You're listening to the Wisps wasatch in wasatch investigative studies wasatch investigative studies a paranormal science show which apparently is yet another acronym for a supernatural hour of what why are you doing this to me man CBD that's fantastic hey everybody welcome to the wish show the moistest podcast on pod bash network moist moist for all you moist hitters out there it just means wet like moist cake like a more people's like a word folks hey I'm offended because I'm a care bear and moist hurts my fill bads get a life I'll get a safe you think was gross get your mind out of the gutter I have your host castle I just put it there wasn't but with me as always we've got Tim a a.k.a. beaker what's happening and we've got peaches a k or brandy a.k.a. peaches hello alone and we that's pretty much it right cork it we actually released the show on time but our normal recording day is actually Easter and we were gonna have even less people to record on Easter so not so it would have been three of us I thought peaches that you could make it no cuz I'll be eating disgusting peeps with my children you know there's a new flavor peeps out it's a sour cherry I want to find red velvet peeps actually I don't really like peeps but people said if you put them out to drive us before you eat them it makes them taste better I don't know if it's amazing the textures what makes it right people or you can take less things there's two things you can do with peeps one throw in the garbage because that's really long with candy corn or two throw those bad boys in the microwave and watch them blow up you know what I'm gonna fire I feel a moral obligation to come to the defensive candy corn because candy corn are delicious yeah that's disgusting along with black licorice this time from the guy that's ringing diapepepsy black licorice is also fantastic it's wrong with your taste buds like good and pointy's or those red wine right family packs now yes delightful only the red ones are good the good thing we came into your life to save you from the terrible snack choices that you've made you need to cut out your tongue and put it in anyone the tongue transplant so tonight we are here to talk about go stuff yes that's what we do sometimes we plan other times we just do it tonight's gonna be kind of a wing it show kind of a kind of wing it we have wings and we have wings and we just it brings wings and she skirts and girls got the because she brought cheese curbs for me to take out girls cookies and KFC and I can feel my blood moving at this point the girls got cookies totally my fault because I could drop those off our house yesterday but I started to bring them to your house and give it to her today instead that's like a one minute red mannez balls I can I can feel my blood move I could mean them poutine cheese kids but I didn't that was an awesome what kind of cheese bird poutine like Vladimir poutine no that's Putin um Putin on the writs poutine I'm not sure that's better but what is clearly you've never been a french fries and smother them with gravy and cheese curbs so they would just be cheese curbs smother than gravy what kind of gravy we talking KFC gravy would be moist yes our givies moist isn't it she's good at a moist begin with moist moist moist like cringing voice like we're like we're like we're like we're like we're like we're showing them I cuz we're doing that alica's gonna be cringing too the offense that's whole episode none of all be paranormal we're just gonna find the shit out of everybody's in ten minutes and you're just gonna call it offensive that's gonna be the name of the show so let's talk business first off business did we talk about for a bugless on our last podcast yes we did so there are still a few tickets as of this podcast left for family tree you know in this air is it will actually probably be the week of that investigation it will be and so there may not be tickets left so if there are great I haven't actually used all our marketing tools yet cuz we sell out every time once we you know we can have for the first years so anyway if you don't have tickets you want to go shame on you shame on you go well it'll be fun that there's actually pretty decent that being said Tim and I had a discussion yesterday and we got some insight from Newman the Utah medium about some changes that venue and said that the activity for us is probably gonna be pretty good let's talk about that part of it Tim well apparently the spirits at the family tree like it when wisps goes there they're pretty fun to us they're not from what I was told they don't necessarily care too much for some of the other teams because we've taken this approach recently where we go in and focus more on the positive spirits and try to ignore the negative and it seems like you still get people that want to either don't know what they're doing or they'll focus on the negative and you have a completely different experience like we still have tons of activity on our investigations but we've had less problems with like people being jumped into or people getting scratched we've had a lot more like a lot more better words a lot more better it has been a lot more better it has been much better you know I think we talked about this a couple episodes ago and we can't control activity at any particular venue but we've kind of figured out the recipe for avoiding really negative ugly activity let's leave lurch at home we love you lurch at home i'm investigating with that guy no he doesn't best he just is really busy with school so we don't get invested in this week or i just forced him over time at work so i don't get invested in myself um so basically we found that the more you go in and taunt and kind of try and rile stuff up you rile stuff up you're gonna get what you ask for if you're in there provoking and and trying to entice the negative that's what you're gonna get if you go in there to bring a positive feeling a positive attitude atmosphere you know talk to positive human spirits that's what you're gonna get and we've actually had i've noticed that family treaty activity that we've gotten a last few investigations we've done that we've more or less i wouldn't say we've ignored lucy but she's become definitely a very back burner feature at family treaty she gets a little pessie because we don't talk to as much as we used to um back last investigation i think maybe spent the