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EPISODE · Jun 23, 2026 · 1H 17M

On The Line: Carney condo bailout? No, not quite

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In today’s episode of On The Line, host Matt Gurney is joined by two guests for conversations about housing, politics, and why governments sometimes struggle to explain themselves.This episode is brought to you by BioCanRx. When your immune system recognizes that cancer is a problem, but can’t kill it, can science help? This summer we’re partnering with BioCanRx, a federally-funded Canadian not-for-profit research network, to learn about cutting edge cancer immunotherapy research that they’re helping Canadian researchers bring from labs to patients in clinical trials –– all in Canada.One of the reasons cancers are so destructive is because they find ways to evade your immune system. But in some tumours, researchers find cancer-killing immune cells called “tumour infiltrating lymphocytes,” or TILs. These are like infantry grunts choosing to stand their ground during the final fight in a superhero movie. They get inside the tumour and start fighting – –but they’re outnumbered and ill equipped. They need reinforcements.Researchers in Canada and around the world are studying techniques to extract them from a tumour and multiply them in a lab environment. Once they number in the millions, they’re sent back into the fight. Research into this line of attack against cancer is ongoing, and there are plenty of questions — we’ll be covering more of them over the course of the summer. Go to BioCanRx.com to learn more about these new ways of fighting cancer.First up is Mike Moffatt of the Missing Middle Initiative and co-host of the Missing Middle Podcast. He joins Matt to discuss the much-debated “condo bailout” and why, despite the label, it isn’t actually a condo bailout at all. Moffatt argues that the government has done itself no favours by communicating the policy so poorly, and walks listeners through what the plan is — and what it isn’t. The conversation then broadens into a look at the state of housing in Canada more generally. There are some signs of progress, but the underlying challenges remain enormous, and Moffatt explains why solving them will require much more than a handful of headline-grabbing announcements.This episode is also brought to you by the Forest Products Association of Canada. A stronger forest industry depends on getting goods to market. Forest products move by truck, rail, and ship, and reliability matters. When costs rise or shipments stall, mills, workers, customers, and communities all feel the impact. Stronger trade corridors, better rail performance, labour stability, and reliable transportation should be treated as core parts of Canada’s productivity agenda. For a sector rooted in communities and connected to global markets, transportation is transformation. Learn more at FPAC.ca.Then Matt is joined by Andrew MacDougall of Trafalgar Strategy for a look across the Atlantic at the increasingly turbulent state of British politics. They discuss the struggles of now-outgoing Prime Minister Keir Starmer, the rise of Andy Burnham as a potential future national leader, and why so many observers now see the United Kingdom as becoming increasingly difficult to govern. MacDougall argues that the country’s problems run deeper than any one politician or party, and offers his own diagnosis of what has gone wrong.It’s a pair of conversations about institutions under strain, political communication, and the challenge of governing in an era when public patience is increasingly in short supply.This episode is also brought to you by Cameco. In nuclear energy, timelines and costs matter. Incomplete designs carry real risk of delays and cost overruns. That’s why the AP1000 reactor is the right choice for Canada: it is already operating today and ready now to deliver the power we need, with 100 percent Canadian ownership and strong participation from Canadian suppliers. If we are serious about building Canada and powering it on time and on budget, the choice is clear. The AP1000 reactor is the only option that delivers.To learn more, visit ap1000.cameco.com.If you enjoyed the episode, be sure to share it, and as always, like and subscribe.YouTube:Video goes live at 7:00 Eastern and 5:00 Mountain.Spotify:Apple:And plenty more options here.We hope you enjoy the episode — and don’t miss us next week. We’ll be back with more On The Line.The Line is entirely reader and advertiser funded. No federal subsidies, no bailouts. If you value our work, please consider supporting us by subscribing or making a donation. Donations are not subscriptions and do not unlock paywalled content, but they help keep The Line independentTo contact The Line with a general inquiry or comment, please email [email protected]. For other ways to connect with us or to follow us on social media, please see our LinkTree. Get full access to The Line at www.readtheline.ca/subscribe

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