Oliver Hartwich: NZ Initiative Executive Director on their report looking at the progress New Zealand has made since 1970

Questions are circling about how much progress New Zealand's actually made in the years since 1970.   An NZ Initiative report suggests it's a mixed bag, with genuine improvements that are largely going unseen alongside stubborn problems that refuse to budge.   On the positive side, fewer people are dying on the roads and life expectancy at birth has risen almost 11 years.   But on the other side, education and housing are lagging behind.  NZ Initiative executive director Oliver Hartwich told Mike Hosking the improvements they’ve tracked almost happen automatically – there are fewer road deaths because cars are getting safer and we’re living long because medicines are improving.   He says the issues we’re stagnating or falling behind on are the ones where it would demand bold reformers to actually improve the situation.  LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.