may not be canon with the movies, but it just managed to really go on its own path.

It was just, well, it's the perfect cartoon for me. It was on par with Transformers and G.I. Joe. You know, that's the way I feel like it.

And my worst, it is a tie. The worst thing to have come from a movie is a tie between the animated cartoons of Rambo and RoboCop. Yeah, who the hell thought that was a good idea to make, you know, a hard R-rated action-adventure movie into a cartoon? I did, because the action-adventure, but...

Well, you know, you get kids with violence when they get to the age where they have to sneak R-rated movies around their parents. Oh, yeah, I understand that. But the thing is, it wasn't as if RoboCop was taking out his little, you know, computer, you know, ice pick thing from his fist and cutting out people's throats. Yeah, we would have loved to have seen that, but I didn't.

No, all the violence was kind of dumbed down. The animation was beautiful, just like most, you know, television shows of the 80s and 90s. But, you know, RoboCop now shoots lasers instead of bullets, so now he stuns his enemies. He's like, no!

Unless you've got the whole lightsaber effect where there's a brick right there and it colorizes the wound. Yeah, yeah, that's one thing. But no, no, these guys just get stunned. I mean, I see them going down and think of their wake later.

I'm like, oh, that's disappointing. So, 7K is a plus. Yeah, yeah. You know, as far as Randall goes, that's another thing.

He was kind of an anti-hero in the first movie. You know, and there's no blood in the cartoon. Oh, of course, you know, that's 80s and 90s. We don't want to see that shit.

No, no, no. I mean, they could have probably released a more adult-oriented one today, you know, made an anime out or something like that. Oh, in the world of Adult Swam, Comedy Central's cartoons, and even G4's Marvel anime. It's the norm.

It's the norm now, but it was, in fact, back in the day. But it's funny. You know, Rambo would do the same kind of thing. I guess he worked for the government and he'd take out the bad guys and at the very end he had like an OPSA message.

But the problem is, Rambo was like totally articulate, but I can understand you don't exactly want to hear you know, Rambo going yeah, drink your milk and eat your baby's kids. Yeah, but you know, that whole thought is just absurd to me. I mean, what would they be like, I don't know, a Die Hard or Terminator movie? Or a Terminator cartoon?

No, a Punisher. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, let people fuck with the kids. Yeah. They're blowing the fuck off. Yeah.

Fuck the world. Yeah. Well, sure. Okay, so that's my take.

Do you have any thoughts about my picks, dude? No, you have a good picks, and what I said, too, you're running on point with Rambo and Robocop. There are any movies. Why is it not in the kids' cartoons?

Honestly, that would not happen to me because to me, parents are like, no, you can't make Wolverine into a cartoon because he's white. Exactly. It'd be awesome. Oh, yeah.

But that's also, too, like you said, it's a comic place now. The whole fact that matters is it's a comic place because those kids in the 80s and 90s had to grow up with those bullshit cartoons. Yeah. They want to see real shit now in cartoons.

Yeah, they do. It's kind of a letdown thing. It's kind of like, oh, goody, I enjoyed the Robocop show, and you see it and there you have blowing people's heads up. Or it's the more kid you see on the news going up killing people.

Oh, God. Hell yeah. But to me, it's interesting how sometimes Hollywood just cannot come up with an original idea of one of them. This way of life doesn't end in the box office or in the theaters.

It's made its way to small screen as we just started discussing right now. Do you remember Bucky Vampire Slayer? Oh, yeah, that was a success. Do you remember My Big Peggy Life?

No. Because I was a little consumer. Yes. Some of them just don't transfer well.

I'll be back during the research and dark throwing. I saw across the fact Animal House and Paris Bueller had their own TV snubs. I was shocked to find that out when you sent me the site. What was that, late 90s or something like that?

For Bueller or... For Bueller it was early 90s. Yeah, no, actually it was late 80s. Oh, late 80s.

Yeah. And for Animal House it was early 70s. Animal House was known as built a house on TV. Oh, well, that's probably why it was hard to find.

Yeah, and Paris Bueller could stay off was known as well as Paris Bueller to stay off. So he had to be off the whole week? Yeah, every week. Well, that's just...

Yeah, that's the word. Yeah, the parents. Why is he never in school? If he could fool him that much at the time, you know, you'd have to be wasting all his money on all the damn sleeping puppets.

