October 11, 2019

(00:00-37:15): Jenna Perrine joins Ian to talk about mental health and lament as a christian. She is in a battle with ending the stigma of mental health and working to make it a norm in the church to talk about. Jenna goes into her life in Northern Ireland and how her desire to lament was stifled and not welcome. She also offers a step-by-step lamenting source on her website here: https://www.jennaperrine.com/. (37:15-1:14:57): Jason Feffer from The Practice at Willow joins Ian for the second half of the show. He touches on his ministry and aim to “stop doing discipleship, and start being disciples”. He briefly discusses the importance of maintaining a Christ-like manner in the church (i.e. teaching). He also talks about God’s presence in the midst of the highest highs, and lowest lows. He loves us all the same and will always. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.