In the dead of night as people sleep that is when the spirits creep as the bell tolls three Dark things take power. We like to call it the supernatural Hey, welcome to the supernatural hour podcast. I am your host Raven. I am Chad It's moon.
It's summer. I am still whiskey. Oh good. Have it glad no one's changed yet I think it's because I come from a still I don't know So We're in mid-spooky season.
It has been a ton of fun We have got literally a gob ton of investigations to talk to you about but you're gonna have to wait before we can talk about those in the meantime We still have a gob ton of stuff coming up. So yes, we do we've got the Levitt cemetery coming up on October 19 That's in Ogden. It'll be a great investigation. We're looking forward to that following the Levitt cemetery So go out to Eventbrite or events paranormal calm events and get your tickets for that after that We've got some free stuff that you can go to we've had some great library investigations.
We're down to the last one We're gonna talk about the others when we talk about our investigations But the American Fork many dead talk presentation and investigation is gonna be Wednesday October 23rd at the American Fork Library So you can contact them at 801 763 3070 for more of that information and following that There's the free Indian Hills haunted house. That's at 2718 West 950 North in Provo the scare nights are Friday October 25th Saturday October 26th From 8 p.m. Tell 11 p.m And on Halloween Thursday October 31st from 8 p.m. Until 10 p.m And then there is an also a no scare walk through where there'll be no actors and no jump scares that kind of thing That's on Wednesday October 30th from 7 p.m.
Until 9 p.m So those are great if you have any questions about that go to events paranormal calm and on the first page We've got an area and you can go down to the Indian Hills for on that click the link And it'll take you to a page where there's YouTube videos and things for that you can see what it's all about It's really a great haunted house and it's for free. It really is I've paid for some haunted houses that aren't as good as this one So and they've got a food truck that has some fantastic food Yeah, so if we truck with a haunted house or a haunted house with a food truck there's only one way to find out Well, there you tell you're there All right, so if you listen to our last podcast, you know that we are talking about the stages of position first stage was our last Podcast so if you haven't listened to that go give it a listen today We're gonna talk about the second stage which is oppression and oppression I think I don't want to say it's the most common phase But I think that's where things really start to Maybe it is the most common phase because it's phase one you don't really notice I think most people start to notice in phase two if you're not you're probably I Contention to stuff and then I think most people probably get help before they actually get to three I think what we're saying most common. It's just the most recognizable because obviously it really goes in order so number one True true. This is when you get to googling ghost hunters in my area Exactly and that just goes back to I think a lot of times that first stage you don't really notice until it's a little bit too late So yes, that's probably a better way to put it But second stage as defined by our group can be defined several different ways that our group defines it as oppression and oppression is after you have You know whether you know it or not You have given an invitation for something to come in and the invitation might be something that you have done purposely Don't do that highly don't suggest that it may have been something done innocently even like just play with the Ouija board Boom right there is going to be an invitation to open yourself up to something So once you've had that interaction Unbeknownst to you or not and you've given that invitation whether knowingly or not it's there and then the spirit will turn it will turn from a friend To something innocent into something nasty and this is when it really starts to show its true colors So what are your has opinions on depression?
It's depressing I always think of all the stages of possession honestly like eating stray animals on your porch. All right Sometimes you're putting out there There's an invitation to come eat and in your in your place and the oppression stages when you decide to leave the door open or install a doggy door And it starts getting real stinky in your house And you can't leave because your animals are always in your house You become isolated Maybe that sweet little kitten is now starting to show that it has very sharp claws and is really changing the way that you're living your life And making it so you don't go hang out with your friends and anything more don't feed the strays I like the analogy absolutely no there's definitely some signs to watch for you You can't really watch for signs necessarily in the infestation It's a little harder to define those signs But there are a little more clear-cut signs when you get to this stage So some of the things is first of all pay really close attention to your body reaction We always tell people in ghost hunts that your body is your best ghost hunting tool your body is just gonna tell you something is not Right, right which kind of plays into the second little thing on my list I have a list the second one on the list is just your six cents You just are gonna know that something's not right something that's off a lot of people have said that they get an overwhelming sense of dread You might feel like you're going to pass out That's another common thing that people have said and if you have any of these or a combination of these like anything You see these things on TV or on the internet here at the signs of this disease or this ailment You don't have to have all ten of them or all of them or whatever however many there may be But if you start feeling a few of these you might want to ask yourself Why am I feeling these now if you are starting to feel like there's something not right if you're starting to feel some dread Does that mean that you're being demonically oppressed? Maybe not maybe go talk to your doctor Maybe go talk to a therapist that might have some medical issues But if you've talked to a medical professional and you have rolled everything out you can't figure out why yeah Then give us a call and let's see or give us a call in conjunction with that But definitely don't leave out any medical ailments that could be causing those as well Feels like we need to add one of those television ads like if you were one of your loved ones is suffering from oppression and feeling symptoms of Being alone, we want to dread give us a call that advance paranormal. We can help you My favorite one is do not get a demonic impression if you are allergic to demonic possessions My thing about it is when I was looking at some of them It was just like oh some things you can find are like sleep disturbances and regular nightmares I'm like check check like a depression anxiety check check financial and playing a problem ensure people have that So I was like what takes it further and then further on it was saying like gets more physical You might say go scratches and stuff on you and things like that So I had to go a little further What's your mean my life is just spiraling out of control and there's a demon trying to get it So when I say this is the most common as we've stated earlier It's probably the most recognizable is a better way to put it and when you talk about possessions I think even for people that haven't experienced this if you were to go out and just talk to people and say hey If someone was possessed what kind of traits would you know this is the thing you're gonna see in movies This is the thing that they really portray quite a bit So this is where you're gonna have heavy objects that are thrown They're usually gonna be thrown at the subject maybe or away from the subject But it's usually gonna have something to do with the subject This is where you're gonna hear knocks bangs pounding usually in threes like we've talked about a lot because they're mocking the Trinity This is where you're gonna have religious objects are desecrated.
