Ooh, you’re hard! – How seriously should we take ‘Hard Labour’?

Crossover edition with hit pod The Two Matts. What the hell is ‘Hard Labour’? Is it Blue Labour in disguise, Old Labour on steroids, or Starmerism’s inevitable final form? The New European’s Matt Kelly and Matt D’Ancona join Zöe Grünewald and Dorian Lynskey to look at Labour’s identity crisis. Plus: Fortress Europe vs Trump 2.0, The Beatles vs Andrew Tate in the battle for young men’s minds in the Extra Bit… and we invent “base-punching”.  • Dorian’s Introduction to Father John Misty playlist.  • Back us on Patreon for ad-free listening, bonus materials and more.  Written and presented by Dorian Lynskey and Zöe Grünewald with special guests Matt Kelly and Matt D’Ancona. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. Theme music by Cornershop. Produced by Chris Jones. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices