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Now, please enjoy our podcast at On The House With The Carried Brothers. It's James and Morris Carrey. Thank you, Magic Mike, and thank you for tuning into this hour of our program on the house with us, The Carried Boys, with faces for radio. And if you're there to have a look at our faces, you can go to the website at OnTheHouse.com where we recently posted some video from our visit last week to the National Hardware Show.
Wow, what a great show that was. Lots of tools and neat stuff that you'll find rolling out at your local hardware store or home center and advanced look inventions. I listen to every minute of that channel. You liked it.
Yes. Oh, no, I loved it. You said it was good. You said it was one of the best remotes we've ever been.
Absolutely. And I heard you say that too. Yeah. I had to say that everybody involved did a terrific job.
So I thank you for that. You included. How much would you spend for a mid-range bathroom model? That's the question we're going to ask this hour.
I've got a Carrie Brothers ball cap embroidered by the way. This is no cheap cap. This is a beautiful cotton. I just saw very fast.
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And I see one of those two. We'll draw randomly at the end of the hour. We want you to check in. How much would you spend for a mid-range bath remodel?
Why are we asking the question? Well, it's home improvement month. That's number one. And the bath is probably one of the most cost effective home improvements that you can make according to the 2015 cost versus value report with a cost recouped of 70%.
So they state they state in the cost versus value report what the natural. I beg your pardon. The natural national average should be of a bathroom remodel. Now, let's talk about what this mid-range bath remodel should consist of so that you can offer.
Your guess. Okay. And of course, your guess is or not necessarily a guess. It would be what you would realistically spend what you would realistically spend or a mid-range bath remodel.
Whether you're doing it or not, what we just spend to update an existing. Five by seven footprint. That's a five foot by seven foot. Bathroom footprint.
You're going to replace all the fixtures to include a new five foot porcelain on steel tub. I don't like that first. That's the first problem. I would never do a porcelain on steel tub.
I would do a porcelain on cast iron tub or I would do a composite tub, but porcelain on steel for my money would not be the way to go. But that's what's part of this cost versus value report. With a four by four ceramic tile surround. Okay.
So it's a shower over tub with four by four tile to probably about six foot off the floor. Six, six foot, six off the floor. New single lever temperature and pressure balance shower control standard white toilet solid surface vanity counter with integral sink recessed medicine cabinet with light ceramic tile floor. And vinyl wallpaper.
What the hell is doing vinyl wallpaper to bathroom right now? I've done that for years. Are we sure that this is the 2015 cost versus value report? I have some real problems with this, by the way.
I have some real problems with this. Four by four ceramic tile for starters. Not the most popular size was 10 years ago. A lot of different alternatives.
That's number one porcelain on steel tub. Who's going to do that in a bathroom remodel? Come on. Porcelain on steel is subdivision construction.
Not an upgrade. You drop a bottle shampoo in it or a bar of Irish spring. You chip it. No, I don't agree with that.
White toilet. Okay. White's good decorate with towels and accessories. So white's fine.
No problem with that. Solid surface vanity counter. Most people are doing a composite or or granite. That's fine.
I don't see any mention of the cabinet and they talk about it integral sink. Well, who's doing an integral sink these days? All right. Maybe there are some solid surface products that contain an integral sink, but more often than not, but we're seeing in today's bathroom remodels is a undermount sink with the finished edge and you can have a self-rooming sink.
Sure, of course, that's possible. But I don't know about that. Recess medicine cabinet with a light. Fine.
That's good. Ceramic tile floor. Okay. I'll buy that.
But the vinyl wallpaper? Gosh, I know wallpaper is making a comeback, but I don't know. I don't know. Would you do wallpaper?
Would you do wallpaper? I don't think so. But you know what that bathroom better sing because in our lifetime, we will spend an average of one and a half years in the bathroom. I remember my brother's case.
3.7 years. And if you want to average that a little bit 92 days on the throne. That's right. Wow.
Okay. So all the house wants to know. How much would you spend for a mid-range bathroom model? And would you wallpaper your bathroom?