So if you have anything to pick anything religious It's gonna break it's gonna tip over it's gonna melt I'm trying to think of what story it was where they had a little statue of Christ and it actually melted like a hand smelted off What was it now? Meta That was like crazy plastic or something I don't know why but I just envisioned like Roger Abbott I just came from into the fat of demonic ooze Yeah, I actually have a little tiny little statue of Christ that I will take with me on a residential if I suspect that there's Possibility of a demonic oppression just to see if anything happens So how about anything happened to it yet? We have had some pretty Pretty serious swears at us when we've been dealing with anything like this Which has only been less than a handful in the whole time We've been around but they will get physically ill if they're around a church or around anything That is religious. This is where animals will get very frightened.
Sometimes they'll die. Sometimes they'll be killed But they can get very sick. This is where you're gonna start smelling rotten odors And a lot of people talk about the smell of blood feces death that brought it to meat kind of a smell A lot of people will also say that they have a kind of a metallic Irony taste in their mouth like they're sucking on up any lot of times people will see these demonic spirits And this is where we tell people you need to look at these spirits because there's always something wrong These types of spirits are incapable of forming a perfect human body. There's always gonna be something wrong It's gonna be a lake missing.
There's gonna be on the eyes. They're gonna be gone They're not gonna have an ear They say that one way to test that is if you ask them to shake your hand if it's a true Real good spirit. They're not going to shake your hand because they know that they can't only a demonic entity would attempt to shake your hand And just have their hand pass through you because they're trying to deceive you So that's test I have heard of I think that one one thing I really got to decide obviously once you're there Identifying is crucial to prevent it from getting the next step But the reasons that you get to this point are often people aren't a stage of denial before they end up in oppression When they truly accidentally invite it you might be constantly saying like oh, it's just my house settling and then eventually start talking to your house And you're inviting it to do things and at a certain point You've now accepted it into your life and now you're at the point where it's okay now I have to figure out what this is. It's not always gonna be a greasy grandpappy.
That's just hanging out Yep, absolutely. So some of the other things growls can be heard when it's not Taco Bell. It's not You know I invite Taco Bell all the time and let me tell you I feel the oppression and Luckily the purge happens Their fresh cantina soft chicken tacos are amazing if you've ever had them and they don't make me have the demonic tummy Also, you might have activities starting around the house if you do anything religious like you're starting to pray or maybe if you have clergy Come over if you get to the point where you go I think I'm gonna have my my clergy come over things could ramp up This is also why you'll get physical attacks psychological attacks Sometimes sexual assaults and objects that are thrown or levitates and this isn't an entire list But that's where these sorts of things start to happen. Yeah, I've also heard about biting That's not fun.
The biting of the scratches like Velna mentioned and when we've been on these investigations with darker entities They do tend to scratch a lot So you witness that even without being the initial target for that absolutely and I have a really fun scratching story for the jump drawers So stay tuned for them. Mmm. It's If you do get a scratch it doesn't necessarily mean that you are in the stage of oppression, right? You might have just stumbled across something that wasn't happy you're there.
They happen sometimes on public investigations You know, I'll tell you right now. We're not gonna bring you into a position where you're going to be oppressed Unless you're bored of me after the first hour and you're stuck in my group. You might be feeling some sort of oppression there But the key is it's happening to visually it's happening to the same person It's very repetitive and the intent is to wear them down not just to scare them anymore and say I'm here It's I'm staying here and we're you're gonna deal with what I want or you're gonna let me do What I want right the whole idea of possession is that spirit wants control of your body and it's not gonna go up to Most people and say, you know what? I don't have a body.
Can I have you a book or say no? I don't think so so this entity has to wear you down It has to have that invitation like we talked about in the first podcast and then it has to break you down to the point where you say fine I am so done and so as I read through that list of stuff. It doesn't sound like anything Bad really a growl, you know, oh things get thrown But when you are hearing that and you're being woken up in the middle of the night and the growls are coming from nowhere I think everyone's watched enough movies to see and granted they've been you know, Hollywood's done their thing with them But when you're dealing with this day after day these mysterious knocks and things disappearing and you're waking up with scratches It's gonna wear you down. It's gonna break you down Yeah, there's a lot of adverse health effects that come from just not having a proper sleep cycle, right?
Even if you don't feel the response of fear your bodies will eventually form a stress response to these things happening just through habit Right and a form of PTSD can actually happen From the continued sounds happening all the time the interruptions are your sleep and then even if something's not happening you're sleeping interrupted Because you're just expecting something to happen at that point you might not be scared But you are getting tired being tired can lead to you making mistakes whether or not you're struggling with your mental health You're stressed from work on top of that You might accidentally crash your car doesn't mean necessarily that the demon is there in your car with you and turned the wheel and crashed it But it probably made you really tired to the point where maybe you miss a stop sign or you didn't see a car stop Hard or something like that or in some cases like we'll get into it a little bit It might actually move something that causes you to break your foot and then you're stuck at home further isolated from everybody Right and then oftentimes you know these things will be happening to one person and the family doesn't know what's going on The family just you know they can understand why this person is suddenly getting bad grades in school or suddenly missing work Or maybe the person that's being oppressed It's start shrinking a little bit more to kind of numb everything that's going on around them or starts getting into drugs to do the same thing And their family member doesn't understand what's going on and so these entities will also start to cause strife and fighting and Misunderstandings in the family and so not only is this person dealing with being oppressed by the spirit But then they're also dealing with problems within the family which just adds more stress on When it comes to the family being like what's going on with you? What's your problem? Is the family because I just wondering do they also hear the knocks and the bumps and the whatever or is only that one person Gonna be having that around them because is that person that was seen as crazy or whatever? Exactly and I think it depends on the people how sensitive is your family I'm sure that some people are aware of it and some people might go Oh, what was that some people might not some people that do hear it or gonna pass it off as something else because they don't believe in the money experience I think you could probably find any in all Within that category I think it just it really just plays it's a game essentially for whatever is trying to get a hold of you Right if it plays better into making you seem crazy if your family's not as accepting the paranormal then I guarantee you It's gonna do things that only you hear so they can't relate to you at all You're further isolated if your family's a little more open to the paranormal It might not need to take that extra effort right it might just slam things a lot when you're around But that's it I was really so funny No, what's the weirdest button you have go?
