EPISODE · Feb 11, 2026 · 40 MIN
Our (Not So) Guilty Pleasures & the Hobbies We’ve Defenestrated
from State of Mine · host Lia Neal and Kanwulia Gwam
In this episode of 'State of Mind,' hosts Lia Neal and Kanwulia Gwam explore the concept of hobbies and guilty pleasures, challenging traditional views by highlighting the importance of leisure activities for mental rest and creativity. They discuss their personal hobbies, from TV shows like 'Industry' and 'Sex in the City' to creative pursuits like DJ-ing and writing. The conversation delves into societal pressures that influence how we view and categorize hobbies, pushing for the acceptance of hobbies that provide personal joy and relaxation even if they don't traditionally seem 'productive.'00:00 Introduction to State of Mind00:23 TV Shows We're Watching01:47 Redefining Hobbies05:00 Guilty Pleasures vs. Hobbies11:41 Exploring Personal Interests18:43 The Value of Being Bad at Things19:27 Guilty Pleasures vs. Not-So-Guilty Pleasures21:01 Permission to Rest and Relax22:42 Exploring Your Own City26:16 Rediscovering Childhood Hobbies30:31 The Power of Creative Expression36:17 The Emotional Impact of Music38:28 Embracing and Sharing Hobbies39:36 Conclusion and Listener Engagement
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In this episode of 'State of Mind,' hosts Lia Neal and Kanwulia Gwam explore the concept of hobbies and guilty pleasures, challenging traditional views by highlighting the importance of leisure activities for mental rest and creativity. They discuss their personal hobbies, from TV shows like 'Industry' and 'Sex in the City' to creative pursuits like DJ-ing and writing. The conversation delves into societal pressures that influence how we view and categorize hobbies, pushing for the acceptance of hobbies that provide personal joy and relaxation even if they don't traditionally seem 'productive.'00:00 Introduction to State of Mind00:23 TV Shows We're Watching01:47 Redefining Hobbies05:00 Guilty Pleasures vs. Hobbies11:41 Exploring Personal Interests18:43 The Value of Being Bad at Things19:27 Guilty Pleasures vs. Not-So-Guilty Pleasures21:01 Permission to Rest and Relax22:42 Exploring Your Own City26:16 Rediscovering Childhood Hobbies30:31 The Power of Creative Expression36:17 The Emotional Impact of Music38:28 Embracing and Sharing Hobbies39:36 Conclusion and Listener Engagement
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