EPISODE · Feb 7, 2025 · 1H 16M
ORIGINAL SIN-Pt. 2-IF WE DO MORE GOOD IN OUR LIFE THAN EVIL ARE WE STILL CONSIDERED TOTALLY DEPRAVED
from MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN BY BRINGING BACK THE CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE OF EARLY AMERICA: GEORGE WHITEFIELD · host Wayne Sencenbaugh
HOPEFULLY THE READING OF JONATHON EDWARDS TREATISE ON ORIGINAL SIN WILL PUT QUESTIONS INTO OUR MIND TO HELP US AS AMERICANS TO AGAIN HAVE A NATIONAL DISCUSSION ON ORIGINAL SIN, FOR WE CANNOT BE SAVED APART FROM FEELING THE GUILT OF ORIGINAL SIN, THAT WE MIGHT SEE THE FUTILITY OF OUR FIG LEAVES OF MORALITY, AND THUS HUNGER AND THIRST AFTER THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD BY WHICH IS OUR TICKET INTO HEAVEN, WHICH IS THE ONLY TICKET INTO HEAVEN. THUS IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER LISTENING TO JONATHON EDWARDS, POUND AWAY ON EVERY NUANCE OF ORIGINAL SIN, THAT IS A GOOD THING, FOR WE AS AMERICANS NEED AGAIN TO GET THIS DISCUSSION ON THE FRONT BURNER IN AMERICA, FOR WITHOUT FEELING THE WEIGHT OF ORIGINAL SIN NO MAN CAN BE SAVED. SOME QUESTIONS WE CAN BE MUSING UPON:THOSE WHO DENY THE SELF EVIDENT TRUTH OF ORIGINAL SIN, WILL ASK THE QUESTION SOMETIMES: IF MAN DOES MORE GOOD DEEDS THAN EVIL DEEDS HOW COULD A MAN BE TOTALLY DEPRAVED AND EVIL BY NATURE?OR HOW IS IT A MAN CAN DO ANY GOOD AT ALL IF HE IS TOTALLY EVIL? WHAT IF A SHIP’S MISSION WAS TO TAKE ITS PASSENGERS FROM NEW YORK HARBOR TO ENGLAND BUT THREE QUARTERS THE WAY THROUGH THE JOURNEY, THE PASSENGER SHIP SINKS AND ALL DIE, WOULD THE JOURNEY, BECAUSE IT MADE MORE THAN HALF WAY TO ENGLAND BE CONSIDERED A GOOD JOURNEY, OR BAD JOURNEY?WHAT ABOUT THE JOURNEY OF LIFE? WHAT IF WE LIVED THE FIRST 3/4’s OF OUR LIFE WITHOUT SIN, AND AT THE 3/4’s MARK WE SINNED, WOULD OUR LIFE JOURNEY BE CONSIDERED A SUCCESSFUL JOURNEY BY GOD, MAKING US FIT FOR HEAVEN?DOES GOD DEMAND PERFECTION OR DOES GOD BELIEVE IN PARTIAL CREDIT?Jonathon EDWARDS is writing this Treatise on Original Sin against a man with a P. H. D., DR. TAYLOR. HOW CAN THIS DOCTOR TAYLOR BE SO IGNORANT AND USE SUCH FALLIBLE ARGUMENTS IF HE IS THAT SMART? JONATHON EDWARDS WRITES:Surely that tendency, which in effect, is an infallible tendency to eternal destruction, is an infinitely and dreadful and pernicious frame of mind. It would be much more absurd to suppose, that such a state of nature is not bad, under a notion of men doing more honest and kind things than evil ones: the state of that ship is good, for crossing the Atlantic Ocean, though such cannot hold together through the voyage, but will infallibly flounder and sink, under a notion that it probably will go a great partof the way before it sinks….More absurd, than it would be to affirm, that a wife is a good wife to him, though she committed adultery, and that with the slaves and scoundrels sometimes, yet she did not do this so often as she did the duties of a wife. SECTION III OVERVIEWThat propensity, which has been proved to be in the nature of all mankind, must be a very evil, depraved, and pernicious propensity; making it manifest, that the soul of man, as it is by nature, is in a corrupt, fallen, and ruined state; which is the other part of the consequence, drawn from the proposition laid down in the first section.SECTION 3THE question to be considered, in order to determine whether man’s nature be depraved and ruined, is not, Whether he is inclined to perform as many good deeds as bad ones? But, to which of these two he preponderates, in the frame of his heart, and the state of his nature, a state of innocence and righteousness, and favor with God; or a state of sin, guiltiness, and abhorrence in the sight of God? — Persevering sinless righteousness, or else the guilt of sin, is the alternative, on the decision of which depends — according to the nature and truth of things, as they are in themselves, and according to the rule of right, and of perfect justice — man being approved and accepted of his Maker and eternally blessed as good; or his being rejected, and cursed as bad. And therefore the determination of the tendency of man’s heart and nature, with respect to these terms, is that which is to be looked at, in order to determine whether his nature is good or evil, pure or corrupt,