Let's see let's try them That one for that's from fairy tale. That's my phone ring Favorite thing I think of something good that is a meme It's just a baby there is a baby. I'm so sorry. Did you exercise a demon?
No, my mom called maybe we're talking about demons and the demons are back I apologize, I would have said something but someone was right in the middle of talking about something really good. So I thought yeah so when it comes to demonic oppression the things we've talked about there's the signs as it were and it's not only just the ones that I mentioned there's many more for many different people and We've also and I'm reiterating some of these ideas to break you down But just some of the basic effects and I'm gonna fix the victims emotion and it's gonna affect the people around them too to a certain degree But it's really targeted towards the victim But their emotions their thoughts their sleep and this is where victims are gonna start to hear voices and when we go on Investigations you'll know here in audible whisper all kinds of ghosts and spirits are gonna be able to say something But these are gonna be more like voices inside the head anyway We dealt with a residential not too long ago that we believe might be starting of a demonic oppression Yes, I think honestly that I was starting to want to compression the good news is I think we helped them I think we're good We got some positive responses from them afterwards So in case you're worried about that the story ends happily you won't be hearing about the next podcast episode yet fingers crossed And I think she was in the very early early stages So But she was at the point where she felt crazy one thing that we don't talk about too much Or haven't talked about yet is that in that stage it might take steps on people who are around you or attempting to come help you So we're not the first group of people that she reached out to We're the last maybe Hopefully but we showed up and we heard stories about people who said yes like respectable people in the community like pastors some LDS missionaries that they were gonna come by and then Something would come up and they just wouldn't show up for some reason Which is very out of character especially for members of the clergy or any major religion for the most part to not show up to somebody's house When they need help to the point that sorry didn't mean to cut in but it was to the point where Both her mother and the client kept texting me. They were just very gun-shy basically They didn't say it but it was almost like they were saying you're still coming right you're still coming right and so I always made sure I always try to make sure that the clients know that we're still engaged and I will contact them a day or two before to make Sure that we're still on board for the investigation But with the scale I just had a feeling to really respond to her a lot to reach out to her a little more than I do the most for some reason Yeah, and we've seen it actually at a farmers market. We've seen it recently a couple of times where Even if the farmers market actually the mistake for I was a great example all of us had something come up that just made us late I almost didn't go it barely got there set up We all kind of rise at the same time which was funny But we got everything set up real fast and somebody that walked in while we got there and we're setting up walk by our booth Obviously we had nothing to show finally came around by us on the way out very small markets This is like seven minutes Maybe they spent walking around looking at the different booths they went inside the store afterwards Which is much larger than the farmers market.
I know that sounds like it should be opposite anyways, they came to us and they just start crying because they didn't know that we existed and We're waiting hopefully to get a call from them when they move But it can do more than just mess with the person it can take steps on those around you including us They can help you sometimes there's certain house calls that I have nightmares about the house that I haven't even been to and Even though I know in my logical head There's no way like I can have a nightmare about this house I've never been to and when I get there it is a little different obviously But it gets in my head and it makes me think maybe I should go maybe when the bad's gonna happen to me if I go right No, absolutely I've you know I've been on the way to an investigation and You've never been to the person's house before you're going off a GPS and you're looking at numbers on the houses But you can I've pulled up to houses and you can feel it before you walk in you can feel it when you turn on to their street You're everything's fine. I have had You know like you said things happen to her Oh, maybe I can't go to this tonight Maybe I need to call the team and tell him I can't be there and it's like no Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah, and then it's like my stomach too. I obviously have Talk about all the time I had a bad day there I was like maybe I shouldn't go but after I got there I was fine.
I was literally fine. It's almost like how we describe paranormal scratches It subsides so quickly once you're in the moment for the most part or you're done with it But you almost forget that you were even like I took two wrong turns on the way up there and before I picked up moving on the way up Almost got in two different wrecks not for me driving but from other cars behind me not paying attention when the freo was really Stopped in the traffic was horrible that day you guys remember So there's there was so much against us getting there getting there on time to maybe make her feel like we didn't care But we still got there pretty close to on time and Yeah, that's just that's kind of one thing that like you might not think about is like we talk about how it makes you feel isolated but It might be taking extra steps on the others around you So like it might make you feel alone and it's just important to know that you're not alone Even if people are saying I'm coming to help you and something comes up like that's just part of it But in this house, I think one of the crazier things that happen is right after we walked in I got the smallest little scratches right on my wrist if you remember it's three little like little little scratches I do on my wrist and I just pointed out I was like Yeah, usually scratches are pretty long, but these were just little and I remember thinking it was almost like cat scratches And she did have cats, but it wasn't that And you didn't have them before you got And they went away they were gone the next day like that you could see cat scratches on my arm sometimes for my cat But yeah, they it was last for more than a day those didn't even those three crashes even last night They're down to one I think we went to Denny's afterwards looking at it There's just one little mark which by the way those cats were tuned in to helping us Find the thing in that house just for the record I know it can weigh on your animals negatively and I think it was bothering their dog for sure Just based off of how it responded, but the cats were like hey right over here and the ladies like the cats are never like this They're so nice. I'm like, yeah, dude. They're done with it too Yeah, right here in this bathroom and then we ask like oh, yeah, that's where it feels like someone's staring at me There's also there a pretty little strong in that field So we definitely had to approach it with a little bit of I mean and it's the same way we always do but in a serious It's really important to help them understand some of the physical things in the world that might influence the way that they're feeling Alongside the paranormal because once we help you remove yourself from the paranormal If you let those physical things still weigh on you and you attribute them to the power of this unseen thing You'll open the door back up.