Yeah, exactly. Because he played his sister every episode? That's the deal. I don't remember that, but speaking of his sister, do you remember who she was played by?

Oh, she was the one for Bödy Dancing, right? No, in the TV form. Oh, TV form. No, who was it?

Jennifer Aniston. Are you fucking kidding me? That was Jennifer Aniston playing Paris Bueller's sister. Wow.

Well, I guess she did jump from a television show to a television show until she finally found friends. Yep, and she was happy on that one. Oh, yeah. So, basically, they'll start out with a favorite, and they'll start out with my least favorite.

All right. And for my least favorite movie transferred to a TV show, it's going to be kind of a shocker because this one, it only aired a few episodes on ABC in the year 2000, and Fall the Blame lays at the feet of the network. I'm talking about the first two version of Clerks. Oh, you hate that?

Yep, the Kemps with Clerks one I know is a shock. That is. Yeah. Anything that's titled, you know, that's a, I like Kemps with the show.

Usually on board. Yeah, I'll admit, I did watch the two, yes, I did say two episodes that aired on ABC. Oh, yeah, Josh, you hate it. Yeah, but let me get it done.

All right, all right. Kemps with Clerks did what they could with what the network system would allow them to. And this, basically, this back full from IMDb shows how ABC didn't exactly know what they were buying into. The fact states, when the studio bought the series, they apparently did not realize that Jay and Silent Bob were drug dealers.

Watch the fucking movie, dumbasses. Oh, God. When they were informed, the studio execs insisted that they be changed, and the two became firecracker dealers for the cartoons. Oh, my God.

They took the edge of My Little Pony. Did you say ABC? Yes, ABC. You know, what the fuck were they thinking?

I mean, did they ever see the movie, or did they just see Jay and Silent Bob and go, My Little Pony? Yeah, that's the problem that they saw, because about that time, of course, was really getting their cult status going, like, over on this. Oh, my God. There's only only two episodes that could ever actually aired.

There were six episodes total, only two actually aired. Oh, jeez. Yes. Without that out there, I can say, if there was a strong cartoon showing on Comedy Central minus South Park, or even in Adult Swim, if Fox would have given the show a shot, I think Clark Sandman series might have stayed around a little longer than the six episodes.

I thought it basically was given an unfair chance. Yeah, the networks, honestly, the best way to hear the explanation of everything that happened, get your hands on the cartoon, because it's good. It's good for a laugh, and also, too, listen to the commentary, because Kevin Smith and crew do go through the commentary. They do not say ABC by name, because they could get sued, but they do explain what the fuck happened.

Yeah, they just quote mark the network. Well, I guess, since the shocker of Clark's being my least favorite out there now, might as well just go with my favorite now, which won't really shock people, because it's MASH. Oh, you won't that, huh? Yeah, the series that was based on a movie of the same name in the 1970s.

Oh, sweet. The show is way before its time in the 1970s, and honestly, looking back at the episodes now, I don't think that it would survive in this ultra-PC world. No, not really, because of, well, you can't be glad to be war or something like that, and, um... Well, like the episode where Colonel Leggettized, that would go over like a freaking label and a popular character getting offed.

Yeah, exactly. That was the series finale, wasn't it? No, that was, if I remember correctly, it was the season finale of season three. Oh, okay.

That was one of the biggest shocking moments of the show. Yeah, that was the first, like one of the first episodes where the fans were just like, whoa, and the critics were like, this is a good show. Yeah, people kept tuning in. I mean, it was something else.

Yeah, I just recently finished the whole series. Okay. Like the series finale, I think, still stands as one of the top-rated series finales of all time. Yeah, because they're all going home, right?

Yeah, it was the end of the war. It had its ups and downs as a two-hour series finale. I think, and one of the documentaries on the special features on the disc, even mentioned that the television show maybe surpassed the film. No, no, no.

I'll have to admit this. I haven't really watched the movie. You're kidding me. I'm a little fearful.

Like I said, I just finished the whole series. I own the entire series. And it's just like, I'm kind of a little leery about jumping into the movie thinking, well, that's ain't the show. Well, yeah, it's probably going to be the show.

But you said the movie comes with the box set? Yeah, it does come with the box set. But did you really give a look? I mean, I only know the series, right?

