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EPISODE · Jun 9, 2026 · 57 MIN

Out of Your Element, Donnie: Ballrooms, Bureaucrats, and Bad Ideas

from Shrink The Nation · host Dr. Rob and Dr. David

This week, Dr. David and Dr. Rob explore what happens when confidence outruns competence.The conversation begins with the brief appointment of Bill Pulte as Acting Director of National Intelligence and expands into a broader discussion about expertise, loyalty, and why some people say "yes" to jobs they have no business holding. Along the way, the doctors examine Trump's growing obsession with White House renovations, billion-dollar ballroom projects, no-bid contracts, grievance politics, and the surprisingly revealing psychology of Power Slap(as promised: https://youtube.com/shorts/z5tk7c0Smg8?si=7C4Mb0qPDtZBQaHU) competitions.Why do institutions continue functioning when leaders are out of their depth? What happens when loyalty becomes a substitute for expertise? And what kind of person looks at an impossible job and says, "Sure, I can do that"?Pour a bourbon and join us for a conversation about ballrooms, bureaucrats, bad ideas, and the dangerous belief that confidence alone is enough.

This week, Dr. David and Dr. Rob explore what happens when confidence outruns competence.The conversation begins with the brief appointment of Bill Pulte as Acting Director of National Intelligence and expands into a broader discussion about expertise, loyalty, and why some people say "yes" to jobs they have no business holding. Along the way, the doctors examine Trump's growing obsession with White House renovations, billion-dollar ballroom projects, no-bid contracts, grievance politics, and the surprisingly revealing psychology of Power Slap(as promised: https://youtube.com/shorts/z5tk7c0Smg8?si=7C4Mb0qPDtZBQaHU) competitions.Why do institutions continue functioning when leaders are out of their depth? What happens when loyalty becomes a substitute for expertise? And what kind of person looks at an impossible job and says, "Sure, I can do that"?Pour a bourbon and join us for a conversation about ballrooms, bureaucrats, bad ideas, and the dangerous belief that confidence alone is enough.

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