We can kick it out. We can shut the door But we can't stop you from opening the door. Oh absolutely and then she had a broken foot yep So her broken foot she was recovering pretty well, so luckily it didn't seem like it was like a shattered broken foot And I have the object fell off the counter while she was home alone. It wasn't a Odd shaped object it wasn't something that would normally fall they counted just a lot while she was standing there out of the blue and just Rokerfoot which made her feel more and more isolated and she was telling us essentially I mean she did cry opening up to realizing that we believe you and we will believe you that's a very important thing You're like if you are in any position like this or even close to this or if you just hear knocks at night and you're not scared Oh, we'll believe you will come look like literally I say this all the time if you say they're leprechauns in your basement We'll come look I've had to stop people on the phone and say take a deep breath Just tell me what's going on.
We're not gonna make fun of you because they're such a stigma around ghost hunting that some people who are truly afraid of things They can't explain their house. You know won't tell people Yeah, and telling us it's almost like we'll meet in our typing system right where we have type 2s that are being controlled and manipulated by a Type 3 you will hear us commonly say in investigations when one is identified like hey, you don't have to listen to them I know they're gonna say you can't talk to us. I know they're gonna make you feel like you're crazy You can't reach out to us right in the real world. You don't have to listen you can call us you can shoot us an email Message us on Facebook I've seen a couple people in Facebook groups just Venting about what's going on and saying I've staged my house and I've done this I've done that cleansing is part of it for sure But feeling confident and secure and setting your boundaries.
That's really what we're there to help do We can cleanse your house a million different ways. We can call every clergy on the planet, right? But unless we help you feel safe and confident we can't get you out of stage two And I believe that this gal that we're talking about now was in an early stage two Whiskey you and I have been to a home of young man who I believe is in mid to late stage two and And the problem is if you see these things happening and your family members start noticing these things happening And you've been to doctors and you've been to your therapist and they can't find anything call us because you get to a point where I Believe that this boy desperately desperately wants help But he's so afraid of these spirits that he feels like he can't get that and we can help him and This is a case that we're still working with and it's interesting to see where he's at when you're possessed You don't have to be possessed all the time This is something we will get into and the next podcast a little bit more Sometimes this gentleman is himself and he wants us to come over and he's very friendly and talk to us and I'll talk to us for a very long time And we almost have to make excuses to get out and other times we were supposed to go over there not too long ago But you know he told his parents I won't be here as they come and they were just devastated that he would let us over And I said that's not him talking that's not your son talking that's those entities talking So if you start to notice any of these things It's like anything the earlier you catch it the easier it is to take care of the longer you're in it The harder it can be the more insurance they can be so if you notice these things Please you don't call us call someone we would love for you to call us so we could come out and see what we can do And try to get to the root of everything But don't let it go too long because the longer you let it go The sooner you're gonna get into that last and final stage, which is really really hard to get out of I think one thing in particular just about that other case that we mentioned and a good reminder to everybody is the Dynamic in the family there is pretty rough between both of them outside of all of this going on So you can't all we I know you want to and it's obviously we care a lot about those We love and taking a forceful approach Like you have to do this and you're doing it because you care sometimes that can drive the wedge Further that can make people more isolated like you have to get them on board and have it be their choice To a certain point if you really want to force it on them just get them Don't focus on telling them we have to come over just gonna talk to us most of the time once they talk to any of us They're like oh, they're not gonna come like waterboard me in my house and say There's a saying you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink if you have someone in your home It's an alcoholic red reg addict. You can't force them to get off of it It's got to be their decision.
They've got to be on board. They've got to want to it's gonna be the same thing You can't force anybody to do anything In general my kids will say that I force them to do a lot of things But you know that's life But yeah, you've got someone that you know that you think needs help talk with them just have us come over and just chat and We are pretty good about dealing with some difficult Stuff so we will be gentle. We will be tactful What'd you say that your kids are feeling oppressed by yes? I'm trying to do yes Yes, you can just give him what's that org I'm just gonna get burned a stage and pull us on to around Raven so far.
She's still around so I think she's good Yeah, I get a little I get a little twitchy every once in a while And she says something about the smell she has to leave I don't know Never let's assault off the door until she walks out We also like what we're dealing with like I mentioned cleansing's a multi-faceted thing right if we show up and We find out most of the time we kind of know in advance We find out that whatever steps you want to take to cleanse don't we're not able to do that for some reason We're not practicing of that religion or whatever. We will help you find someone I'm we're not gonna just abandon you if it's not our way or the highway right we do our best bet And we still need to find someone that kind of aligns with your belief system We have a lot of people out there. It's a big community. We can reach out and find someone that can help you of course Postafarian keeps coming up at libraries.
I might struggle with that one, but I'm willing to bring some air in air and see what we can do for Your demons It's the only one that works, you know, so our main topic was brought to you by Oteos. I've been there for a long time I need to go again. They're fantastic. Hey, we're open with a bunch of cars actually and at their small little location I saw the other day I feel like they're moving somewhere else haven't seen cars there, but they're actually We're full They are moving but they are planning on keeping that open whether it's a second of tails or if they're gonna have it be something else They're not sure yet.