last 15 minutes of the entire night downstairs talking to her brother and that we ignored her the whole her and jj and all their little minions that they tried to send after us but we had a great investigation we we basically we saw a full figure apparition um you had a bunch of stuff going over in your side of the leg that you came yeah um we had some k2 activity we had some dowsing rod activity um i do remember i was able to tell that there's a new spirit that was there and well i thought it was awesome because i didn't tell anybody where it was or where i thought it was and i sent Ellen to the room and she was actually able to pinpoint exactly where the spirit was to which was kind of cool for me it's always fun to see new investigators being able to uh find things on their own so we have that investigation coming up again april 14th is the day um as always we try and keep the numbers right where we want for the venue size we don't want to overstat or not overstaff or book a venue um again dinner is provided uh family tree is one of our more expensive venues that we go to but that's because basically the venue controls the prices and so we kind of vary our prices based on the venue price um so go buy your tickets for that if you haven't already it should be it should be a good time um so we were gonna talk more about uh i guess first let's touch on our sponsors we have two sponsors for this particular show first off is gonna be advanced paranormal services at advanced paranormal.com we'll talk more on that in detail middle of april when that site actually launches they are associated with us and they are the ones who are putting on these ghost hunts now but we are staffing those ghost hunts so advanced paranormal services and there should be a ghost hunt come up just about every month i believe we got benson grissmill sounds like it's on tap for may yes um we're going to see about some other venues that they may have coming up and tim do you want to talk about our other sponsor? yeah our other sponsor is the you can find her on facebook at healer divine her name is cathyla feet you can also find her cathyla feet.com which would be cathy lafitte.com cathyla feet.com what she does there's two different services that she offers your first one is going to be it's a heart-based couple's workshop where she does a hands-on couple workshop designed to bring connection from higher chakras up thus creating stronger bonds to the art of msa's and energetic awareness so basically what she does with that one is she'll teach couples to kind of how how to like massage each other and kind of get a closer spiritual connection to each other the other service that one goes for $111 per couple the other service that she offers and this is the one that i did it's called quantum healing hypnosis technique the description for that one is access past lives and your higher self to gain understanding two patterns that are showing up in your life now that are keeping you from moving forward experience healings from physical and emotional pain as you channel your higher self and receive the answers to why you're experiencing these pains and why they were created receive instantaneous relief having this experience literally will change your life the price for that one is $222 i've been told that other people that provide the service charge upwards of $500 to $600 the reason why she went with this price of $222 is because that's a symbol for change and her thing is is she wants to do all this in one session she doesn't she doesn't necessarily want repeats unless you feel like it's something absolutely necessary for you to do my session we started at 11 in the morning and ran until about six in the afternoon so it was about seven hours session so you try to knock i mean you plan for the whole day make sure you don't have anything going on but it started out with a kind of like a spiritual guidance session where we kind of talked a little bit about like things are going on in my life things that i'm looking to change or what you know i'm wanting to get out of the session and then she preferred to if you come beforehand with questions that you want to ask yourself because basically what you're doing is you're doing a form of guided meditation or hypnosis depending on what you want to call it where you're accessing your higher self or your subconscious self or depending on who you're talking to you're basically talking to spirit or the holocaust or whoever you're talking to they're coming through and answering your questions for you and we spent some time going over the questions that i wanted to ask and then we got into the actual hypnosis or the meditation session which for me lasted an entire two hours and we covered a lot we answered all my questions that i had and during this session she does once she gets you into that meditative state or under hypnosis or whatever you want to refer to it as she starts recording and she records your entire session and she will send it to you at the end of your session so and she encourages you to go back and listen to it so you might there might be things that you said that you don't remember saying while you were having the session or you might be that under that you don't hear anything at all i remember most of what i said i have gone back and listen to a little bit of it not all of it but there is a there's one particular clip that will probably tack on at the end of this episode or somewhere in between but there's an episode or part where i talked about the importance of crystals and energy and how everything is connected let's talk about it just a little bit um well actually since you've done this walk us through the whole process from the time you showed up at 11 a.m until you walked out the door that was at six o'clock yeah i was close to six o'clock yeah walk us through the process so like i said when we got there it started with uh we went back into her healing room or meditation meditation room and uh just sat on the couch on the futon and we just got talking about you know different things in my life and um things that you know i wish might have been different or things i don't quite understand why things are happening to me or kind of talked about things like how i want my life to go this this particular part of that session the spiritual guidance took um i want to say like three hours because we just talked literally for like three hours before we even got into writing down my questions but there's one point i remember she put me into a meditative state where um we were able to pinpoint an area in my past where uh there was something that was kind of dragging me down and still like haunting me today and we were able to go back to that point and correct that and it was weird because like i don't believe in the whole time travel thing or being able to do stuff like that but once we were finished with that i did notice a difference in just kind of my my attitude and it might have just been in the moment they could have been her and me actually going through and fixing that problem i don't know i just know i have a little bit different outlook what are you laughing at?
