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Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the main event. It's time for the end of the world. Welcome back to the world of Pacific Rim, where humanity stands on the brink of annihilation by kaiju. But at least we're standing in giant robots called Jaegers.
Today, we discuss the legendary end of the kaiju war, and what comes next after the credits roll. Heads up, this episode contains spoilers for the Pacific Rim movies and related media. Enjoy. We were having a discussion last night as we were hanging out in a friend's new house.
We just checked out the rotating cars and things. We'd seen the wine cellar, checked out the man cave, all that sort of stuff. We were sitting in the spa next to the pool, as podcasters do, our friend the podcaster. And I found that there was an interesting discussion we were having, which I'd like to comment on here, which is, I didn't realise this fully, but all three of us get something different out of video games, which is enjoyable to me.
And to summarise what my current understanding is from the conversation we had, I play video games for fun and for a thing to do, like a task list, as in currently an unemployed engineer who moves boxes all day. Matt plays games to win, and Jude plays them to relax, because in minor times he gets just to cool out. Matt plays exclusively to win. Matt wants to challenge himself and win.
I like to have a task that's hard and feel achieved to do it. So that can either be a list of things to do and activating it, or a competitive game and working with a team to complete a goal, and that's like winning, usually in sample my rivals. That's winning. I also prefer team stuff that joins together, like in...
My god, the game's gone. I've watched. No, no, I was thinking of... League of Legends.
No, a good game. Yeah, it's a great game. I mean, the headlines we've been playing lately, but the one with dwarves are totally good. Oh, Deep Rock Galactic.
Deep Rock Galactic? Deep Rock Galactic, that's it. Yeah, so again, a team that you go and you do something together and you win. Like, there's an option that you can lose, or you can not succeed, because that's the point.
There's no not succeeding. What's the point? I understand that. However, if I am feeling silly, what's a man to do but do silly shit?
That's fair. I'd be feeling silly, I'd be equipping the PP Bison, rushing mid, CSGO. Neither of you two played that very much. I just heard you'll be in the PP, that's all I heard.
It is, I do. I think it's nicknamed the PP, because I was 13 years old, and by God, that was the funniest shit I've ever seen. I will just jump into my Band of War play-through, and see, I love nothing more than fighting out, playing out an impossible siege, and seeing just how long I can, with my defenders, defend this fortress before we fall, and then I will die on the steps of the palace and get captured by the enemy, because that's how Band of War works. Very mild fantasy of you.
That's also very satisfying, especially with mates dying on the front line and trying to last round and round and round. I also, I do like to try and last as long as I can with mates all the time. It's very interesting. If it's over in like 15 minutes, like, you know what I mean?
It's just that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I prefer something like... I thought something like...
It's about two minutes is a long time, isn't it? Yeah, cool, cool. I always have a fine. Thanks for doing this.
I log in. I was watching someone on Discord the other day in my work chat who's playing Minecraft with Shaders for the first time, and they're just looking at the beauty of the mountain, and I'm like, ah, that's funny, as I manage my nuclear reactor, because I need my fusion engine to run faster, so therefore I need to be able to get the waste and pipeline that. My waste is overflowing, so I have to find out its disposal system, but that's going to have to re-figure that out, and my hydrogen production isn't high enough, so I'm going to increase that. And there's this person who's like, look, I'm building a path.
I'm like, I wish I could get that again. This is making me ill. Well, it sounds like a very complicated plan there with a lot of moving parts. You know who else has a very complicated plan with a lot of moving parts?
Yeah. Stacker Pentecost from Pacific Rim. Who? He does.
Stacker Pentecost. Stacker Pentecost, also known as Idris Elba. Sorry, pause. What nationality is this guy?
American. Horseshit. What the fuck kind of name is Stacker Pentecost? Kind of sick name.
I mean, you're correct, but also... He's also Idris Elba, so he's also kind of sick. Yeah, he gets a pass. Yeah, a stack of pancakes.
You know what I mean? Wish I could have a stack of pancakes right now. Last time... Which, once again, I just want to quickly remind everyone that Cordy Elba, the Lime Cordial Idris Elba collab does exist, and it's Idris Elba playing with Australian indie group of Lime Cordial.
I don't know who they are. Are you mentioning them? He seems to be into Lime Cordial. Well, he's seen this a couple of times.
I think he's brought us up to us every day. It's really concerning. We're kind of concerned. Every time you talk to him, he's up to this.
It's just one of those, you know when a Cordial happens, and in your brain it doesn't make ... because Lime Cordial is like, not like a small group, but they're like a triple J indie group, kind of. That doesn't mean anything to anyone who's listening. Well, I'm explaining it to you guys.
The listeners don't matter right now. It's just YouTube. And then, in itself, a Hollywood actor from England, Cordial Adris Elba, there's just the most random crossover event. We're all like, huh?
Well, I'll be ready for crossover events, because every country is coming together, too. Yeah, we're at every crossover. The Olympics. This is the S.
They're going to save the world. So, last time we talked about the kaiju war, the start, the breach, opening, the development of the Jaegers, the drift system, and we talked about the evolution of the war as it went along. We're here, we're in 2025, we have four Jaegers left, there's no funding that's been decommissioned, the society is entirely invested in walls that aren't working, suddenly we've had 14 kaiju attacks in one year, and then we've become more and more frequent. Basically, the world's been writing and protesting, all the leaders are putting their head out their ass, and the world's coming to an end.