I just need to add a drive through to that little building. I feel like It's delicious though. I Don't have any segments. I have a segment in the whiskey barrel here I don't have a piece of equipment that I want to talk about but what I did want to say was talk about just some experiences I've had recently number one our library presentations are popping off like A lot there are tons of people showing up at them and they are so much fun I've had a lot of fun and our dead talks have been really fun as well at our actual events But what I've noticed recently is people are way more open to talking to us about equipment I have seen people try to debunk things on public hunts and at library presentations This is not an open roll call to come like you try to kick down my door every time a thing flashes like wow That could have been there it always can be a lot of things But it was really nice.
It was really nice to see people more than usual starting to apply some like Open-minded skeptic type behaviors, which we generally in our public cons I feel like we get kind of both severe outside of the spectrum of closed-minded believers or closed-minded cynics and open-minded believers We don't get a lot of people who are like I just want to figure it out I've just been running it a lot more those and that's really cool So shout out to all the people the library even with my little flashing lights that I've been having fun with and I have Million lights so if you need a month investigation It's up We're starting to apply some paranormal theory to these little lights So we'll see if we do better and follow up there But it's like hey does the temperature change affect it like can it expand and contract the metal and I was like well To expand and contract metal that much it have to be pretty significant but it can impact resistance right with which maybe is What's making it turn on off? I don't know if it's moving the battery I just gave them the all the I don't know is about how it could work alongside the yeah, that's possible So just making whiskey proud is all I wanted to say Another shameless little plug what we're talking about library presentations We mentioned it earlier, but I'll say it again We do have one more so it's at the American Fork Library on October 23rd So if you want to see what all the fuss is about that's gonna be the last one that we do this year that I am aware of as far as spooky Season is concerned and they are telling the last one they could only see 75 people But they had over 250 people that wanted to be there So we might have to open that up for a two-nighter I will tell you if you come to the American Fork one if you want a chance at hearing a paranormal knock That's the one they told me about it. We went down there. Thanks.
Thank you guys for coming out so much It has been so much fun to answer questions about my equipment and everything in person and hopefully soon I will be designing some equipment to sell from the laboratory Which is currently only been open to the transfer normal so your eyes out there But if you don't have any equipment yet, and you want to have something to support the crew check out Our supernatural hour swag and advanced burner calm also be sure to follow us on YouTube tick-tock everywhere Facebook say hi to us like our posts Moon or eat them Let us know if you guys say anything and if you have anywhere that you like wants to go or you want us to talk about Talk it in there we can reach us any way you want and we will we'll chat about it Okay, some stuff in the junk drawer there even I do and the junk drawer is sponsored by the SFU ish Performing arts and cultural events center pace or as I like to call it the huish So our junk drawer today is about the world's most haunted doll this haunted doll looks very dim It's an antique toy Mindful very nice is it even cute see you're pretty cute see and that wasn't my word So it's on the phone article very dim your they think is possessed by a jilted bride named Elizabeth and Elizabeth because she's a jilted bride she does not like married men so she has allegedly scratched yanked attacked 17 gentlemen in a fit of fury So There's a paranormal investigator by the name of Lee sphere case from the UK he actually purchased a stall on eBay for a thousand dollars I'm not recommending buying haunted stuff off of you, but you don't know what you're gonna get Also not for a thousand dollars right and if you want to buy a hundred dollars for a thousand dollars check out Advanced print over the comm I'm listing up right now But he has a bridal doll room in his museum and he said that when he was in that room He was left with the severe scratches to his back He thinks that it's the most haunted doll in the United Kingdom So he said that when he went into his room He had a burning sensation on his back and he didn't really think much about it And this is something that we have told people on investigations is when you get a scratch from an entity It doesn't feel like your typical scratch. It almost feels like burn I don't know for me It's like if you have a sunburn and you kind of rub it on the inside of your clothes It just has that burning feel but not like oh my gosh I just got scratched so they went in and someone said oh my god scratches on my back And then as soon as he mentioned that the burning sensation moved down and he said that the marks that Elizabeth's left Almost like a pentagram on his back They say it hates married men and it leaves women alone But his fiance will not go in the room by herself anyway, just because it creeps her up Why does he have a room of bright dogs like literally just dogs look like brides That's what I want to say and I say watching this guy because I feel like they should Look into the picture of the room and he's got this doll kind of in a Plexiglas box with some lights around it Yeah, it looks like there are some other bright dolls in there. Oh, yeah, I don't know maybe bright dolls have a Hire native his wife. He doesn't want to go in there because it's weird in general.
It's a pretty doll It looks kind of Gibson girl like you know what? He's married them. Oh, yeah, it's true. I did something.
Maybe I should get a bright dog room I Sound like the polar opposite of the ghost we encountered at moonshed Vidity for very much so Okay, so now we get to our investigations we have so many of them and if we just go super in depth on any of them This is gonna be like the supernatural two hours We'll try to keep them brief, but interesting I'll just start with the one that I ended up doing by myself because everyone had to drop out with other things It was actually my hair ladies house. I've been out to her house before while I go to her house like every five weeks Get my hair done, but there's been times I've been out there She's okay come check this out or come check that out and she had a couple legit things Chad and I went out there one time and she had a creepy pedophile ghost that was semi-stocking her daughter So we were able to get him to leave and her sister actually had something pretty dark in her house But her sister is kind of into the stuff and she was able to get it out herself But my hair lady felt like it had followed her whole and so I said what's going on They were having some really bad dreams They were having especially the little girl the older daughter could see a shadow figure kind of jump out the window Discs of creepy feels and so we went out there and she has a Native American female spirit that lives in her home Kind of as a protector she signed with her the spirit they call her Naomi and we were talking to Naomi Naomi really liked anything That was a green light she really liked to turn on and touch but through Instruments that we set out through dowsing rods The answers that we got and that we were able to ascertain from that night was that The dreams were not paranormal there had been a spirit in the house that the daughter had seen But it was just what we call a passer-through it wasn't one that stayed there habitually and It was really only the Native American female that was in the house So can spirits cause bad dreams absolutely, but just because you have a bad dream doesn't mean that it's paranormal Sometimes you just have bad dreams But some people bring those bad dreams into the real world at which kind of makes it feel like it's paranormal Because seriously and then you hate everybody around you that was in your dream Right so I think the most recent one we did as a group was the Chapman Library With you what was we were on different teams. What was your team's? experience First of all the entire audience got to experience whiskey doing the slideshow which was quite an adventure.