Yeah. Do you share the same on the house wants to know? That's what I said. And do you share the same concerns that I have with regard to his porcelain on steel tub?
Yeah. Plus home improvement month starts in the bathroom. And we'll talk a little bit about some other things there from our friends at Mansfield plumbing. By the way, there's a contest that'll be coming up.
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Hey, Bob. Welcome to the program. Hello. How are you doing this?
Very well. What's on your mind, Bob? Saving water in this water star of California. Yes, indeed.
I have a plan. It is to warm all of my gray water, washing machine showers, thanks to a tank underground and then from that tank put out underground. Soakers to soak the different plants and grass areas. I think I think that's a fabulous idea.
Absolutely. And there's a lot of discussion going on these days about having these systems installed in new construction as a matter of course. And I think that we need to take a more serious look at ways in which we can harness the gray water and utilize it for irrigation as an example. There was a device that a fellow invented that he sold to Sloan valve company.
My recent understanding is that there's some issue with the manufacturer and or distribution of the device, but it captured it was a tank under the bathroom. Vanity that captured the gray water and a pump in the tank would run the water into the toilet tank. An automatic float, of course, would would stop the pump. The pump would only operate when the tank toilet tank needed water.
And then when you flush your toilet, you flush your toilet with gray water. So, and of course, we see toilets in different parts of the world that have a faucet for washing hands, a sink and a faucet above the tank. And as you wash your hands, the water goes into the tank and then is utilized to flush the toilet. So I think there are a lot of ways that we can save water.
We need we need to really now look at ways in which to minimize the waste of this precious commodity. And one of the ways is as you suggest. Now, I want to recommend that what you do is check with your local water utility with regard to any concerns that they have in using gray water for irrigation and recommendations that they have. Because you should run the water through a filter.
Have you considered that? No, I did. Yeah. You might want to consider filtering the water so that you don't introduce anything potentially harmful into your garden that could either damage what you have.
And there are certain salts and soaps and other ingredients in gray water that might have a negative effect, but many of which can be filtered. Right. And not with an elaborate filtration system. I mean, this is something that that can range from a cartridge.
It's a cartridge filter that doesn't require any energy, just just an inline filter. Right. How often does that need to be replaced? Oh, Lord, I mean, you know, I would be surprised if you had to replace it more than once annually.
Right. So what are you doing? I'm thinking about hiring a plumber to come and put that recovery system in for me. That's wonderful.
Have you reached out to anyone yet? I know I haven't. Now, the nice thing is you have a crawl space, right? Crawl space or basement?
I do see. So you're plumbing is accessible, readily accessible. You live in the good life. Now, my home is built on a slab on grade and I don't have access to the to the system as do you.
So I thought the crawl space would be an excellent way to connect it. The gray water together. Yeah, it's wonderful. And you know, there is a let's see.
Why don't you do this for me, Bob? Go to the web and look for, I think it's called the rainwater pillow. And this is a bladder that goes in the crawl space of your home. Now, this thing has been around for ages.
This is not new because of the water crisis that route. This has been around for a while and it was designed to collect water from downspouts and rainwater. So you would connect water pillow. Right.
And I just I just went to the web and yes, that my recollection is correct. It is called rainwater pillow. The web address is rainwater pillow dot com. And it is a rainwater and storm water harvesting system designed to be stored in horizontal wasted space, such as under your home.
And some of these pillows, believe it or not, will hold up to if you're ready for this 200,000 gallons. Now, I'm not going to suggest that you're going to get 200,000 gallons under your house. But I'll bet you you can get, you know, three or four thousand gallons and not that you necessarily need that much, but I will tell you, they do have potable and non-potable systems for irrigation, stormwater management, toilet flushing, laundry, fire suppression, cooling towers and drinking water. So I think we're going to hear more about this and I think a good place for you to start, Bob, would be with rainwater pillow dot com.
I just did that with Google. Yeah. I didn't rainwater pillow and it brought up the rainwater pillow. Yeah.
And they'll help you with design. They'll help you with pumps and all the installation stuff. And how about that? Aren't you glad you called?
That was good. Well, thank you so very much. I'm glad you called Bob. Okay.
