Overcoming Fear and Resistance to Change in Construction

Welcome to another episode of The Heald Approach Podcast. In this episode, Rebecca interviews James Morris, a security, safety, and sustainability manager who works with mining and utilities companies. This is one of the first time Rebecca has interviewed a man on the podcast to discuss women in construction and diversity and equality in the industry. James shares his background, including his military experience and work in various sectors across different geographical locations. He also discusses his role as a volunteer leader supporting young professionals in their careers. The conversation then delves into James' initial reservations about discussing privilege as a straight white man. However, he recognises the importance of using his privilege to be an ally for underrepresented groups and amplifying their voices. They discuss how fear often drives resistance to change in industries like construction that have been historically male-dominated. They also address how diversity goes beyond gender or race—it's about having people with different experiences and perspectives at the table. They emphasise that diversity of thought is crucial for innovation within teams. Rebecca highlights her desire for men like James to use their privilege because many male allies stay quiet due to fears or uncertainty about their place in these conversations. The goal is collaboration instead of competition between genders. They touch on women holding themselves back or holding each other back due to fears around competition within male-dominated industries. They stress the need for mentorship programs that support young professionals entering these fields by teaching resilience skills. The conversation then shifts towards sustainability and its connection with diversity, equity, inclusion (DEI). James explains that sustainability is about managing risks while creating environments that are better than when we found them—it's not just about protecting the environment but also fostering diverse teams. They explore how change can be uncomfortable but necessary for progress and growth. It requires individuals to step out of their comfort zones—just like exercising at the gym—to embrace discomfort as an opportunity for personal development. James concludes by encouraging open dialogue between all parties involved so they can understand each other's needs better—this includes asking questions rather than making assumptions—and foster collaboration instead of divisiveness.