Peaches still have to get something and kind of weirded him out she had a big grin on her face when she stood up um because she just like farted and walked away she's like best in the ass see you later thanks for the cookies that's been the best part of the thing i just had is something you never need girls got cookies uh they were moist they are very moist they're the tag lines mean the better the best ones ever anyways um yeah we we kind of just talked about different things that are going on my life and i'm not going to go into details because like there was like a three-hour conversation and then i think it was a bit of life summed up in three hours yeah there's more to the whole thing so the whole session was like two hours long the the actual meditation session then like i said she normally she she encourages you to have your questions ready beforehand when you get there i was a slacker into not but we did go through and we figured out the questions that i wanted to ask and that's when we started the meditation session was that bothering you? Pete just peels to crop of beakers headphones while he was talking my headphones no longer say beaker how will i know which ones are mine? you need to make a new label look at it okay my bad um when we actually got to the hypnosis session or the meditation session uh she had me lay down on the massage table that she has covers up with like you know put some pillows underneath your back and head one up so you're as comfortable as possible and then she starts talking doing her thing to kind of get you under once it's once you're in that meditative state or hypnosis state uh then she starts i don't remember exactly how she didn't start the questions right away it started with i just remember describing myself as an older looking man with a long white beard basically like you know gammalf when he's white the white wizard um similar to that i just wanted this long white robe i was able to describe that the um robe was tight closed with just a brown rope and i was walking uh i believe i was walking barefoot around stonge and i remember at one point like i sat down and i could see my soul fly out of my body so my body's still sitting there and i can see myself like up above like in a bird form kind of watching myself and i remember like a storm rolling in and it started raining and i just was kind of sitting there like enjoying the rain which is funny because like i've recently found out that the element that i connect to the most right now is water and to see that like um happening where i'm just kind of enjoying the rain to me just kind of made sense and then all of a sudden uh well i remember she asking why was it that the song is raining men come into your mind that might have how much else needed to take no no i don't do drugs um and then here comes a rain doo doo doo doo doo sorry no the that's the rain's in africa that song um but i remember then i was kind of like shifted and i was now at well first i was she asked why it's not hinged and i said well that's where all the energy comes from or i said it was the most peaceful place on earth which i've never actually been to stonge so i wouldn't know that from personal experience but i mean i would love to go there someday and find out for sure but then i remember after that i was at easter island and i still like the same but this time i was wearing like a big like antler um kind of like what a druid would wear like a kind of an alert hat yes yeah and i remember just watching myself go up to all the different like statues at easter island and just kind of like laying on them and filling the vibration and just like absorbing all the energy that's coming off of these statues and then and then we got into my first past life where i was a blacksmith and interestingly enough during this life at one point i also knew peaches she was the daughter of a lord that i did work for and i was able to describe kind of like some of the stuff that happened in that life like exactly how my shop looked and like how i did work and stuff like that and what i did you know like what i made when i enjoyed making the most and i remember saying that the thing i liked making the most was uh battleaxes because they're not as easy as a sword they're more complicated you can put more design and they're more it takes more creation or more imagination to make an axe than a sword is what i remember saying but then we talked a little bit about my past life and then we moved on to um my current life and we're able to talk about different things that like you know from battleaxes to yogurt yeah no well things about like my my previous relationship with my exfiancé and what the purpose of that relationship was and then just kind of things about like the direction my life is going in now and no yogurt is not in my future it's gonna be something that's probably not gonna be around for the next within like a year two um just because i'm looking into other avenues and i'm trying to uh start my own business basically male prostitution you find the chip and delves or in the way house district you find me behind the rio grand meet packing district tiam and rest up near you there's a track station to stop the street here that probably works sorry tiam plan um i do remember talking about what my purpose in life is and uh what i had said was it was um basically and i think this is interesting because it's not something i currently do but i am kind of studying on this it's uh i remember saying it was basically i remember seeing myself standing in front of a crowd and like teaching people more than like what i do here on the podcast