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HOPEFULLY THE READING OF JONATHON EDWARDS TREATISE ON ORIGINAL SIN WILL PUT QUESTIONS INTO OUR MIND TO HELP US AS AMERICANS TO AGAIN HAVE A NATIONAL DISCUSSION ON ORIGINAL SIN, FOR WE CANNOT BE SAVED APART FROM FEELING THE GUILT OF ORIGINAL SIN, THAT WE MIGHT SEE THE FUTILITY OF OUR FIG LEAVES OF MORALITY, AND THUS HUNGER AND THIRST AFTER THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD BY WHICH IS OUR TICKET INTO HEAVEN, WHICH IS THE ONLY TICKET INTO HEAVEN. THUS IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS AFTER LISTENING TO JONATHON EDWARDS, POUND AWAY ON EVERY NUANCE OF ORIGINAL SIN, THAT IS A GOOD THING, FOR WE AS AMERICANS NEED AGAIN TO GET THIS DISCUSSION ON THE FRONT BURNER IN AMERICA, FOR WITHOUT FEELING THE WEIGHT OF ORIGINAL SIN NO MAN CAN BE SAVED. SOME QUESTIONS WE CAN BE MUSING UPON:THOSE WHO DENY THE SELF EVIDENT TRUTH OF ORIGINAL SIN, WILL ASK THE QUESTION SOMETIMES: IF MAN DOES MORE GOOD DEEDS THAN EVIL DEEDS HOW COULD A MAN BE TOTALLY DEPRAVED AND EVIL BY NATURE?OR HOW IS IT A MAN CAN DO ANY GOOD AT ALL IF HE IS TOTALLY EVIL? WHAT IF A SHIP’S MISSION WAS TO TAKE ITS PASSENGERS FROM NEW YORK HARBOR TO ENGLAND BUT THREE QUARTERS THE WAY THROUGH THE JOURNEY, THE PASSENGER SHIP SINKS AND ALL DIE, WOULD THE JOURNEY, BECAUSE IT MADE MORE THAN HALF WAY TO ENGLAND BE CONSIDERED A GOOD JOURNEY, OR BAD JOURNEY?WHAT ABOUT THE JOURNEY OF LIFE? WHAT IF WE LIVED THE FIRST 3/4’s OF OUR LIFE WITHOUT SIN, AND AT THE 3/4’s MARK WE SINNED, WOULD OUR LIFE JOURNEY BE CONSIDERED A SUCCESSFUL JOURNEY BY GOD, MAKING US FIT FOR HEAVEN?DOES GOD DEMAND PERFECTION OR DOES GOD BELIEVE IN PARTIAL CREDIT?Jonathon EDWARDS is writing this Treatise on Original Sin against a man with a P. H. D., DR. TAYLOR. HOW CAN THIS DOCTOR TAYLOR BE SO IGNORANT AND USE SUCH FALLIBLE ARGUMENTS IF HE IS THAT SMART? JONATHON EDWARDS WRITES:Surely that tendency, which in effect, is an infallible tendency to eternal destruction, is an infinitely and dreadful and pernicious frame of mind. It would be much more absurd to suppose, that such a state of nature is not bad, under a notion of men doing more honest and kind things than evil ones: the state of that ship is good, for crossing the Atlantic Ocean, though such cannot hold together through the voyage, but will infallibly flounder and sink, under a notion that it probably will go a great partof the way before it sinks….More absurd, than it would be to affirm, that a wife is a good wife to him, though she committed adultery, and that with the slaves and scoundrels sometimes, yet she did not do this so often as she did the duties of a wife. SECTION III OVERVIEWThat propensity, which has been proved to be in the nature of all mankind, must be a very evil, depraved, and pernicious propensity; making it manifest, that the soul of man, as it is by nature, is in a corrupt, fallen, and ruined state; which is the other part of the consequence, drawn from the proposition laid down in the first section.SECTION 3THE question to be considered, in order to determine whether man’s nature be depraved and ruined, is not, Whether he is inclined to perform as many good deeds as bad ones? But, to which of these two he preponderates, in the frame of his heart, and the state of his nature, a state of innocence and righteousness, and favor with God; or a state of sin, guiltiness, and abhorrence in the sight of God? — Persevering sinless righteousness, or else the guilt of sin, is the alternative, on the decision of which depends — according to the nature and truth of things, as they are in themselves, and according to the rule of right, and of perfect justice — man being approved and accepted of his Maker and eternally blessed as good; or his being rejected, and cursed as bad. And therefore the determination of the tendency of man’s heart and nature, with respect to these terms, is that which is to be looked at, in order to determine whether his nature is good or evil, pure or corrupt,
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