I think It was an adventure for them for sure. Yeah, we split up in a group We got almost no activity in the basement which was interesting there was a ghost there and any there that whenever I would talk about something Worked it would set it off right then I was talking about cat balls turn on the cat ball But down the thermal leak detector and be like alright here I am and walk away would not give any communication It was almost just like I don't want to make this guy look crazy. So I'm just I'm gonna turn this on once and that's it Upstairs however was a different story. I was able to use my little flashlights They're just on flashlights They don't have a switch you just screw them on the light them up and it was turning them on and off in responses and questions Which was great and then it started using the REM pod that I have and the same time as I only had one light on me I didn't know why but it was using that kind of for yes to know and then it would go stand in different places We also got again for kind of the first time in the public area a hotter than room temperature response Which was interesting.
I don't know if temperatures are getting colder outside and ghosts are getting hotter Ghost warming is that a thing? I don't know but yeah, it's a good time. Love that library. They're so nice there That's always an amazing hunt so ours was almost exactly opposite.
We were getting a lot of activity in the basement and We had k2s going off. We heard a lot of disembodied voices. We were talking to a little girl She would walk in front of the thermal leak detector several times She turned it blue after a while we used some dowsing rods and there was a spirit there that wanted to talk to a lady who only spoke Spanish And interestingly enough like half of our groups spoke Spanish so they were able to interpret It was interesting because Kristi was holding the dowsing rods while the lady was asking questions And we asked are you getting answers that you would think you would be getting and are they making sense and they did which was amazing? Three yes and no questions we were able to and some help with the dowsing rods we were able to find out what this little girl's favorite book was on the shelf If I remember I think someone got touched down there Oh, and then one of the guests was using the sls and captured some stick people on the sls That weren't attributed to other people in the room or wasn't trying to make a chair Yeah, it was just like it's the wall so that was kind of cool And then when we went upstairs for us it got really quiet We had some emf go off a little bit Oh downstairs we had a lot of emf lights go on and not just go on but in response to questions and talking to it At one point it would make it go up to like the yellow light Which is just a couple of the on light and if you have it spiked it goes red And I said okay, anybody who wants to share energy they can share their energy Let's see it turn up to red and sure enough about 10 seconds later it hit red When we went upstairs really the only thing we got was some hits with the flat on the flashlight It was actually kind of quite for us upstairs All right, and then we had the springville library Which the the dead talk was amazing the most fun thing about that dead talk is when we started showing the very first Pity evidence there was like this collective gasp in the audience, which is kind of cool They were a very engaging group and just with how everything was set up there We weren't able to really do any investigating officially in the library Which is usually not the case we ran over time with questions and stuff but we did do a little impromptu investigation outside And I don't know that we got a lot.
I think we got the cat wall to come on once whiskey What else did we have out there? We got cat balls thermal leak detector a couple k2 responses and then the dowsing rods you and christy had out But yeah, listen if we don't get a chance to investigate we'll make a chance to investigate That's the moral of that story. I won't leave you guys behind Yeah, there's a couple people like oh we came for the investigation. We're like we got you we'll go outside There's ghosts.
There's sure enough there were um so then there was the hiwish Moon what did you experience at the hiwish Whiskey and I were setting up cameras downstairs in the basement area and we were hearing like some crash type of sounds and we're like What the heck was that? So that happened and we had our dead talk that was fun and something that was really memorable for me was we were upstairs in this kind of office type of room or board room and we were doing the estus method and I was the first one to be under in the estus method and I kept hearing Something probably dark, but he sounded like venom, you know if you watch the venom movie and the way he talks You know I got a girl It was really fun and then Sadly we kept hearing like this women's scream in the headphones as well. So yeah, that was kind of sad But we got some k2 movements one of our patrons came and he had his spirit box on and I have that spirit I mean that motion sensor that plays the Ghostbusters song and we were asking it to light that off Well, we did not hear it from my motion sensor But we've heard what sounded just like you could go to the Ghostbusters song in the spirit box for I don't know a couple seconds It was like are you playing games with us or what's going on? It's pretty funny I was gonna say it to the estus method part was really cool for me Just because it's one of those you have to take our words for it, right?
We could just be sitting there saying whatever and most the time when we make the offer to people Nobody says yes And in a lot of places that we investigate we don't have the opportunity to do it because we're either alone And we have to keep an eye on every putting the room make sure nobody's gonna hurt themselves on anything accidentally And in this area, it's just like a boardroom basically So even if it was just one of us we probably could have done it But there was two of us with that group and people volunteered in the group to do it Obviously had nothing to do with us and they all had experiences With the spirit box repeating it describing the same things like it was awesome It was really awesome. Shout out to that group for participating because sometimes people just sit there and stare at us Like you don't have to be scared of the equipment. Yeah, it was fun in fun group Awesome one thing I always tell people in public investigations because my favorite thing is when people say well you ask the spirit this It's like they can hear you as well as they can hear me So my group is pretty good too. And I'm gonna say as far as the qish goes We had a lot of just the regular things we had emf lighting up.