but it was it was something along the like spiritual guidance and i remember saying something like uh my purpose is to bring hope to people where there currently isn't any help and i do remember saying that part of what i was supposed to be doing involved peaches here and i said and then again this is all like while you're you're under the in this meditative state so um some of the stuff that i was saying i don't even know where i was getting the information or why i was saying it uh it's stuff i've never even put in thought into but i do remember saying that if peaches and i develop our gifts the correct way and work together that her and i could literally make a change in this world and i don't know how you feel about that but this is the first thing she's hearing it yeah that's kind of weird like this is that this is the stuff is like i've never put any thought into this it just kind of came up during the session that's what happens when you're on LSD well it was a fun experience if that's what i was doing um here tim look this dope let's talk but we did talk about we did talk about uh or i mentioned the uh the energy how crystals and everything on earth gets their energy from stonehenge and easter island which makes me curious uh to whether or not this is actually true because i would love to visit these places and see what the energy in those places are like because i've never been there and despite the all the stuff that i was saying that like i said i've never researched i've never put any thought into the fact that i'm saying stuff makes me kind of curious on to whether or not what i was saying is legitimate or not what's interesting is uh tim let me listen to a little bit of this audio and uh if he's okay that i'm going to tack it on the end of this podcast yeah we may go a little short on this part of the podcast and we'll pack the session on the how much do you want me to put on there part of it the whole thing no it's a two-hour session i don't think it was there there's stuff that's in there that's just for me okay we'll we'll trim it down and we'll put uh we'll go through it and find some stuff that uh i feel comfortable people listening to the part of the crystals and the energy and all that that's definitely something i felt right from the get go that people need to hear so yeah we'll trim it down put it on there but it's interesting because you can hear tim's voice i mean it's tim but it also is not tim but it's tim and i know that makes no sense you know one other point that we could put on there and i thought this was funny we'll have to find it but my subconscious self or my higher self i like to say it's kind of a smart ass and according to Newman my subconscious self doesn't want me to say that anywhere but but there's one point where i asked about uh why am i always putting these leadership roles why was i chosen to be a leader things why do people look to me for guidance and i've been told by caden and a couple of the mediums at my title in the paranormal world at the paranormal bodyguard and i asked about that and the answer i was given was you weren't chosen to do these things that you chose to do it you volunteered this is something you wanted to do and i remember when the lady asked um or Kathy asked yeah is there anything else you want to tell tim on this subject my response instantly was like yes stop asking about it i told the last i'm gonna have to get that no no you took it out right out okay um i mean it was definitely the whole thing was definitely need experience and i i there's so many different types of uh like guided meditation out there and they're not all for everybody but this is one where if you'll know if you're ready for this and if this is something you want to i don't recommend everybody just go throw two hundred twenty two dollars and someone to go do this session it has to be something that i want you to seriously consider and think about whether or not this is something that you actually want to do um or if this is a person you want to do it's like said you might have a better experience with a different medium or a gifted person but my thing is like um i've been kind of going through and kind of uh testing more or less different mediums and their abilities and what they can do and the ones that i'm coming back and talking to you on the show are the ones that i personally fill are people that i can trust and i wouldn't recommend anybody that i don't wouldn't go to myself that i don't trust myself so there's people i have worked with and that we've worked with and had readings and stuff done with that uh i would not recommend anybody but Kathy is definitely one of those people uh Michelle Newman if you're not looking to spend two hundred twenty dollars two two hundred twenty two dollars if you want to spend a little bit less i definitely recommend doing a guided meditation session with Michelle Newman well and it's interesting because we've had uh you and i in particular Tim have uh right he's touching my weenas yeah i can see that no don't touch me there that is what no um that's not what she's really touching she's touching this that's the weenas that's the part on your well if you don't know weenas is looking up and spell it correctly please are you know probably a bit just if you don't want to see um but you and i Tim have recorded segments with some mediums that we never even aired just because we were not comfortable with no that the one cast a spell on me yeah it was really interesting we were actually we're doing segments for the paranormal expo when we interviewed all those guests and one when we got them talking to her she was very strange plus her heart um and when we got them talking toward the atmosphere in the studio was so dark well i just remember shooting you that look i was just like cut this off like in the call like i was just done and as soon as we hung up with her i'm just like i need a blessing or something she did something not good yeah we actually had to take a 20 minutes in cleanse the studio and undo what had been done um but it was interesting right after because we talked to Nick a man who's a raking master and while talking to him on our show the atmosphere of the room like completely changed um he's definitely another person that i'm gonna look into and and uh probably send someone to have his services done um because i'm just interested i've never