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That's a call time. That's Brianna. Betther calls in for relief. I don't.
If we tell people to putt starts at 230, they show up at 235. If we tell people to putt the pros. You're a comedian, which is usually you guys show up late for sure. No, that's an ego fucking move.
Like when you show up late to mine, that's an ego move. That's uh, you know, I know this shit. Jay Leno, more houses than any of us. I never laid.
He's the night before, he's doing reconnaissance. And then he shows up, he's early. Jay Leno was early. Jay Leno was so early, we had to sit there and walk the gardeners finish.
And we were sitting there watching the gardeners blow and cut shit. And he said, I don't worry about it. I mean, that's over the top. Yeah, what the fuck is this?
We had had thousands of white. It's rumble bean. Oh, okay. Well, I guess that's supposed to not be shocked for the time I see this thing.
That's right. What do you mean? It's, you know, it's immediate, hairless cat. It's, it's not well.
What do you mean it's not well? It's, God didn't create any species. He is a god. He's like a oasis.
He's like a god like. He's gonna disappear for 15 years and then. Did you see if they came back? Yeah, that's pretty cool.
They don't get a war on that. That's cute. It's nice. What are all those animals?
Those are hers, right? No, those are mine. I thought you said she had all these. She does.
Those are mine. She's got a horse and dogs. I can't tell anybody want to take a back. I'd say three months over under.
Oh, you missed that. You haven't heard the podcast with this shit head. Talking about how I'm definitely breaking up with my chicken and not to move in. Well, it's only being two and a half months.
I mean, let's be realistic. Yeah, but I'm a grown ass man. I know what I'm doing here. But you're acting like a high school kid.
Isn't it exciting? Yeah. So bad. This is such an amateur podcast.
All right. Okay. There you go. Hey, what's that?
You steal that bump. Are you so excited about it? Did you buy that? Yeah.
Wow. This is... Man, I didn't... I was going to say it for a little girl.
I got cotton candy. I think it's a light bulb. What do you do? I do.
I always have. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what you'll do. Welcome to the show for watches floor. I think my wrist is getting too jagged for a lift too many weights.
You ever get that problem? Oh my God. You, Bill Bixby on the Incredible Hulk? Yes, Bill Bixby.
That was his name, wasn't it? That's a ridiculous name. It is. You think that would just be funny?
No, I think his parents are probably on the level. Wait, there was a real big Bill Bixby? Isn't that... Or any of it seems like something you might know.
Who's the guy who played Bruce Banner on the Incredible Hulk TV show? I don't know. Well, there's your legitimate sunglasses that you wear in public. Yeah.
Wow. You think you're pretty hot, don't you? No, is it because of your illustrious career? It's because you turned on a smoke machine.
But you had those... No, I'm not on my... I'm on Amazon while I turn the smoke machine on. Well, because I had to walk in from the valet.
But I'm saying... You drove any car with those on? Yeah. Do you go out with those?
Are you trying to take the piss? No, I'm saying... I'm not saying you look bad, but I am saying you look cocky. Oh, really?
Yeah. You look like a star. Oh, good. Is that what you're trying to get across?
No, no, no, no. You just saw them, I liked them at the bottom. I think I'm still bad in here. I don't know a lot of people that wear pink.
I wear pink, but you've got pink and I respect that. Thank you. It's actually Plomeria is the name of the shoes, the color of Plomeria. And Brendan Chomp came up and he goes, I have the same sneakers.
Oh, no. And never wanted to wear them again. Yeah, that's... Wow, he really just sunk your battleship.
Yeah. Man. But what a douche comment that was to tell me what the precise color was. Yes.
That matched the sunglasses. Big time. I thought you would enjoy them. I do enjoy them, but they're not correct.
They are pink. If you're from the streetsets pink. Okay. If you're from somewhere like a really upper class, you would tell me that it is...
What is it? Plomeria. That's insane. Yeah.
They do compliment the salmon socks though. Thank you. Wait, is that salmon socks or is it another color that's more? He's never wrong.
He's never wrong. He brought up his dental floss thing a long time ago. I never got over it. What's that?
When you were like, this is just in, dentist say, dentist, dental floss doesn't work. And I was like, bullshit. Well, if I said dentist said that, then I didn't say that. I said dentist say that.