All right, buddy. Stay well. Hey, Bob, I have a question for you before you go, Bob. Yes.
How much would you spend for a mid-range bathroom model? What would you spend for a mid-range bathroom model? You're going to take your bathroom five by seven footprint. This isn't the fancy, you know, Caesar's Palace bathroom.
But you're going to tear what you've got out, put something new in. What would you invest? I don't know. I have no idea.
All right. I'll ask you this. Would you invest 50,000? Oh, no.
Okay. Would you invest 5,000? Oh, probably. Would you invest 20,000?
No. Would you invest 15,000? No. 10,000?
No. Okay. So it sounds like the numbers about five between five and 10,000. Right.
Okay. All right. We so noted your deal here and we'll reveal what the the 2015 cost versus value study reveals for the national average, the job cost for the national average bathroom model, mid-range bathroom model. Bob, I'm glad you're not hiring me to do your bathroom.
Bob's a good guy though. He's going to harvest that water and reuse it as we all should. Bob's line open the number eight, zero, zero, seven, three, seven, two, four, seven, four. Big problem this week was they're tearing down candlestick part.
Yeah, we're using drinking water to spray down. Stupid. Stupid, especially with the bay not too far away. Can you spell fire hose?
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Thank you, Mike. Thanks for tuning into this half of this hour. It's on the house at eight hundred seven three seven two four seven four at about 32 minutes after the hour. It's Gail's turn.
Welcome to the program. Hi, Gail. Hi, how are you guys doing? Terrific.
How about you? Well, we're doing pretty good up here in good old Washington. How about that? Cheapsgate Bob?
It wouldn't spend more than five thousand dollars to remodel his bathroom. Oh, well, no, I would spend between five and ten, but not more. Okay. All right, so registered five to ten.
I've got that and this. I'm probably maybe depending on what kind of wallpaper I picked out, you know, that they had that I liked. I might wallpaper parts, you know, certain walls. Right, right.
And of course, wallpaper is making its way back. I can recall when we paper everything. We paper it every in the kitchen, the bathrooms, the powder room, the entry all, the dining room, the bedroom. I mean, we paper it everything and we have it was very pretty.
It was pretty and we had a lot of fun doing it and I can recall the border in the kitchen of my first home. And my wife was so happy because that was a duck border. It had ducks on it. Oh my God.
Oh, yeah, she loved the ducks. That was great. So what's on your mind? Well, okay, the my I've got a deck and it's only about two foot off the ground and the main deck is a truck deck board, but then they faced it with Hardy Plank around it.
And it was painted. This is built in old 506 timeframe. Hey, that sounds kind of neat. There was tracks on the walking surface and then at the perimeter, they used Hardy Plank as a skirt.
Right. Oh, we painted that. We painted it white. Okay.
And now it's on the south side of the south side of the house, which gets the weather. Right. Now, we painted it. I primed it.
Well, they painted it first. So I don't know what they did, but I know when they put it in that if they cracked it, they just painted over it. And I get noticed it for probably about three, four years later. Right.
And so then I had a gentleman that was a contractor and done quite a different buildings and things and I just, can you fix this? And he says, yes. So he put in new Hardy Plank and actually he did a better job than the contractors did. Oh, did he take off all of the Hardy Plank?
He just put a new Hardy Plank. Okay. And put new on there and he made it fit better underneath the first piece of, well, that first piece of Hardy Plank tracks that was at the edge of the deck. Got it.
And so when he got done, well, then I primed it with some good primer. Okay. And then I painted it. Well, the next, after the first, and I think I put two coats of it on there.
Maybe I put too much. I don't know. But the next, through the next winter, I know, noticed that spring and part of the summer, it was painted off again. So I stripped it and scraped it and everything and redone it again.
Now I noticed this spring. I've got now, not all of it did it, but there's still a spot now that is has peeled off and it's a pretty good tight spot. And I'm saying, well, I'm wondering what in the world did I do wrong? Well, I, there's only one thing.
