433 | Outside 365 | Greg Heil

Most people need a job to survive—but what if that same job is quietly stealing your health? Greg realized his tech career was keeping him in a chair 60+ hours a week, so he committed to moving at least one mile outside every single day, no matter the weather. Nearly 1,700 days later, he's not only healthier but clearer on what actually matters—and he's living out of a van on his own terms. Greg, the founder of Outside 365, shares how a simple daily practice transformed his relationship with work, money, and well-being. The conversation covers the fragility of job security (especially in tech), why "FU money" matters when layoffs hit, and how remote work unlocked a nomadic lifestyle he never planned for. Brad and Greg also dig into the mental health payoff of nature exposure, the practicality of starting with just one mile, and why progress beats perfection when building new habits. Key Topics Discussed [00:01:13] Introduction of Greg and Outside 365 Overview of Greg's commitment to spending at least one mile outside each day and the inspiration behind Outside 365. [00:06:20] Job Impermanence and Financial Independence Conversation about job security and the importance of pursuing financial independence. Reflection on job insecurities highlighted by recent layoffs in the tech industry. [00:09:42] Importance of Outdoor Time Insight into how outdoor activities can enhance mental well-being. Discussion of the critical importance of aligning daily actions with personal values. [00:21:00] Building Healthy Habits Strategies for incorporating exercise into daily routines through micro doses. Encouragement to start small by committing to just one mile outside daily. [00:38:10] Van Life and Travel Greg shares his van life experience and how it aligns with his values. Reflections on the benefits of remote work enabling a more flexible lifestyle. Key Quotes [00:01:15] "Surround yourself with the right people for success." [00:06:00] "Understand job impermanence to prepare for your future." [00:28:02] "Focus on progress, not perfection." [00:48:23] "Prioritize outdoor time for better mental health." Action Items Commit to spending at least one mile outside each day Evaluate your job situation and reflect on potential financial independence Related Resources The Nature Fix by Florence Williams