But you kind of backed it. Oh, did I? Yeah. I retract.
You really think so? And you were like, hey, that's what they're saying. And I was like, but I'm pretty sure I've got a thing out of my tooth. Well, I was like, oh, that's the first of all, that felt good.
And I don't have a sticky tooth anymore. Oh. And I'm like, do the... My sweet potatoes are ready.
That's the timer for sweet potatoes? Yeah. I'm from Australia. I hope you have to pay a royalty for that.
To Acadaca? Yeah. I mean, you know, first time I saw ACDC, I was in my mum's vagina. Is it like in a womb, I mean?
And then the second time I was four. And then the third time I was... Excuse me. Were you still in her vagina at age four?
No. You don't listen. You don't listen. You're the first time I saw her.
I was in her uterus to be specific. But I'm just... This is when I was four. I was out of her uterus and on the streets.
Okay. But I wouldn't ask a normal person that question. I thought my life is so messed up that I could see your mother... Is messing up in your womb for four years?
Right. To protect you from your death. I wanted to defend my... Yeah, but fair enough.
Thank you. Yeah. I was out of the youth and on the streets. Okay.
So I called my mum when I saw ACDC and I was 17 and I was like, Mum, guess what I just did? She was like, what mate? That's my impression of my mum. And I go, I saw ACDC.
She's like, you've already seen ACDC twice. And I was like, no, I haven't. She goes, yes, you have. Once in my stomach and once when you were four.
And I was like, okay, in the stomach doesn't count. And you can't tell me, I don't remember that because I was in your stomach. So how would I remember that? You know?
Well, maybe it had been brought up. Like, do you have Thanksgiving there in Australia? No, no, we have Kill the Indians. Kill the Aboriginals.
You have Christmas down there? Yeah. It's hot at Christmas time there. Ah.
There's summer Christmas. So maybe like one time around the family get together table. Somebody brought up ACDC and they said, uh, good on ya. You were in my womb.
That's what they say. My womb. Never say womb. They'd say you're in your...
Oh. Yeah, that'll be bleeped out for sure. Wow. They would say, really?
I was just thinking about this in earlier today. I was working on a joke and I was like, uh, uh, cause somebody, I got a new girlfriend as you told me that we're going to break up soon on your podcast. I'm looking forward to when that comes out. Tomorrow.
But she had an ex-boyfriend. And the first time I went to, I went to, she played piano at a bar and I was like, yeah, I'll go. And she's like, well, I gotta tell ya. I posted that I was going and my ex-boyfriend is coming cause he lived in the same area as her.
I was like, I don't care. Like, it's free country. And I guess when I was there, he afterwards, he was like, I could tell he's a little bit mad that I was there. And I was like, you guys broke up.
It's fair game, homie. And I'm not trying to buy nothing. This is over for you. Like, this is my turn.
I guess he calls her and goes, uh, you know, I get bad. Oh, is it bad? Bad. Negative dark vibes or something for me.
I was like, yeah, I can say, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. And he goes, and like, and he's clearly on steroids. And I was so pumped cause I'm not on steroids.
Right. But the ultimate compliment for a dickhead like me is when you accuse me of being on steroids and I'm 52 and I'm not on steroids. But I look like I'm on steroids. But you're taking testosterone.
Yeah, but that's on steroids, is it? I think it makes you bigger. Nah. Well, no, you can abuse it, but I got like, what don't you abuse?
Anything anymore. Okay. What the hell? I don't know if he's anything.
Here's, uh, okay. Here's the thing. Just a clarifying. You're running my compliment.
Okay. It's an asterisk. It's like the people that don't take steroids. Well, he got a fun 52.
I got to the dog that what I would level. I need my testosterone to be level. Yeah. You're level.
Okay. Good. So I'm not abusing it. Yeah.
That I know. And he's accusing me of being on steroids, which is kind of a young man's game. But you're not steroids if 50. I don't know if that's true.
Stallone pioneered the whole. Stallone's going to be on steroids until- Is that a HGH? Is that a steroid? Remember Stallone got caught?
This is 15 years ago. I think it was more than just HGH. In like a briefcase at the border and it was sort of like- Check that. Still scandalous at that point in time.