But if I were, I would give a look. I mean, is it the same characters? No, it's basically the same characters. It's not the same people playing them.

There's Hawkeye, there's Trapper, there's Colonel Blake Hotlips, Frank Burns. Oh, the guy that plays Radar in the movie plays Radar in the TV series. Okay, now since we're moving past the movies that made their way to TV shows, let's flip the script and talk about TV shows that made their way to the big screen. All right.

Do you think that people that make up movie ideas just get paid by the hour? Well, yeah. I don't think they do because in some years it seems like they just pick up the TV guide and just go, hey, let's make that in the movie. Like, such as The The Blade of America and The Brain Munch Movie.

You know, that's kind of probably what they did, but I think there's something like with the older TV guys, like when they made The 18th and shit. Oh, yeah, yeah, that one. And Land of Lost. The movie makers just don't stretch their imagination.

No, they're just at home in their apartments waiting at old TV guys, which is just sad. But I do have to give the Jackass guys a little bit of an honorable mention. Oh? They just step to their formula and let's crank it up.

Crank. Yeah, it's funny you say that, but go ahead. Yeah, if you want to take a double on-ponder from that crank comment, give them some of the stuff they've done. Yeah, yeah.

And with that, I'll tell you more stuff. I'll start off with my newspaper again. All right. And this is going to be kind of a group of like the past episodes of the shit movies you gave me a group of those spoof movies, the disaster movies, which I did happen to read.

Scary Movie 5 is coming. Oh, shit. Well, you know, sometimes you just have to do it as a tiebreaker and call them as a whole because they're the same goddamn movie. Yes, you know?

Like these movies. Any of the SNL movies. Oh, no. And those are the worst TV to theater crossover.

Well, I'll agree with you there. I really do because Night of the Roxbury, Stewart Staves His Family. I kind of like Coneheads, but that's not saying much. No, you mentioned a couple that already on my list like Wayne's World 2 because Wayne's World 1, I'll let that buy.

Wayne's World 2, it's Pat, Stewart Staves His Family, and ladies' men, just to name it to you, like Night of the Roxbury. Night of the Roxbury's goofy, but come on. When's the new movie coming in? Yeah, you know, it's Pat really just put me asleep.

You know, you cannot melt that joke in an entire two-hour movie. Exactly. But I do have to say that Chris Bradley and Phil Hartman get a pass from me. Yeah.

Because those two were geniuses. I've told people before, I'll put it to wax here. Chris Bradley was in the library now, I swear he'd be doing dramas and just expanding completely. They do have him in them.

Yeah, he probably lost all that weight, not Joe on the Hill. Yeah, and Phil Hartman, honestly, he'd be going up for Oscars. Oh, yeah, he'd definitely be up for Oscars right now. Yeah, and also, too, I've got to give MacGyver a pass because that movie, for what the skit was, and all they were able to pull off, is such an underrated movie.

You know what, to tell you the truth, that was based on SNL? Yeah, it was- The movie may have actually been its own success. Yeah, and it wasn't really a success though. The success came from the fact that it was usually a skit that was in between skits.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But, you know, making fun of MacGyver, which I did roll up on, it was very good. It was a good skit of MacGyver. It was.

It was very funny, and the guy was just this goofy old shit. I actually, like I said, I don't own the movie MacGyver. I wouldn't mind doing it. It was not that bad.

I actually, I was rolling a couple times, but once again, I am just a sick bastard. Well, that's what we're going to do. Yeah, exactly. And now for my favorite, which won't be too big of a shock to anybody on this one again, The Simpsons movie.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was really tasteful. I love the way they worked in the advertisements.

Yeah, that's right. Advertisement's part of the movie. Yeah. And I had to make this choice for two reasons.

First, I love the show. And if you don't love The Simpsons, you can move back to a few assholes. Yes. And now the important reason.

Everyone that was a part of this movie, making this movie, doing voices, they wanted to make sure it was done right. They started the script in 2003, probably even earlier than that. And they went through 158 drafts of the script. They knew the fans were a lot glad that this movie got screwed up.

And they did a great job. I think that was just the genius writing of Matt Groening. Exactly. The genius writing of all of them.

Oh, yes. I'm sorry. I don't mean to take credit from him. But also, Matt Groening was probably in that meeting going, once you've got Scott.

