EPISODE · Jul 28, 2026 · 43 MIN
On Chuck Swindoll's Last Sermon, Grace, Regret, and the Four S's | Part 2 of a Conversation with Chuck Swindoll
from The Greg Laurie Show · host Greg Laurie
In part two of this conversation with Pastor Greg Laurie, Pastor Chuck Swindoll opens up about what he'd do differently across six decades of ministry—chief among them, saying yes sooner, affirming more, criticizing less, and bringing his wife Cynthia into full partnership years before he actually did. He names the four temptations every pastor faces and explains why the last one never stops requiring vigilance. Pastor Greg asks what text Chuck would preach if he had one sermon left, and the answer will surprise you. Along the way: memorized hymns, mentors from Dallas Seminary, the rise of antisemitism, and a tender word about caring for Cynthia through dementia. This conversation closes with Chuck's prayer over Pastor Greg's family and ministry. Subscribe for more conversations like this on The Greg Laurie Show. Timestamps00:33 Intro: one last sermon01:03 Preaching after losing his son02:38 Fearing for his other children04:03 Preaching to himself through grief05:35 Any regrets looking back?07:06 Chuck: say yes sooner, affirm more10:00 Nearly ruining his marriage with Cynthia14:50 Loneliness in ministry15:27 Four temptations: sloth, silver, self, sex22:30 The final sermon: grace24:35 Lightning round: food, movies, Lincoln29:38 The rise of antisemitism30:11 Hymns he sings while driving32:36 Sitting under giants at Dallas Seminary38:28 Cynthia's dementia and advice on marriage Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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