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EPISODE · Dec 4, 2025 · 41 MIN

“One of the most troubling things I've seen”

from Deadline: White House · host Nancy Youssef, Senator Gary Peters, Nicolle Wallace, Rear Admiral William Baumgartner, John Heilemann, Ben Rhodes

Nicolle Wallace covers a bipartisan effort to receive more answers on the deadly double-tap boat strike in the Caribbean. After Congress was briefed on the military operation, Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) said, “what I saw in that room was one of the most troubling things I’ve seen in my time in public service.”Later, Nicolle covers the Pentagon Inspector General’s conclusion that Pete Hegseth did not follow proper Department of Defense protocol, which does not allow using personal devices for official DoD business. This conclusion is in response to Hegseth and other prominent Trump administration officials discussing classified war plans on a messaging app called Signal. The scandal has since been dubbed ‘Signalgate.’For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewhTo listen to this show and other MS NOW podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts.To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Nicolle Wallace covers a bipartisan effort to receive more answers on the deadly double-tap boat strike in the Caribbean. After Congress was briefed on the military operation, Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) said “what [he] saw in that room was one of the most troubling things [he’s] seen...”

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