Yeah. That was a bit of fun, maybe. Matt Eames is meant to be good. Oh, shit.

Yeah. I don't mean to discredit the other writers. I mean, it's the other writers that are keeping the show going. But, you know, just props on the creator.

Like I said, when The Simpsons ever leaves, a little part of me will die as well. I think a little part of everybody is going to die. Yeah. And with The Simpsons movie, I've honestly meant this.

This is what other TV shows that are going to try to cross over to movies should shoot for. Exactly. So what's your two cents on yours? Well, two cents on mine.

You mean my preferences? What are your choices for best and worst TV shows cross over to movies? Well, I think you set me up for this one. I recently saw, in my opinion, the best TV to movie transition, and that would have to be The Three Stooges.

How did I just see that one? Oh, man. You really should. I'm a fairly both fan, so I'll throw that out there, too.

Oh, absolutely. I mean, like anybody says, you know, they said that this was supposed to be a love letter to the Stooges, and you know what? It really is. I would almost believe that the actors actually channeled.

I would believe that the actors actually channeled the original Three Stooges, and they were along for the ride. It was that spot on. I mean, I wasn't watching people pretending to be the Three Stooges. I felt like I was watching the Three Stooges.

Everything down to their little nicks, their little dances. And even now, there's this part, and I'm sure you've probably heard about it, where they're in the hospital, and they have a pea fight with infants. You know, instead of a pie fight, a traditional pie fight, they're holding up and they're using these little newborn babies as guns and shooting piss at each other. Wow.

Oh, my God. And there's this one part where Mo, and I can see the actor almost trying to sustain laughter, but Mo's got the kids, you know, pointing at Larry's head. He goes, all right, put them down, and he goes, Larry's got one. And so Larry puts them down, he goes, all right, slide them over, and he's sliding the kid over, and now he's got two kids' legs.

The rest of it, I mean, it's got some, you know, a lot of humor here or there, but the thing is, it felt very scoogey, and it just felt legitimate. It felt real. Cool. Yeah, so give it a look at the camera.

Oh, yeah, I'm fine. So what do you think? Well, my worst, I think, would have to be, oh, man, I think I'm listening. I think he said Bewitched.

Oh, yeah, Bewitched. Now, it's not the worst movie in the world, right? But as far as a, you know, a movie based on a television show, do you think it should be based on a television show? It should, but they didn't.

What they're doing in the movie is supposedly filming a remake of the original show, and she happens to be a real witch auditioning for the part. I'm like, whose idea was that? You know, to basically break the reality of it, have a real witch, and he's not playing, he is an actor playing Darren, but he is not Darren. Yeah.

Why didn't they just say, you know, have him do the little meet and greet, oh, he bumps into her, he found out that she's a witch, and stuff like that. Because it's been done before. It's been done before. Difference.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know you said it could be good, but like I said, I actually enjoyed the movie, but I don't think it was a good translation from a television show to a movie, because it had really nothing to do with a television show other than the fact that they were remaking it. Well, folks, we've reached the end, and Josh and I wanted to try a whole new game for the end all. We call it ABCs.

Now, the way this game works, we're going to bounce back and forth with words, and the one that screws up in the alphabet gets to close off the show. And the first subject that we're doing here, we're going to do ABC movies. You know, titles. You know, titles and see how far we can go, and the one that screws up first closes off the show.

So, I'll start. Okay. Always. Battle gem.

Cat in the Hat. Downhill's Go. Ernest Goes to Camp. Pretty Godfinger.

Ghostbusters. Hot Shots. Innocent Blood. Double Jack Flash.

Killer Clowns of Matters State. Loan's Run. My Girl. New York Man.

Yes, I went Olsen Twins. Oh, God. Al on a limb. Picture perfect.

Quigley Down Under. Brother or Dots. Superman. Dun on the least.

Understage. Oh, crap. I don't got to tap him. Seriously, you're tapping on B?

Yeah. Oh, for fuck's sake. I don't understand you're tapping on S. B for Vendetta.

I don't remember what we called Vendetta. No, it's called B for Vendetta, you dumb shit. Ah, motherfucker. Well, I guess that's it.

Yeah. I love the game. Yeah, yeah. I like it, too.

It's one that I can actually fucking win for once. Well, on that note. Yes. We'll see you on the next episode.

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