And what he said is, I understand how it seems to people in the outside world, but trust me, the shit that I'm doing right now is going to be like over the counter in 20 years. Stallone is still- Well, it's not over the counter, but you can't get it. He was wrong about that, but he is still walking and talking. It doesn't- you know, because we were all raised with like Lylal Zado.
It's just steroids and you die 18 months later. It was just steroids. Okay. But HGH is- is it a steroid?
It says your testosterone is considered an animal, an animal like steroid. Of course it matters. No testosterone as well. Well that makes sense.
Which is what you're taking, right? Is it like 60 then? Yeah. Okay, so do you want it to take a moment to speak directly to the camera to your viewers and let them know- A month steroids?
Yeah, you need to retract. A month steroids. Yeah. So we're going to go back to- we're going to go back to the original premise.
We're going to go back to the night that you met your girlfriend's ex. And he said that guy's on- Clearly on steroids. And you took it as a compliment. I'm still taking it as a compliment.
No compliments. No longer compliments. I look good. And I'm cheating to look good, but I look good.
Here's the thing. It's kind of like if you go, hey lady, how far along are you and she's just a fat lady? I feel like that's like the reverse comment. Like when you say to me, clearly this guy's on steroids and I'm not, that is a compliment.
But if I go, hey lady, how far along are you and she's like, what are you talking about? You're like, oof. And then I thought, if you say to a lady, hey how far along are you and she's not pregnant, that's- is that compatible- can you compare that to the N word? What?
Like saying, killing somebody an N bomb, killing a black person an N bomb. Is this a serious question? I think- Dude, if you say to a lady, how far along are you and she's not pregnant, that is fucking disrespectful, right? Yeah.
Okay, so let me say, is it- is it- is it- is it- it's not as bad as the N word, but it's as bad as- is it as bad as calling a little person a midget? Like there's no way to even answer this without getting yourself in trouble. What do you mean? Well, I mean, instantly my head goes to what's your time that we were hanging women that looked pregnant but weren't pregnant?
Like there's no- Oh, I don't think that it's fair. I'm just saying that I feel like when you say to a lady, are you pregnant and she's not, that that is very, very insulting. Yeah. It might be- it might be over the top- an over the top- an over the top reaction from a girl.
The major difference lies in intention. She's got a belly. Yeah, it looks like she's pregnant. No, I understand.
You know what I'm saying? I know somebody who has that question asked to them a decent bit who hasn't finished having kids ten years ago. Oh. When people say that to her, they are not reaching into their back pocket to find the most insulting disrespect or they can throw- Right, that's an innocent mistake.
It is an innocent mistake. It is an innocent mistake. That's why the two other comparisons that used are the exact opposite of innocent mistakes. An intention is everything.
You didn't even bring up the point that she could be black? We're black and pregnant. Black and not pregnant, but you said- Well, if you said she was a pregnant end-bomb, that would be crazy and something. Only you could get yourself in that kind of trouble.
I would never say that. But I was thinking, you know what it really is more compatible to? Because in America, if I call you a sebum, a girl, a sebum, that's bad. But in Australia, it's not good, but it's not bad like it is here.
Like if I go to listen, sebum, I haven't got time for this. That's- it's not cool. So how do you, as an Australian, tolerate our sebum policies here in America? Must be tough for you.
No, you know what? Yeah. Sometimes when people go, oh, I got- oh, yourself, you stupid- You know? Yeah.
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But I don't. Usually I just take it and I go, yeah, fair enough. Because it's your land. It's not my land.
Okay, should we start the podcast? Yeah. Okay, good. So you're here.
Before we get into anything else I should let everybody know we're going to bring back a signature segment later in the show, our advice segment helped. And so we're going to- we have some questions lined up. We're also going to invite people who are joining us live on Patreon to call in. What is our- do we have a good size Patreon?
Yeah. We do. Robust. What portion of that income do I get?
None of it. But there should be a- why? I mean, do you want to water or something? I got your free water.
Yeah. That's bad. Okay. When a boxing lesson?
No. Not from you. I know how that ends. I would never punch you.
I threatened to punch you on my podcast. And I was like, go for it. No, you didn't. You said that would end well.