First of all, we first demonstrated Hardy Plank on television. I want to say in 1997, which is, you know, that's got that's about 18 years ago, something like that 1997 on the home and family TV show. We shared this because it was a relatively new product, an alternative to dimensional lumber, an attractive product that mimics the wood grain of natural product quite nicely. And we painted it and it took paint well.
Subsequently, my brother used it on his home. He painted it and it held up well. A mistake that a lot of people make, however, is that they don't, when they cut the product, they don't prime the cut ends. And one of the things that the manufacturer recommends is that when you cut the product, you prime it.
You prime it before you install it. And so, a big part. This is in the center between the ends. It's in the center between the ends.
Okay. So that's number one. Number two, we have heard reports recently from listeners who have used the product who are experiencing what you have. And they're in very cold areas.
Or areas where there is a lot of moisture and you're in Washington, of course. So what potentially is here, here's what's supposed to happen with Hardy Plank. Here's what I think you've got. I think you've got your tracks and then you have this skirt and I'll bet you the Hardy Plank is nailed to either posts or maybe you have a skirt that is pressure treated material or Western Red Cedar or Southern Yellow Pine or Redwood.
And you've put the Hardy Plank over that, but you did not use a vapor barrier on the back of it. Would that be true? You know, I don't know. I don't know.
I was at home here. Yeah. Let me tell you what's happening. Let me tell you what's happening.
What's happening is that the Hardy Plank is designed to be installed over a vapor barrier, like Tyvek or building paper or something like that. And so if you've installed the product and it doesn't have a vapor barrier in the back, water is wicking in. It gets cold. There's a freeze-thaw situation that happens, but at a minimum, just the water wicking in from the unfinished surface is causing, and it's on the south side.
It's on the weather side. And when the sun hits it, any residual moisture that's wicked into that cementitious product then vaporizes. It expands. It turns to steam and it bubbles.
What do you have to do? One of two things. You can remove the existing product, prep it with a good vapor barrier in the back in accordance with the recommendation by the folks at James Hardy at their website. And they have a Hardy wrap, by the way, which is their vapor barrier.
Install that and then install the Hardy backer and paint it. The problem will not come back. Or what you can do is use their pre-colored product that you don't have to paint, which means that the color is integral to the manufacturing process. And that is another alternative.
And you'll never have to paint again provided, of course, that you can find it in a color that meets your expectations. Gotta take a break, Gail. I hope that's of help to you. 800-737-2474 is our number.
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Learn more at rhonbow.com. Now, back to the podcast. Just wrapping it up with Gail and Shehail is Washington and her Hardy Plank. She has another question.
By the way, Gail, the product from Hardy Plank is called Color Plus. That's where they have their integral color. And it's just lovely. Just lovely.
Really, really, really terrific alternative. You don't have to paint it. It's in there. But one of the two alternatives, either.
And in either case, whether you're using Color Plus or whether you're using the traditional product that you paint, you need that vapor barrier in the back to prevent moisture from making its way into the back of the sighting. Okay? Okay, that sounds great, Dan. And I'll have to check here at Home Depot if they've got something.
You're a doll. And tell me about your other question. Well, the other question I have is that rock saw here and you talk. Now, with a person, if they want to put it, I mean, the house is finished, you know, in an opinion, it's those sticks.
But to put it on the wall, whether we have to take all the rock back off and everything? That's the bad news. Okay. The good news is...
We failed to mention that during the discussion. The good news is you can have a quieter home. The bad news is you have to tear the home down. Actually...
Oh, I figured that was going to happen. Yeah. There's sound attenuation material is designed for new construction or remodeling. Now, that's the bad news.
The good news is that there is a product called Quiet Rock. Quiet Rock. Q-Y-E-T-R-O-C-K. It is a drywall that has a visco elastic polymer in its core that will transform noise into heat energy and dissipate.
And it may be installed over existing wall board. It has a finishing system so that you caulk and tape joints and finish it. I would... The website used to be Quiet Rock.com.
As a matter of fact, the company was just bought by our friends at Pacific Coast and they owned SACrete and Basilite and a host of other PABCO roofing. Let's see. Quiet Rock. Quiet Rock.
Let's see what we can find. Quiet Rock. Quiet Rock.com. Quiet Rock.com.
