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EPISODE · Mar 19, 2026 · 41 MIN

OFF THE RAILS: Rand Paul beef with Markwayne Mullin adds surreal layer to bizarre hearing

from The Briefing with Jen Psaki · host Jen Psaki, Senator Mark Kally, Rep. Maxwell Frost, Senator Mark Warner

Jen Psaki reports on the confirmation hearing for Donald Trump's pick to replace Kristi Noem to lead the Department of Homeland Security, Markwayne Mullin. Mullin is already a dubious choice to lead DHS, but a long-running feud between Mullin and committee chair, Rand Paul added a whole new dimension to why he might not be a good choice. Jen Psaki reports on director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard's testimony at the Senate Intelligence Committee's worldwide threats hearing, Gabbard was careful not to say anything that would contradict statements made by Donald Trump on his war against Iran, even when directly confronted with her own statements, obvious facts, or the responsibilities of her job. Senator Mark Kelly discusses the stakes of Donald Trump staffing important national security positions with unqualified sycophants. "She's a liar!" Rep. Maxwell Frost talks with Jen Psaki about what happened behind closed doors at a House Oversight Committee meeting with Donald Trump's attorney general, Pam Bondi, about arranging a hearing, under oath, about the Justice Department's handling of the Epstein documents.  Senator Mark Warner discusses his concerns about the safety of upcoming elections. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Jen Psaki reports on the confirmation hearing for Donald Trump's pick to replace Kristi Noem to lead the Department of Homeland Security, Markwayne Mullin. Mullin is already a dubious choice to lead DHS, but a long-running feud between Mullin and committee chair, Rand Paul added a whole new dimension to why he might not be a good choice.

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