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EPISODE · May 26, 2026 · 59 MIN

Oprah and renowned psychotherapist Esther Perel on What We Really Want in a Relationship

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World-renowned psychotherapist Esther Perel returns to The Oprah Podcast to share her brilliant relationship insights with a live audience. Esther has incisive advice for Gen Z women who’ve given up on dating, a mother of five struggling to heal old wounds in her marriage and a single mom who put her dating life on hold to focus on raising her son. Plus, Esther reveals what she learned during her first-ever therapy session between a man and his AI chatbot girlfriend. She also reflects on the 20th anniversary of her groundbreaking book Mating in Captivity — and why, in today’s age of disconnection, its message is more crucial than ever.BUY THE BOOK!The 20th anniversary edition of Mating in Captivity, published by HarperCollins and written by Esther Perel, is available wherever books are sold.https://amzn.to/3RkN7V700:00:00 - Welcome Esther Perel00:03:00 - Desire in long-term relationships00:05:12 - Relationships in 2006 vs. 202600:08:45 - We’re more connected and less accessible00:10:32 - 3 most common sex challenges today00:13:00 - Esther’s dating advice00:17:30 - One person can’t be everything00:21:05 - The love myth we learned00:22:50 - What to look for in a partner00:25:30 - Relationship ambivalence00:29:40 - Relationships with chatbots00:36:36 - Chatbot relationships are here00:37:57 - When couples therapy took off00:39:00 - Healing from relationship ruptures00:42:00 - Importance of repair00:46:00 - How to date again00:48:28 - Healing from heartbreak00:54:50 - How Esther understands peopleFollow Oprah Winfrey on Social:https://www.instagram.com/oprahpodcast/https://www.facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/Listen to the full podcast:https://open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLIhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcast/id1782960381

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