In a very menacing- didn't look like joking. I've replayed it. You said to me, you said, I like getting scarred up. I like black eyes.
I feel more comfortable. Did you say I like black eyes? You said no. No, you said that.
Boy, you said that. That was a difference. That was some time ago. So, I like being dirtied up.
I said, well, do you think I should have punched you before you started the podcast? Yeah. And you- No, I didn't. No, I didn't.
I watched it. If you punched me as I was getting into your caravan for no reason, then that would have been different. No, we would have planned it. Then that would have been fine.
Okay. Yeah. No, I can't. I just couldn't physically punch him.
I just couldn't physically punch him. I just couldn't. Could you? Yes.
I have. You punched him? I did. Everybody wants to punch me.
I have to take off my plumeria colored shoes. That makes me want to punch you in the face. You want to be knocked out by, yeah. You do come out and say plumeria.
Those are my fizzes. Let me tell you something. You come at me with my plumeria colored sneakers. I'm going to kill you.
I've got to run his shop right behind me. Where it is. I can beat him too. Could you?
Probably not. Who's a better guy. I'm a better boxer, but he's way better. He's bigger.
Right? And he's way bigger. He's younger. It's hard for me to admit, but maybe.
That's tough to admit that is. But boxing, I'm a better boxer than him. That's a bad all. So would you take a fight boxing?
I'd fight anybody. Him? Yeah. I might just sponsor that.
I've fought tougher people than him. Lost, but I'm just saying for a show. Yeah. For entertainment sake.
Are there other MMA fighters out there that are looking to get into standup? No, I'm the best one. But I'm not a real MMA fighter. Ben and Shah was a real MMA.
He was in the UFC. I was in King of the Cage. Sorry, King of the Cage is legit, but I was one time like I'm not a real fighter. I feel like there was a moment there where it wasn't just Shah.
There was a couple of UFC guys that were kind of transitioning over. No, I think it was a one time deal where. Oh, no, that's right. There was, what's his name?
Mustache. Yeah. Uncle Creepy. Yeah, Uncle Creepy, who was super legit.
He almost got a belt. He was like top two in his weight class, but he was terrible. Yeah. But he also was, these guys, it's crazy when you've been good at something and then you get into something else and you go, oh, it's been two years.
What the hell? And I'm like, remember when you got into MMA? Were you in the UFC in the first two years? No, like it takes time, but it just seemed like, I don't know, it depends on who you are.
I got some people, I don't think people, I think it sounds cool and you're like a little extra gig on the side. But if your heart's not in it, then you're just going to bow out when things get rough. And I think that's most, that's, as far as I can tell, that's every single one of them. Everybody's bowed out when it hasn't gone the way that they expected.
As you've told me that, you know, it's going to happen to me. I think the only thing that I have gone from me is when I got into comedy, I was at a rock bottom, I hated my existence. So no matter what happens, it's never really that good and I never really expected it to be. So everything's a bonus, you know, because I can tell, I'm on the road now.
I have a couple of shows, I sold out and then I did another show. I was going to get a candidate, I was like, you sold six tickets. You suck. Toronto?
Huh? Yeah. They just cancelled that? Yeah.
They didn't promote it either, but still. Not a reflection of you at all. Tickets sales are just, I don't know how to, you know, don't take that personally. But I'm just saying one way or the other, it's not, I'm not like, oh, maybe I should reevaluate me being a comedian.
I don't care. Yeah. Like I'm going to keep going, I'm going to keep doing it, I'm going to go to open mics. I don't give a shit, you know, like I'm going to be good at it.
How long have you been doing it? It's like almost five years, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
Wow. No, no, no, no, it's actually longer than I thought that you would be doing it because of my career. You know, they say you're only as mature as you are in your comedy years. So, you know, I'm 30, you're five, you know, it goes like that.
Yeah. Yeah. I say how that would work. Yeah.
Do you feel you are my podcast, which comes out tomorrow, will have already been out by this time this comes out? Yeah. And it's very different than this. We had a very, you know, it's intimate, very close.
We had a very serious conversation. Yeah. You're very vulnerable. You said a lot of things that, you know, even surprised me.
Did you leave that day feeling raw? Did you, were you upset about anything you said? No. I mean, I do a show by myself, which is similar to what you, when I was doing the show with you, where I talk about what's really happening in my life.