had rakey done i'm kind of interested in what it's like but like i said i kind of test people out with their gifts and their abilities and and with what they do uh the kind of one thing for me is just kind of to find more out about myself and kind of see where i'm going in life but the other thing is like i said it's two part because i come back if i if i approve of what you guys do or if i think it's something we'll do them it that i would want other people to experience and i come back and talk about it on the show well i was gonna say which is interesting because i'm sure this applies to you who else him but i had kind of a very narrow view of all of this stuff when i first got involved in paranormal you know very skeptical of any of this stuff and the longer i've gone on the more people i've met and the more i've experienced the more open-minded i've become as far as what is possible out there um i remember when i had my cleansing from newman uh at the paranormal expo um actually i think it was a metaphysical expo yeah um but i felt like a million bucks after talking to him i mean i felt like i was walking on a cloud um and so there it is walking on sunshine whoa sorry i might be worse than i see the word moist um i'm just gonna throw it into substance like leave it or not uh i'm walking on air um the alamite caniro such sweet spirits you guys are right faces it's like you guys are effing crazy i don't know why you're doing this crap so really and people who we've recommended on the show are people who we would trust and use to uh and for ourselves kids that's why no no squish i just poked her boob i saw that um we just went our rated uh no we didn't show though that's true we didn't show it but we described it which is just as bad um no but people who we've had on the show are people who we would use and trust i mean there's been a few when we've done the whole interview 10 000 people for an expo some of those rich random people were grabbing but people who we've actually featured on the show are people that we trust and would you know and we've told you on the show we'd work with them those are people who Kathy's actually been on the show before that's actually how we met her is uh when we were helping promote the metaphysical paranormal expos last year and had lined up with her to be one of our guests and i still remember the first thing she said when we started talking she's like i was sent her to this earth to do this and i just thought it was interesting but we can definitely if you want to go back and listen to her uh her segment you can and we might eventually try to get her on the show again in the future it's been fascinating though because we've talked with a lot of these people and you've been there we've kind of had a little quick mini readings over the you know over the podcast and some of them you know i've watched people read Tim and i just kind of sit back and chuckle because i've known Tim now for a few years and uh it's funny how someone who's never met Tim can do this reading and describe Tim's personality to a T and i just don't want to hear jekyllin but on the flip side i know that i've had readings on the podcast where Tim was just laughing his butt off because uh the person has pegged me to a T and they didn't know me five minutes prior to uh well i remember the first time i met elle and he sat her down and looked at me and gave him a reading i was like i don't know how to do that but i do remember uh the one guy coming through and i remember him saying it's about damn time and you both looked at me confused and i said like i'm not sure who this is it's someone that you used to date or used to be married to or something like that but he says it's about damn time she found someone that will take care of her the way she's supposed to be that's the one thing i remember from that reading to clarify with somebody that she had dated not some not a dude i had not someone capital of the guy just to clarify it was a guy that she did before um but don't contact me for readings because i'm not that good at it and yeah you and you and kina both grinder like old girls uh that's because that's because we knew before you did that you guys were gonna get married yeah i'm sitting we're sitting there in the investigation there's like coconut in the corner all night long so um why we've filled 30 minutes pages yes hi how are you say something she's not so quiet and yeah i've been just it's so stuff i already know about so um yeah we're talking about his experience not mine that's true and this is probably a short episode just because we wanted to make sure that we got an episode in before we don't we don't want to make you guys wait well this will be the Wednesday after Easter but we don't want to make you guys wait like almost an entire month to have an episode because we did promise that we will be every other week and we're sticking to that consistency to the best of our ability i can't do it either there won't be like some medical emergency where i have a stroke or Tim has a stroke or well it's more likely i'll have a stroke i'm the fat one yeah right he's sizing me up you see this shit here you are fed yeah i guess you got me there when i say p p p he just brought me girls got cookies and cheesecured so uh i'm swiftly gating around you'll just get counseling in or that oh i don't wish it on you but seriously just a cancer again she's making like weird little food who signs in the air at me all right well do you guys want to wrap up to this short one uh we'll pack some stuff on the end and we'll call it good it was a clique yeah uh i'm gonna cut some of this out so that's fine unless you think of something else talk about let's talk about moist moist red cake let's talk about zombie jesus all right well with that i think we will call it an episode and piece of butterflies actually you know what hold on just pause it all right so yeah let's pause it for a minute all right so now we've talked about meditation for three whole episodes let's switch gears well first off before we totally leave meditation behind i hope that we didn't put you guys asleep last three three episodes i am going to go have a good meditation session with michelle and see what comes out so i'll talk about that uh maybe next episode if i can get it done by then i should be able to i'm kind of curious i kind of want to go back and have another session