We had the thermal detector went off and on I've got my emf that's like a little lantern. We got it to go on We heard some disembody voices, but I think for us our group the most interesting thing we had I think the plumbing room is probably at least in my experience there One of the most haunted places at the qish in the plumbing room is like the room furthest furthest back where there's just plumbing. That's the name And we were back there. We were getting a lot of things a lot of activity And then we decided we didn't have a whole lot of time left in that rotation So we decided to just go in and try a different room And so we went to one of the more front one of the more forward rooms downstairs And we were just setting up equipment and we heard the sound of like one of those metal fold-up chairs kind of clank and move And so I thought there was someone back there and I first I said did anybody else hear that or was it just me?
Like no And so I walked back there and the way that basement is If there's someone there unless they're trying to hide from you, you can see anybody and everybody there There's not very many places you could hide if you wanted to And so I walked and there's nobody back there, but it definitely sounded like someone moving one of those chairs, which was kind of cool When I was packing up the basement too, I didn't hear anything slam when I was down there But when I was last one just walking out something slammed down there and it made almost the same sound That moon and I heard and it's not the door that closes above there because we also heard that but yeah It was a good time One thing I'm sad about though is I didn't hit record on the cameras when we were setting it up We were across the room from the camera feed that we set up still haven't reviewed it So sorry, but I literally saw some things like go flying past the camera And I was like oh, I just saw something and it was very famous presentation so I can really walk over there And then afterwards I checked and it was recording so oh no thank you always hit record We also We also heard like my whole group. I was with whiskey and we were in the theater room and we heard some sort of ratcheting noise It was so weird and nobody was over there. No idea what it was Yeah, we actually went outside and Chad was talking to the owner at that time And they also heard it in the direction like between us No idea what it was nobody was able to explain it's not a sound they were heard before it just sounded like someone getting to work Then I was like well, they better start working faster. There's a lot of work to do All right, and then whiskey you had a little impromptu investigation in your backyard I sure did recently a solar storm came through and the aurora balla I was again visible in this low in northern hemisphere So I was just outside nix on our team actually was over watching the appeal juice was pretty decent You guys can't see it.
I know you guys can ask but we decided to see what we could see My mom had actually been out in the yard and she heard scratching going along the fence and not like a dog like somebody with claws Basically walking along the fence, which was very odd and it kind of like put her off I've we've had paranormal experiences in my coldest act before don't know why I don't know how it's still a mystery We're figuring it out about a drone checked out this rounding area recently legally I stayed with my property Don't worry FAA, but we started while we were standing there We started hearing something like stepping through the grass like just very slow methodical Like they were trying to sneak up on us. There's a motion light to the left never went off It got to the point where it was so loud and sounded so convincingly like somebody walking around and lurking there That I went and looked and nix followed me because it's like who the heck is in my backyard the dogs went inside There's no one outside except for us. There should be nobody back here And no one was there We kept going when we got around the corner. We're standing there We started hearing steps in my planter and I was like, all right.
There's a bird in the planner and got my flashlight out a snake Something it's late at night and snakes usually aren't moving around late at night. Lizards aren't right. They're cold blooded They don't do that but I was looking anyways, there's nothing and then literally with the flashlight on we hear the footsteps Walk through the leaves the leaves are not disturbed It's not windy But you hear the leaves and sticks moving that you're looking at and see nothing happening and it's walking around and just walks Right up to me and stops like the sounds literally sound like something unseen just walked up to me holding the flashlight and stopped And then I heard it a different spot So I move around the corner of the planner and just looking and looking and looking We hear the footsteps again walking to the point where I'm holding my flashlight And one very foot-shaped specific spot of leaves and sticks just pops up straight up into the air Not sideways not left right just straight up into the air which didn't make any sense I have never seen anything like that before I've nixed it and never seen anything like that before it was very strange So Yeah, I don't know. I still have it I feel like I'm on an episode of like untold mysteries every time I'm in my backyard at night now Because I'm like what do we see the dogs act weird to stuff?
We know that not far from my house. There is some dead Pioneer children buried I'm kind of wondering what else is buried in the area I think we need to come investigate your backyard Yeah, barbecue next season next season when it's warmer outside barbecue time, right? All right, and then last investigation that we did we cannot We didn't sign a non-disclosure document, but we did kind of a verbal non-disclosure agreement This is something that castle put together and he invited me and whiskey along with some other investigators from other groups and some friends of his to go do this investigation quite a large building Whiskey and I were in the same team with a couple other people and we started in a room upstairs where there had been Several people say that they had seen a little girl that should not have been there And you know when they asked other people we've seen this little girl Is she supposed to be there the answer? No, so they go up to the room to talk to the little girl and she's gone and she's not anywhere on the cameras that are in the building So we actually started up in that room.
We were getting a little bit of activity with lights She liked turning the lights on a lot of k2 activity with my little lantern emf She liked to turn it to it was a blue that she liked whiskey. Uh, yeah, I think she liked green again Yeah, she was like an all the green thing so she kept lighting that up then we went to another place in the upstairs that would have been in the upstairs of the location and We had some things set up half of our group at that point decided to stay in and talk to the little girl Well, we moved around whiskey. What was your experience in that other room? I actually was the one that brought us to go over there because I had heard a sound that sounded like somebody messing with the blinds And the blinds in the room we were in weren't the type of blinds that you could make those sound made that sound So I just brushed it off but I kept hearing stuff at the far side of the building So I went and checked it out by myself one point and when we ran out time I was like, hey Let's just go check over there when we got over there They revealed that there had been experiences over there And in the one of the offices we found the blinds that could have made the sound and that's the one that we got some activity in We kind of ran out of time at the top floor with them so we had to move to the basement after that but it was interesting There's definitely something up there.