Jason, I'll show us kind of more of a, you know, trying to be entertaining and be a little bit more turned up. So, that's not necessarily me all the time. Sometimes I am really turned up. Sometimes real me is pretty turned down.
Yeah. And that's what you get. I don't want some world. Yeah, I was curious because it's definitely different than your energy today.
And I think- Well, I know it's sick. Dude, I was dying. Whatever it is, it worked. I think it's a side of you that people would love to see.
Yeah. They do. Have you talked about all that stuff before? Mm-hmm.
Suicidal thoughts and everything? Probably. I told you about how I put a gun on my table, right? Yes.
You're the first podcast that I've done that I have to have a warning. There's a warning at the beginning of the podcast. Oh, wow. I got to throw up like a 1,800 number?
I get in the middle of podcast. Yeah. We did that too. We did the source icon number.
I think I got it wrong. But, you know- You think you got it wrong? It's, you know, I don't think anyone's got a fat jacket. So, I just said, call 1-800.
Don't do it. It was the first thing that gave them a- If they don't have 1-800, don't do it. Right. I'm not going to necessarily- No, not necessarily.
When there was something really messed up that I just remembered, when I was in high school, in order to get into college, you had to volunteer. So I volunteered at the old age home, and then they started this suicide prevention hotline. And I actually worked at the- You had people to talk them off the ledge. Most people I talked into it.
I said it's each other. You're probably better off. You didn't say that. No, we didn't actually ever get a call.
But we trained and we'd sit in this, the attic of this church. And we sat there waiting for a phone to ring and it never- No, one time. I don't think it ever rang. I don't know what we would say.
I don't know. I worked at an old age home. Yes. Oh, I see.
Okay. And then another job that we thought would be fought my resume to get me into college was working at a suicide hotline. Yes. Other high school kids.
It never really makes any sense. You call a hotline for you to talk me out of it. If I'm going to commit suicide, I don't want to talk to you, you fucking douche. Like I'm just going to do it.
The next thing I think about, what I'm about to blow my brains out is, well wait a minute, let me call this suicide hotline and talk to this dickhead who's going to talk me into it. I'll be like, yeah, I am going to do it. But first I'm coming to your house to take you with me, you asshole. Because that would, that would be your stocking me.
Yeah. Who's going to make my time at that suicide hotline. If I was suicidal and this is a problem with suicidal is you don't think, you know, because if I really thought about it, there's a couple of people I'd take with me. I haven't done this in years, Jason.
I'm willing to do this for you today. What? We're going to role play. I'm going to go back to my days.
Have you ever been suicidal? No, not at the end of the day. Have you been depressed? Yes.
Right. But the time I've ever crossed your mind? No, I'm going to cross everybody's mind. I think that's where it comes.
I'm going to tell you, can you say the closest to you guys. I literally remember one point in my life. I wouldn't say I was really depressed or anything. I was somewhere in my twenties.
And I don't know. I was like, ah, maybe I'll see if I get back to you with that girl. Maybe I'll see if I get this girl. And I was like, again, if that comes together, I'll probably just kill myself.
I was like, wait, what the fuck did I just say to myself? Yeah. That wasn't that serious though. No, I know it's not.
I literally did. That was the only time it wasn't the thing that you see in the movie or in the commercial where you're sitting there, your hands are shaking. You're like, just hold on, man, hold on. It was this matter of fact.
Oh, maybe I'll commit suicide. What the fuck? Where the fuck did that come from? I'm sorry.
I'm not going to do it anyway. I'm going to do what? Kill myself. Why would you do that?
So, think of it. I think I'm just annoying to everybody. I think it would be better if I wasn't here. You really think you're annoying to everybody?
As far as I can tell, everybody I know is pretty fed up. Give me an example. Everybody that I tell that I love them, I end up making them real mad. Let me tell you something, because I don't want you to feel bad about yourself.
But I have a friend, a real asshole, and he started dating this girl and after two and a half months, thought, well, let's get a house together. And this guy, he's close to the first person that I've done. That's so good. Yeah.
Yeah. I think you're rushing. I think it sounds like two addicts rushing. I think it's great to know right away if the person's perfect and stuff like that, and I encourage you, but moving in is a big step.
