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EPISODE · May 28, 2026 · 1H 10M

On Personal Power, Chaos, Archetypes and other Venus in Capricorn things with Desirée Pais

from Thought To Thing · host Maia Benaim

So two Venus in Capricorn walk into a bar and sit down to talk about well basically everything to the point that we forgot we were recording a podcast.Desiree Pais is the founder of Benshen: a community, course, and movement that started with six women on a yoga mat in a Williamsburg living room while she kicked her ex-boyfriend out every Saturday morning. This vision grew to 30 women, then 40, then the pandemic hit and 500 people signed up overnight, and she's here to spill the whole tea on Benshen's origin story and how thoughts TRULY turn into things. She's truly one of the most grounded-yet-wildly-alive women I've had the pleasure of talking to and this convo really deserves you to make a bevy grab a cig and sit down for it.In this episode we go into:🍑 How Benshen started with 6 women in Desi’s apartment/How expansion started with 5 women on zoom (yep the parallel lives are eerie in this episode)🍑 The Mykonos files, the Berlin files (you'll understand when you hear it)🍑 Why chaos is feminine and containers are masculine, and why you need both (Hi Birjiwan♡)🍑 The urgency addiction: getting addicted to rock bottom as your fuel source (and how to stop that!)🍑 How to call your power back, but also how to HOLD it when it comes🍑 Descartes, philosophy, the mind-body split, and how it explains basically everything wrong with the world🍑 Priestess archetypes hidden in plain sight: Persephone, the divine feminine, and reclaiming power🍑 Feminine rage as a force for building, not destroying🍑 Astrology, Venus in Capricorn, and why two psychopaths built their businesses exactly like thisThe line from this episode that lives in my head:"The fastest way to become powerful is to keep your word. The fastest way to lose power is to not do what you say you're going to do when you say you're going to do it."About Desiree:Instagram: @desireepaisBenshen: benshen.co Benshen membership Referenced in this episode:Becoming Supernatural — Joe DispenzaWomen Who Run with the Wolves — Clarissa Pinkola EstésWhen God Was a Woman — Merlin StoneMary Magdalene Revealed — Meggan WattersonThe Magdalen ManuscriptDr. Carla Ionescu — history podcastBirjiwan — our mutual connection ❤️Also since we are here, you already know:Expansion Vol. 7 (my 4-month deep business and growth mastermind, starting in September) is launching next week. Applications open June 2nd, 5pm Europe / 11am New YorkMake sure to join the waitlist right here if you're coming. All rounds have sold out in a few hours.

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