done so let's kind of change gears for just a minute um let's talk venues let's go back to let's go back to hot stuff so we've kind of got a metaphysical for the last several episodes um and our poor luster's part like we just want to hear about ghosts and demons and melting faces um let's go get make all that happen i can get a demon to all melted face let's do it matches done i got torqued in the truck it's in new listener contest we are going to curse an object and whoever wins our contest oh by the way in case you guys don't fall on facebook uh we did get the results from lurch's poll on whether he should sell his mini ouija board on ebay or burn of the fire it was a uh shame on people that wanted him to sell it on ebay first off but uh i believe it was about 66 percent said burn of the fire the other 33 33 33 percent of people apparently want harm done to others um my kind of people no so what was the percentages again i i think it was like 66 and 33 so i'm just so like 666 and yeah exactly burn with fire 666 so we'll be burning lurch's we deboard of fire so um we are doing public hunts and by well not we advanced parental services is doing public hunts that we are staffing but we have got a lot of input on those particular hunts um so we come on here from you guys what venues you guys would like to see um obviously we've done four dougos quite a bit it's an easy venue for us to get into um and in all honesty we'll be back there probably more than a few times probably same with family tree that one did you foresee them too same with benson gris mill um some of the other ones that we've we've done this in the past um but it hasn't been huge we haven't done a lot we're looking into uh fear factory fear factory um i'm gonna try and see if i can uh arrange something with a silent 49 they have kind of an interesting price structure uh which makes it difficult to conduct a decent public hunt there um but we're gonna see what we can work but i'm curious to see and we're gonna try to get into salt there as well i want some responses from you guys you can send us emails facebook messages um just post on our page where would you guys like to go or where do you have an in at um love the hunt springs and let's let's play fantasy investigation here for just a minute um i roll my d6 and my clothes stay on what? fantasy investigation i am not a nerd i have no idea what you're talking about i haven't rolled my character yet tim passed me that d20 that pen and paper i don't have that sorry you lose so fantasy investigations let's talk for a minute if and let's throw a sense of realism in here well peaches and i are actually going to a very haunted location in august we're excited is the location that we've been to before?
no this is actually in california we're spending a couple days at disneyland and then we will be driving up to san hose to visit the winchister mystery house nice so let's talk local though if we could if you could investigate one place locally that you haven't been well how low goes local just the state of utah i'm gonna say state of utah tim where would it be at why? ucepa uh huh ucepa what's that so in the late 1800s early 1900s there was a pollination town that was in between twill and solik city because people back then were racist and didn't want these people living in the same city with them but these people had moved here from like hawaii and other countries yep and these internment camps no that's doe paz you said it was an actual city it was just uh they didn't want them living in solik with them but these people wanted to come here to be closer to the elia's church oh um so they had their own little thriving city they had their own like grocery store and mel plus office and all this it was a great thriving city that was around for about 20 30 or something like that and when they finally built a temple in hawaii basically everyone just packed up and went home screw you racist bastard we're going back and yeah unfortunately back in back in the early 1900s uh that wasn't issue not so much now but um when they they built the the temples in hawaii and over the the pollination islands uh everyone they just packed up and left so they left this ghost town here in solik and i've heard about it and i've heard that there's some uh some positive energy out there and there's still some spirits and whatnot and it's one that i've uh been wanting to look into last year so how about you peaches and i know haunted location for you is kind of an interesting thing because you can actually see here the spirits so for you it's like going to the local Walmart all day every day um hopefully i'm saying this correctly um is called salina uh-huh okay so there's supposed to be like a Nazi German internment camp type thing that's out that way yeah do we go is that what told pass i think that was different i think told passes out when there was no no it's told pass down there's a line i don't know i just i saw it while we were at uh fort Douglas they had a little book on the whole salina thing so i kind of of flipped through it and it looks kind of interesting so i think if i had one i may have talked about this in the past but there's a it's an old school down in pace and down in Utah county um called petit neat that's a huge gigantic sandstone edifice um and it was always interesting to me because one of the places that interested me in ghost hunting was a kid because i didn't realize it as a kid but i could feel the spirit energy i didn't know what it was but i remember being like in first and second grade and using my air quotations ghost hunting uh with my great school friends around the school because the school is well over 100 years old at this point um then we used to think that the indian chief the school is named after haunted the place uh and i always had an interest in ghost hunting there but i remember that one day i took peaches on a tour of pacing um and we such a lovely city she she said it was a if you live in pace and that place is haunted as hell um it's just Utah county in general it's wrong it's interesting because i was having her check out a place near this uh old school um so we parked in front of the school to check out a house that was across the street and uh as you remember peaches got out of the car and looks over at this house and just has this look on her face like what the crap looking what's going on it's not