Oh, absolutely once we got to the basement It got I don't know in my opinion. I got a little bit quiet. We were getting some activity on K2s I know whiskey you and I both did turns going under on the Estes method with the spare box I think that the most compelling piece of evidence that we got from down there There's a little kitchen area and we heard a tap like something tapping the counter in the kitchen and immediately after the ITC device said kitchen and that definitely Rattled our guests from the building there because they're like what the heck I told it's weird off Well, and the interesting thing about I like to call it the talky box is a lot of times It'll just generate things based on electrical fields it gets, you know technically if a ghost can manipulate it It'll shoot outwards But when you get something like that to me That's evidence because the likelihood of getting the word kitchen when you hear a noise in the kitchen is one and I don't know I'll really a lot that's not just gonna happen It is one in 1500 to pull that word out of the dictionary and then the odds of a spike happening at the same time Anyways, it is pretty low I would say especially because we didn't get a lot of words coming out of there that made sense and like Raymond said It's the big thing with equipment like that is it's just a fancy beep It's a deep that sounds like a word based off of an environmental reading the key with all things is intelligent response And that's what we saw there. Nobody even said kitchen.
I had to say is there a kitchen down here after it said kitchen Because I was trying to figure like why did it say kitchen out of the blue? They're like that's what that sound just was I was like oh I turn my flashlight Which was a great surprise to see in the dark when I turn my flashlight on compared to some other things we have seen when we turn the lights on so Yeah, good time game some answers and yeah, think they're happy with us Absolutely they may or may not invite us back at some point. We'll see how that very cool That's what I'm going for. Okay, so I'm in a dance company with a group of ladies and we had our annual dance performance this past saturday So of course you want to do your best right when you perform in front of your friends and your family So what did I do?
I contacted Laura Dong to do hit no therapy session with some of the ladies in my group that wanted to dance to their best potential So it literally gave us clarity of thought and helped us focus and take the stress out of performing compared to like other years that we've I've done it. I've spent a lot but it definitely helps me dance to the best of my ability Um, we record like a little session and we can listen to it over and over and get in the right headspace for performing So she can work with large groups and help enhance performance abilities whether it be work or sports or other group related Things that need positive thought programming. So Go to new. Don hit note therapy.com and check out all her services All right guys It's time for moon tells with moon and days moon tell I got the idea from my husband He was listening to the radio on his way to work one day and he heard about moon lake.
Have you guys heard about moon lake? It's like in the uintas it is yeah So it is nearby skin walker ranch, which makes it even more interesting, right? Yep, it's in the unit you win a basin and some of people consider it the most haunted place in Utah Which I think that's a really hard thing to compete for but there's a said to be a little girl To have drowned the lake and is seen walking along the beach soaking wet and shivering with her blue lips And she'll I know it's so sad she'll sometimes ask people for help and then just disappear as legend has it It's a hot spot for you fo sightings, which would make sense It's it's since it's near skin walker ranch And then legend has it that are there some lost spanish gold that is allegedly hidden in the mountains up there while the Spanish traveled through Colorado from New Mexico and then into Utah the new spanish board canyon everything and There's legends that there's some gold up there. So that's interesting and would be fun to go find right They seem to see phantom lights on the water and there's no logical source in the middle of the night They people hear disembodied voices they see apparitions and another weird thing is They say that they can't find the bottom of the lake like no one can go deep enough to find the bottom of the lake Which kind of makes it interesting?
But there's children that has are said to have died there and they haunt Nearby in the water and laughing and playing and there's also a lake monster named moony moon lake so I want to go up there if there is a Motel or hotel nearby because I don't like to champ and I don't want no bears coming. I don't want no people coming into my tent You know, there's no protection there for me, but it just sounds really interesting. So I might have to go check that out someday No, absolutely. It sounds like it's gonna have a tough time competing with my gold attack We already have dead kids.
We have UFO sightings I feel like we've checked off all of those boxes in just like a few hours taking out outside my house So exactly I've seen some weird stuff heard some weird stuff in his coldest act as I was like packing up my car to go home It's crazy moon coldest act I'm buying tickets for the next public public investigation of my gold attack now I like it. All right. So now I'm from Florida Okay, we had two hurricanes in two weeks. Yay for that some historical events going on but really big deal about it is that Tampa has been hit directly by her cane since 1921 and People around here think that it is protected by the Tocobaga Indian tribe, Native American tribe And they were they have like sacred sites where they have like burials So the explorer Hernandez Soto, so we have four to seven all that For an episode he was searching for the fountain of youth supposedly it is here But he encountered us the tribe in safety harbor, which is about I don't know 30 minutes somewhere I live and he encountered them in 1539 And the blessings and the fountain of youth supposedly is what protects Tampa Bay So recently the hurricane that came right for us Something that people were blaming it on is that someone had put a house near one of these sacred Little burial sites and someone wanted to pull a little driveway So they dug into one of them and found a skeleton And that was within this past year.
So now everyone blames this poor soul Oh my god That hate mail and stuff. I don't know I I need to look into school. I don't know but so now a lot of people were going to the sites one of them is in this park nearby And they were putting like blessings and here's some flowers and you know little things to help like say We're sorry. We're sorry.
Please protect us again. And so that's what's been going on But we definitely did have a hurricane now date. We did not get the surge as high as they thought It's supposed to go up to 15 feet high, but it didn't go that high, but this is not great So that is surrounding my area. We have to talk about a tribe Oh, well, I hope that you've appeased the curse and don't get any more hurricanes Yes, me too.
Um, we'll we'll find out when the season's over the end of November So we still got some time left have more historical events See the raising water tables were causing some ice to bolt out of the ground Oh, god, I don't know if that's true. I but I saw the headlines Oh, well, that's not pleasant either Um So, I mean Tampa right now and There's a lot of areas that'll just will never be the same going back to school We haven't even gone back yet tomorrow teachers get to go back for our area for Hillsborough County We're the eighth largest district in america and it's been taking a while to get back to school So I don't know we'll see we'll see what happens But we're hoping we are done with that for the season or forever that'd be great another hundred years Happening you Tommy off or they call them harkens so I All right, well stay spooky my honey friends. Hey have a good night. Talk to you guys later.
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