This makes things easier. How so? Well, now I don't have to drive to her. She doesn't have to drive to mine.
Hold on. Hold on. I'm calling in the suicide hotline for one second. Please hold the gun to cycle on.
I'm going to talk to you. Okay. I'll talk to you. Who me?
Yeah. Hey, what's up? Is that your real voice? It sounds like real put on.
No, this is the way that I talk. Superbump dude. I'm going to do it. I'm going to be honest.
With that guy he just spoke to. I don't wanna give a shit about him. Right. He can't give me.
I care about you. But he sounds like he's doing a put on. Hang on, we'll get back to it. Just get him off the line.
Hey, listen, he was a deal. Yeah. I'm going to give another guy another line. He's either Australian or he's on spectrum.
Hey, those guys, yeah. Look at autistic Australians. I'm going to do it. You got him to do it.
Don't do it. I can hear both you guys. Oh, shit. Part of you up.
That's it. I'm going to do it. Don't do it. Don't do it.
Don't make it. Don't you think that when you, the older you get, the quicker it is, you just sort of know what your deal breakers are. The older you get, I think the easier it is to know when you're with somebody, they're like, yeah, this isn't stupid, this is a good relationship. Like put it this way, if somebody's 18, and they meet somebody and they get engaged in a year, I'm like, maybe, but probably not.
If somebody's 58 and they get engaged in a year, I'm like, yeah, what's the wait? Okay, so you're fine with that? Do you disagree with that? Yes, I do disagree.
You still think you need to do it for four years? No, you're not, you're in a relationship. Are you not? For your secret relationship?
They've been dating for such a short period, they're talking in terms of fractions of a month. Here's the difference, okay? And next week it's gonna be, are we from dating two and three quarter months? You gotta look at it, it's different for us because we didn't do the bullshit at the start.
Is she here at Lemme Needle, and then I can decide. Should we hear later tonight? She's pretty great. But we told each other everything about it.
We didn't, I don't lie. I'm at the point now where I'm like, I haven't got time for it anymore. In the first day that I met her, I was like, okay, I could, like, well, that's such a, I told her a few times on the phone. And then when I actually met her, well, this is actually pretty cool.
And then the next time I met her, I was like, holy shit, this is beyond cool. And then I boned her, I think the third time, and I was like, wow, that, for sure, I thought that bit was gonna go wrong. So I'm like, everything else is building up. It's starting to look too good, so this bit's gonna go bad.
That bit worked out real good too. So I go, okay, well, there was a few things I told her before I boned her, but then there was a few more things that I told her after that. We're like, deal breakers for a lot of people. And she was like, well, then here's my deal breakers for most people.
And I was like, oh, I love that. And you're on the other side of it. And she's like, yeah, I'm on the other side of it. We're both going, we're both like in meetings.
We're both like doing the work. We have a sponsor. We don't, everything that's bad or troubling us, we say it. So like old relationships where it's like, there's a built, you build up resentments.
Cause I don't wanna tell you, you know, like, oh man, here's what I'm really thinking. It's kind of embarrassing to be honest. And I don't know you that well, and we haven't been hanging out for that long. So I'm probably not gonna just tell you everything and spill my guts.
But with us, we have. We've spilled everything. So if there's a problem, if you're not feeling good, you should just say it. And they'll go, I've heard it.
I've been wrong. I have heard way worse. I've gone out with way worse. I've done way worse.
And what you're telling me is fine. We can work through it. Yeah, what I'm just saying is it might be wonderful, but moving in after two and seven nights of a month feels rushed to me. But I don't know, I don't know the circumstances.
I hear what you're saying. And I feel like, we don't know each other well, but I feel like you do like me. Like, oh, I like you a lot. I like you.
I wouldn't be here today. You know, I really do. When you left that podcast, I said, I knew the minute I met you. There was something really human and your compassion in a vodka.
We had a connection. I do. I think you're cool. And I feel very comfortable talking with you.
You know what I want to ask you on my podcast? This is your interview. Yeah, this is the last question you get. And then I'll talk to you.
Anybody else noticed it was dragging a little bit before I took over? I thought it was pretty interesting. When did you not take over? Why?