that it's a house over there but she said that the schoolyard was just teething with spirits so there was children's spirits playing on the playground there's a built spirits peeking out the windows it was just chuck full of spirits um so it's kind of on my list of places i like to investigate however uh and i don't know i've discussed this with you too there may be a possibility that we might be going there in the near future um so there's been some management changes um and i might have an endless of local politicians good jump and so there may be a way that we can get into and investigate that venue um so that may be something on our future public comes list yeah you get to we want to i guess not relive i guess i should say finally get to live your childhood dream i'm investigating my grade school um so yeah that's kind of my places to go list uh but it should be fun we've got a lot of stuff coming up with these uh public investigations that are uh on tap to start happening every month so far we're uh two for two uh soon to be three for three uh we didn't do one in February did we not do it in February no January we skip February because of anywhere we were looking into we decided it wasn't uh a good enough place for a public event it's better for a small private event oh yes yes you're right um i was wrong on that the topaz is in delta and salina is where the german p o w massacre happened there we go after after reading that yes i would definitely love to visit that as well i have a weird odd because i think that was i could be wrong but isn't that where the uh the guy was upset because he didn't actually gonna kill any German so he slaughtered all the POWs down there or something like that i don't i don't i don't want to detail but it just seems really awesome i have this weird fixation with german's and the holocaust and that whole thing just because it's in my roots so i don't know it just seems awesome i'd love to go to osu um another interesting area down around that way is the old utah state house when the state capital used to be in philmore um i don't know if you guys meant the old uh yes tenants in the philmore beaver area i just feel more than to see tim more they're like you try not to laugh that's a utah joke two cities right next to each other one named philmore one named beaver philmore beaver yeah it's down in that philmore beaver area uh but it's the old utah state house the state uh the capital utah didn't used to be in sullix city used to be in philmore utah and there's an old old old uh basically the capital building uh back when it was a territory and it's been converted to museum and i actually went there last summer uh about this time last year i went down there and just to kind of walk through and it definitely has a vibe uh which would be a good spot to investigate it's a good vibrations and uh some good there were some vibrations that was it there were some vibes some vibes you know the fine interesting is that we all live here in utah that has one of the places that supposedly the most haunted as far as paranormal goes and the most active as far as ufo activity goes and none of us mentioned this on our list and that's skilwalker ranch you know well i don't even already started a skilwalker ranch uh there's also that nunnery up in logan i have heard of the nunnery um that sounds cool and i don't know how easy or difficult to skip there i know some groups have talked about it um skilwalker ranch is another one that first groups talked about it but i've also heard that the owners are really protective about keeping people off of it um i actually had a friend who has family who has a ranch near skilwalker ranch and they said they have crazy stuff going on inside their cabin all the time and up their their ranch just things moving around um just kind of off the charts activity uh i know there's a lot of great places here in the state to go investigate uh the heart thing is and i think our listeners understand this is that the paranormal field has become so saturated over the years with so many teams with all the tv shows out there that a lot of places that we used to have access to have just gotten tired of uh some of these kind of half-ass groups coming in and just screwing things up and kind of rooting it for everybody i mean really you kind of see it in every aspect of humanity kill them all where there's something really awesome and just some wing nooks come in and they leave their trash or they do whatever and the owners of these places just say you know what enough's enough and they just ban everybody from coming in investigating or fishing or whatever it is um so it's too bad but anyone yeah well i think we are going to call that a show unless you guys got something else you know what else would be awesome place to go where the mason example is that yeah oh yeah there's a lot of all sorts of energy coming off of that building it's actually on one of the stops on the christmas tour that we did at the littler's grimbills tour plus year and they have an open house once a year or they invite the public to come in there do like a you know on a little o investigation they had like a they had like a movie night uh last october i believe it was other by people in watch like a scary movie oh interesting that would be another place that i would love to go yeah there's that's a fun thing about vesting is there's a lot of places that have a lot of energy that you wouldn't even think of and i think you guys have run into this as well where you talk to somebody and you know you say we have this place did someone get murdered it's a make-up it's just said there doesn't have to be a thing um really any building even new buildings are haunted all buildings are definitely haunted well places without buildings are haunted go so need a home to and order to haunt something right exactly as as uh jimmy lindarlin would put it it's not the building was haunted it's the land yeah that's what i like about her she's so awesome yeah and ultimately if i spare ones to hang out somewhere it's gonna hang out somewhere there's really no rhyme reason there doesn't have to be a terrible tragedy there's that up to chances yeah a little bit but then you're gonna get all that crazy negative but usually when if it's tragedy or murder it's really dark and negative crap but uh i can honestly say that in our investigations that we've done