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EPISODE · Jun 29, 2026 · 17 MIN

“P(doom) is a Dumb Meme” by Max Harms

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Look, I'm as much of a Rationalist with a special interest in AI x-risk as anyone. But oh my god do I hate talking about "P(doom)". When it first started showing up in the wake of ChatGPT, I assumed that it was floating around variously adjacent circles of faux-intellectuals, but surely everyone in my circles could see how braindead it was... right? (This post was partially inspired by a recent conversation with Liron about Doom Debates.[1]) I guess it's time for me to focus on a place where I'm shocked that everyone else is dropping the ball.[2] P(doom) is Hopelessly Vague Let's start with the ambiguity. Does "doom" mean... extinction? A lot of people think so! I have personally encountered people who think catastrophic harms from AI are likely, but the risks of all humans dying are low. They're like "Sure, 99.999% of humans might die from AI, but the AI will obviously want to keep thousands of humans alive for science and potential trade with aliens and stuff, so my P(doom) is approximately 0%." That might sound crazy. Surely you, dear reader, know exactly what "doom" means. You know, for example, which of these count as doom and [...] ---Outline:(00:45) P(doom) is Hopelessly Vague(04:09) Inside Views, Outside Views, and Likelihood Ratios(08:31) P(doom) is Fatalistic(13:03) Counterarguments(16:25) A Sense That More Is (Memetically) Possible The original text contained 8 footnotes which were omitted from this narration. --- First published: June 29th, 2026 Source: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/6h7aAd4aw8YgCAbF6/p-doom-is-a-dumb-meme --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO. ---Images from the article:Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts, or another podcast app.

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