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EPISODE · Jul 20, 2026 · 41 MIN

Optimize Your Brand, Not Just Your Website — Sonia Urquilla (SEO by Sonia)

from The Unscripted SEO Interview Podcast · host Jeremy Rivera

Sonia Urquilla watched her father’s local shop close because nobody could find it. No profile listing, no website. She now runs SEO by Sonia and teaches female founders and service providers a framework she calls brand optimisation: get found and mentioned everywhere your audience looks, rather than ranking one page. Key takeaways Brand optimisation is wider than SEO and narrower than marketing. It pulls in PR, Reddit, podcasts, citations and local events, all pointed at being mentioned. One client went from about a hundred attendees to more than a thousand. A press release, ads, email and Reddit working together, not one channel doing it alone. Online service providers ignore the local goldmine. Sponsoring local charities and events earns links, trust and leads at the same time. Roughly eighty per cent of local businesses never reply to a message. The cheapest growth available is answering the enquiries you already get. Vet an SEO by asking whether they do their own SEO. It is the fastest question there is and it disqualifies a lot of people. AI levelled the field, and fear is keeping small businesses off it. The scaremongering costs more than the tools. On this page What brand optimisation means The masterclass that went from a hundred to a thousand The local goldmine online providers ignore The follow-up gap How to vet an SEO People, ideas and sources mentioned Questions this episode answers Go deeper What brand optimisation means Sonia’s framing starts from a practical observation. Her clients are coaches and consultants whose customers do not begin with a search box. They ask a friend, they read a thread, they hear a name on a podcast, and only then do they search. So the target is mentions rather than positions. Press, Reddit, podcast appearances, directory citations and local event presence all count, and all of them feed the search that eventually happens. It is personal for her. Her father’s shop closed while being invisible online, and the specifics of that absence, no listing and no site, are what she now fixes first. The masterclass that went from a hundred to a thousand The case study she gives is a client masterclass that had been drawing around a hundred people. The rebuild was not clever. It was four ordinary channels run at the same time and pointed at one date. A press release, which produced the citations. Paid ads, which produced the volume. Email, which produced the people who were always going to come. Reddit, which produced the people who had never heard of her. Attendance went past a thousand. The lesson is not that any one of those is powerful. It is that none of them was working alone. The local goldmine online providers ignore The businesses she works with sell online and therefore assume local marketing is not for them. Sonia disagrees, and her argument is about the by-products rather than the customers. Sponsoring a local charity or event gets you a link from an organisation nobody can accuse of selling links, a mention in local press, and a room full of people who now recognise the name. She points to directories such as Zip Local as part of the same citation layer. The follow-up gap Her most damning number is about replies. Roughly eight in ten local businesses never respond to a message they receive. That is not a ma...

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