On Dwarkesh Patel's Second Interview With Ilya Sutskever

from Don't Worry About the Vase Podcast · host Askwho Casts AI

Podcast episode for On Dwarkesh Patel’s Second Interview With Ilya Sutskever.* 00:00 - Introduction* 01:47 - Table of Contents* 02:19 - Explaining Model Jaggedness* 03:58 - Emotions and value functions* 05:36 - What are we scaling?* 06:47 - Why humans generalize better than models* 08:10 - Straight-shooting superintelligence* 09:57 - SSI’s model will learn from deployment* 10:59 - Alignment* 20:03 - “We are squarely an age of research company”* 25:15 - Research taste* 27:57 - Bonus Coverage: Dwarkesh Patel on AI Progress These DaysThe Don’t Worry About the Vase Podcast is a listener-supported podcast. To receive new posts and support the cost of creation, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.https://open.substack.com/pub/thezvi/p/on-dwarkesh-patels-second-interview?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web Get full access to DWAtV Podcast at dwatvpodcast.substack.com/subscribe

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