EPISODE · Dec 3, 2025 · 2H 15M
ONLY People Using AI Will Survive!! Ft. Nayab Babar | 481 | TBT
from Thought Behind Things · host Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi
In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Nayab Babar, Chief Investment Officer at the Pakistan Startup Fund, the man shaping how capital flows into Pakistan’s next generation of startups.Nayab shares how Warcraft strategy games trained his problem-solving mindset, how his perspective on racism changed, and why he believes exposure not arguments fixes prejudice.Nayab also explains why:Pakistan & India have the same starting line in AIYou won’t be replaced by AI, but by people USING AIWestern media’s “free speech” narrative is deeply hypocriticalNICs are broken and need complete rebuildingBrain drain isn’t always a bad thingThis is one of the most honest conversations on Pakistan’s tech reality, global competition, and the mindset shift needed for the next decade.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Nayab's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayab-babar-cfa/Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistanCredits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
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In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we sit down with Nayab Babar, Chief Investment Officer at the Pakistan Startup Fund, the man shaping how capital flows into Pakistan’s next generation of startups.Nayab shares how Warcraft strategy games trained his problem-solving mindset, how his perspective on racism changed, and why he believes exposure not arguments fixes prejudice.Nayab also explains why:Pakistan & India have the same starting line in AIYou won’t be replaced by AI, but by people USING AIWestern media’s “free speech” narrative is deeply hypocriticalNICs are broken and need complete rebuildingBrain drain isn’t always a bad thingThis is one of the most honest conversations on Pakistan’s tech reality, global competition, and the mindset shift needed for the next decade.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Nayab's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayab-babar-cfa/Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistanCredits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid
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