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EPISODE · Nov 25, 2025 · 1H 3M

On The Line: Should Canada just join America?

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In the latest episode of On The Line, host Jen Gerson sits down with Ross Douthat, a columnist with the New York Times who was in Ottawa this week to deliver the inaugural Ian Shugart Lecture, hosted by Christian think tank Cardus. Jen presses Ross on his now-infamous column from earlier this year arguing that Canada should “join Empire America” — and why he thinks that idea was worth advancing.Gerson and Douthat dig into why that column hit such a nerve, what Ross was actually arguing, and how Canadians misunderstand both American politics and themselves. They explore the themes behind his Ottawa lecture, including the shifting religious and political landscape in the United States, and how those shifts ripple north of the border.The conversation then turns to the rise of Christian nationalism. What does this movement really represent? Why is it gaining traction? And what do Canadians — especially those who comment on American politics — get right, and very likely wrong, about its causes and its future?You can find more of Ross Douthat’s work in the New York Times, on the podcast The Argument, and in his books, including The Decadent Society.New episodes of On The Line drop every Tuesday. Subscribe at ReadTheLine.ca, follow us on your favourite podcast app, and don’t forget to leave us a nice review. Audio drops every Tuesday morning, with video rolling out Tuesday evening on YouTube and our social channels. Catch it wherever you listen or watch.YouTube (video goes live in 30 minutes):Spotify:Apple:And plenty more options here.We hope you enjoy the episode — and don’t miss us next week. We’ll be back with more On The Line.The Line is entirely reader and advertiser funded — no federal subsidy for us! If you value our work, have already subscribed, and still worry about what will happen when the conventional media finishes collapsing, please make a donation today. Please note: a donation is not a subscription, and will not grant access to paywalled content. It’s just a way of thanking us for what we do. If you’re looking to subscribe and get full access, it’s that other blue button!The Line is Canada’s last, best hope for irreverent commentary. We reject bullshit. We love lively writing. Please consider supporting us by subscribing. Please follow us on social media! Facebook x 2: On The Line Podcast here, and The Line Podcast here. Instagram. Also: TikTok. BlueSky. LinkedIn. Matt’s Twitter. The Line’s Twitter.Jen’s Twitter. Contact us by email: [email protected] Get full access to The Line at www.readtheline.ca/subscribe

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