over the years um how many houses would you say we've been to that have zero anything whatsoever in them beaches maybe one or two i could think of one uh i don't know if you think of a second time i saw two fingers over there but i know there's one we went to where there's nothing and even then they had had some activity prior to but there's nothing there when we got there yeah uh but there's some evidence that there'd been like a pastor or something like that it's crazy anyway that will be our show we are going to put some uh of tim session on the end of this episode um if you're interested in hearing tim talk about stonehenge stick around otherwise we will catch you guys in two weeks go buy your tickets go visit eventspervimal.com visit he'll be fine on face like divine on facebook or catholic feed.com and peace out butterflies doodlewump so energy manipulation is that the reason why he chooses to travel to like stonehenge and then he tries where he had all that rich energy power from okay so when he does is um when he works with energy and he manipulates the energy uh can you give him more information about how he's supposed to show up with that or is it necessary to give him information at this time it's that's so the energy from your crystals comes from those places um they're everything the earth is connected so whether or not they've physically been in those places they still resonate really so chrystal doesn't have the necessarily come from that particular place but its energy can connect to it the earth is all connected everything's connected oh very interesting i didn't know this this is good information it's it's every people places thing everything is it's a we all have energy and including chrystal's rocks plants the entire earth and that's how we people don't realize it this is how we communicate it's more through our energy fields than through what we say or what we do everyone has capability of reading people's energy they just don't realize it and the earth like i said everything is connected so the stones even though they're you know not necessarily on the ground or you know in the earth still they were at one point and this is where they draw the power from and they don't it doesn't go away you know they don't have the capability of self-doubt or questioning they just are and so their energy is always with them at all times no matter the size is that correct yes what's it do they know a lot of people want to have like huge ginormous crystals and is it better to have a big one or a small one or does it matter this one here the size of this is small but hold this fill its power oh i do feel it that little chrystal oh how small it is wow it's probably one of the most powerful crystals oh my god it's so intense that so size holy wow size size doesn't matter what is that that is so intense that's multivite that's multivite i think i just his energy is activating my energy so i can actually feel more right now because i have multivite and it doesn't feel like that i think it i just got activated everything's this very the heavens the earth it's it's all connected thank you so how is it that he can best um help others who need him i mean we talked a little bit about already so just educating um so there's so many people that feel that what the work that we do is everyone wants to believe that everything needs to be done scientifically prove it to me like they're not willing to accept that just because you can't see it or hear it's not there right right it's it's to help bring that understanding to people so they don't live in the shadows it's it's not like a religious thing it's just to help people find their their spiritual self right i see a lot of people lacking in faith and faith is to know that in in the unseen to know that it's still there but faith is a double-edged sword um like he said people are lacking faith but then there's people that rely too much on faith oh yes and don't do any of their own works yes i've seen that too so it's it's trying to find the balance between the two it's like i've i've this has come up a lot lately for some reason it's the scripture that says faith that that works is dead um is you can't i mean hope you dreams are nice but you can't rely on them you have to act on them and there's so many people that just like well i hope this happens but they don't actually put anything the action to make it happen i mean you guys this is what i take is that you guys give inspiration ideas and visions for us to physically manifest it into the physical form but if we don't act on those guidance promptings inspired ideas and thoughts then you don't be miserable yeah it doesn't do anything at that point i mean the faith is that you guys are talking to us and showing us right and then we go ahead and run with it and physically manifest it we can show you the door you have to open it right makes sense that this is good for people to hear yes thank you for clarifying that because it puts the power back in an individual yes wonderful there was something we came up so how can you change the perception of that being wrong or making a mistake is a sign of weakness it's just it's a sign of growth you can't grow without making mistakes maybe just perfect all the time then what's the point right what's the point so these are wonderful opportunities aren't they yes mistakes they're blessings in disguise blessings they're like that blessings in disguise and from your perspective what is the energy on the planet are we going through a shift right now that's that's important there's a lot of talk about the shift or energy what do you what do you see from that from your perspective yeah the earth is it's not a repair state um it's it's not it's losing losing it's losing battle um people need to rely less on their greed and their money and do what's considered the right thing to do and realize that money is not everything and there's going to be people that will hold on to that and don't want to let it go but there'll be other people that will stand with them and help make that change do you have any closing message for Tim today before we close session be yourself it's an important to be you're listening to the Wisps was at your investigative studies for paranormal science their grown ass adults that like to sit in the dark and talk to each other but they all love their moms so that should account for something