OB324: No Approach Means No ODP

Episode 324 Show Notes    Topic of the show: On this week's show, AG and RH discuss the risks associated with departing from a non towered airport without a published instrument approach procedure.  What should every pilot understand about the departure?  How will they maintain terrain and obstruction clearance?  Can ATC provide them with an IFR clearance if they depart VFR but are below the minimum vectoring altitude?  We discuss this complex issue and many more of your aviation questions and feedback.  You don't want to miss this episode.   Timely Feedback:     1. The TERPS Elf sends feedback about feedback he already sent and we forgot about. Also sent a link to another related conversation:  https://stuckmicavcast.com/ifr/smac287-beyond-the-ifr-checkride-part-2/  2. Patron PD shares a technique on cold call procedures  3. Patron SG talk about NorCal flight following call ups  4. Patron AF asks about AI, German controllers and long feedback.  Feedback  1. Patron DW provides a DIYers timeline.   2. Patron SG shares a great technique for airborne IFR cancellation and discusses circling minimums.  3. Patron HTB expresses dismay over ILS critical area disruptions.  4. Patron MTW asks about AI in ATC.  5. Patron BD provides more insight into Angel Flight flying.    Mentioned on the show: Terps Elf response to our missed approach question on OB136 (8/3/2020), starting at about 52:28 where we discuss his response: https://opposingbases.libsyn.com/ob136-terps-elf-on-a-bravo-shelf    Angel Flight West: https://angelflightwest.org/    Have a great week and thanks for listening!  Visit our website at OpposingBases.com You can support our show using Patreon or visiting our support page on the website.  Keep the feedback coming, it drives the show! Don't be shy, use the "Send Audio to AG and RH" button on the website and record an audio message. Or you can send us comments or questions to [email protected].  Music bumpers by audionautix.com.  Third party audio provided by liveatc.net.  Friends of the show and maker of bags to protect your ATC headset from dust and germs: ATCSaks.com. Keep the gunk and funk away from your most valuable pilot gear: https://pilotsaks.com/. Legal Notice The views and opinions expressed on Opposing Bases Air Traffic Talk are for entertainment purposes only and do not represent the views, opinions, or official positions of the FAA, Penguin Airlines, or the United States Army.  Episodes shall not be recorded or transcribed without express written consent. For official guidance on laws, rules, and regulations, consult an aviation attorney or certified flight instructor.