Manufacture of advanced acoustical products. It's designed to reduce noise, improve architectural freedom and promote sanity. So go to... Yeah.
That's the thing because I've got some... I mean, I've got large windows and I can hear the traffic and everything. But if I... Probably would have thought when we were building, if I could have moved the house back another 10 foot, I probably wouldn't hear it as bad.
But yeah, I've got large picture windows so we can look at the mount ring here and the... Oh my gosh. That's wonderful. And by the way, Gail, they also...
This company, they've spun off. But there's something called Serious Windows. I don't know whether they're still around. We'll look.
But those are windows that are certainly noise-reducing windows and they're triple-pain windows and they're storm windows that you can put on which will help reduce the noise. Gotta take a break. Dale's line open. 800, repair it.
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Now, back to the podcast. 800-737-2474 Rose is in Anchorage, Alaska. Welcome to the program, Rose. Hey.
How are you? I'm doing fine. What's going on, Rose? I used to be a Jack on Outgrains.
You should work remodeling houses with my boyfriend. One. We used to remodel kitchen bathrooms and everything. Well, you know what?
I bet you could tell a lot of stories. So what I want to know, Rose, is what would you invest in a bathroom remodel? That's the question. How much would you spend for a mid-range bathroom model?
10,000. Because we used to do granite and everything. Well, I'll tell you, and we have a problem with the line, so we have to keep this short. But I'm going to reveal because we're nearing the end of the hour.
According to the 2015 Cost Versus Value Report, the national average job cost for a mid-range bathroom model is... $1,000. The roll. $16,724.
The resale value, $11,770. Cost recouped 70% down slightly from the 2014 report. And so there you have it. Thanks for the call, Rose.
Rick is on the other side of the US in Bangor, Maine. Welcome to the program. Thank you very much, Rick. Yes, sir.
How may we help? I've got a daylight basement that we drive about a year old house that faces south and has settled. And I had a problem with the mill room old pipe under a cut. We pulled that out.
We treated the floor to get the new do smell. I was still working on that. Haven't got it quite complete yet. I wanted to get some advice on the best way to put down a new floor and what would be the better.
I don't want to go to confit again unless I have some kind of subfloor. Maybe there's some kind of a final in it. Like flooring. So I'm just looking for ideas on the big barrier or some kind of treatment other than kills on the concrete.
Okay. All right. So you have concrete. That's okay.
And you've got to get rid of the mold and mildew. Here's what I would do. I would, because you don't have a lot of time. Can you leave the floor exposed for a while?
Yeah. I'd be glad to be able to do it. Okay. Once you've established that there are no strains of staphia, boccas and any potential black mold that could be dangerous.
And you can do that with a mold test kit. There's nothing to do. No swabbing or nothing. You just buy it.
You open it. You leave it there. Collect air samples. You close the Petri dish up.
You mail it in and you pay, I don't know, 29 bucks or something and they'll send you a report and say, yep, you have mold present, but none of it is toxic. Hopefully. That's number one. That's just airing on the side of caution.
Number two. I would get wet and forget indoor. That is non-toxic, non-abrasive, non-cosmic, virtually pH neutral. Mix it with water, get a pump garden spray or spray it onto the concrete.
It'll absorb into it. And it will work for a long time. It'll get rid of the mold and it's excellent. You can go to wetandforget.com for more information.
If you're in a big hurry, then you need to use bleach, detergent and water, mixed, scrub, rinse, dry and air dry and that sort of thing. If you're sure that there's no humidity and water there, then a dehumidifier is not necessary. I would say probably if you want a carpeted finish, you can go with a vapor barrier and then install a pad over the vapor barrier. Some pads have milder resistant properties and built-in vapor barriers.
You can look at that. A same master is one of the leading manufacturers and then install your carpet. Or if you want the best of all worlds, go with a durable surface like a floating floor or a tile and in either case you'll probably be mold free. We're out of time, Rick.
We really appreciate the call. Good luck to you. And reminder more tips and information at our website, it's onthehouse.com. On the house with the Carri brothers is a presentation of On the House Media.