But one man, and his team, people, with no funding is going to put this shit together. Yeah. That's the idea. I feel like you kind of need funding for a Jaeger.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but raw material costs is kind of an issue here. They have the funding left to decommission them. That's what they've got left, and they're basically just going against orders. Okay, sick, nice, I respect it.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they have the parts, they haven't sold anything yet. And also, think about all the spare parts across the world that have all been brought to Hong Kong. All the people that have still on staff, all the other stuff, that have been brought to Hong Kong. So even the funding from across the world, even if it's limited, it's all in one place now.
Nice. Yeah, so. They also, do you mind, I'd like to say a thing, because it was a thing that I picked out in the movie re-watching it recently that I'd forgotten about. I don't know if I'm going to mention it later, though.
Just say it now, we'll say it. The Sacker, Idris Elba, also references the fact that they've done a lot of dodgy dealings to black market people, just get extra money where they can. And like, I was saying last episode, that the black market gets there before them, it starts turning into, they let the black market get there before them, and then take a bit of a cut, and like... So they do have a connection there, and that's why they work later in the movie.
Yeah, but how much money were these dirty deals done for? I don't know. Dirt cheap? Done for free?
Done dirt cheap? What joke are you trying to do? I'm making dirty deals done for fucking... Done for free.
Isn't it done dirt cheap? The song? Maybe. I don't know, it's easy.
Woo! All right, ACDC song reference, that's done. That's my Australian tag for today. Butterfly gone.
I'm no cheap, motherfucker. They were very expensive, they were very expensive deals. We don't know exactly how much, but they were very expensive, because everything was very expensive compared to getting them off official manufacturers. I mean, there's a kaiju part, sorry, you're not going anywhere else.
Oh my god, oh my god, teamu-yager. Teamu-yager. I mean, it's so good. There's no teamu-yagers.
Not yet, at least. Not yet. So, it's time to meet the resistance. The leader, so this is Daka Pentecost.
After losing his sister Luna to trespasser the original kaiju, he dedicated his life to fighting them. She was a fighter pilot who got hit down and killed by the kaiju. Those original first responders. So, he volunteered to be one of the first test pilots for the POM system, and helped to skill the funding for the first jaegers.
He was on board from the start. Nice. He becomes one of the first jaeger pilots in Kiyoti Tango, which he pilots for two years, running nearly a dozen missions. Damn.
He, in one famous incident in Tokyo, Saka was the first piloting jaeger solo as his co-pilot loses conscience. But he was the one who did it before Riley Becker. So, he got a medical class, and he was cleared for that action afterwards. I assume he didn't stress his brain out too much.
Well, he wasn't meant to pilot jaegers again afterwards. Well, let me finish. We'll get there. This is also where he adopted an orphan after the attack, a Mako Mori, which is a survivor of the attack.
So, she became a pretty famous survivor of the attack because he adopted her, and she became his daughter, and she'll become important later. And we don't mention his son, who doesn't come off once in the first movie. Who cares? Did you know he has a son?
Yeah, because he's the focus of the second movie. I feel like this would have been relevant last movie. It's so fun that he doesn't come off his son once. The loss of consciousness was thought to be a one-off, but then they were the first to realise the early jaegers were giving their pilots cancer and neuronal damage due to the nuclear exposure.
So, not being a pilot jaegers anymore, he transitioned to becoming a trainer and a leader at the PPDC. So, Saka strongly opposes the UN shutting down the jaegers program, but can ultimately do nothing. He pleads to make one final assault, but they reject him. So, fuck it, he does it anyway.
Yeah, go ahead. He is put in charge of decommissioning the remaining jaegers. The scene around the wall, the walls are not going to save them. It's close the breach now or never.
If the UN won't help him, he'll do it himself. So, this is why he's putting the team together. He's doing the Matt Damon and, oh my god, what's his name? George Clooney.
George Clooney from Motion's Eleven. Thank you. Thank you. All wrapped in a while.
I'm one of my pocket favourites, actually. It's so true. It's such an easy to watch a movie. That and Social Network, too great.
I haven't seen it. I should watch both of those. It's so good. He gathered all the remaining jaegers, pilots, and brilliant minds in Hong Kong, to close the breach once and for all.
So, let's meet the Brainsley operation. We have Newton Geisler, or Newton Geisler, or Newton, is the kaiju expert in the K-science lab of the PPTC. Sorry? Scamander.
Scamander, yeah. He's a big boy. This is Charlie Day, by the way. How's this motherfucker kid getting into position where he's not cooked out of his mind?
Oh, no, this is pretty cooked out. Oh, wait, just wait. No, because he's fucking Luigi in the Mario movie. Doctorates by the age of 25, and by then he's been taught at MIT for six years.
He pioneered artificial tissue replication. In 2016, he joined the PPTC as the kaiju researcher, and he's a bit of a kaiju fanboy, or groupie, as he's described. Amazed by them. He even has a tattoo of one of them.
His role, sorry, is to determine the weaknesses and origins of the kaiju. One, a device, or he invented, was the milking machine. Don't bother me. Which is, it extracts noxious chemicals and kaiju glands.
Yeah. Knock that motherfucker. He milks the kaiju there. Knock that motherfucker.
He loves it, too. He's freaking legit. He joins the doctor in Hong Kong as the greatest mind on what kaijus are and what they can do. Let's meet our next individual.
Oh, yeah. And I forgot to say it, but he was, an interesting thing about him, I mean, he was born the, he wasn't born like brilliant scientists. He was born to a piano tuner and an opera singer, and they married, but when his mother left, his uncle took over, and his uncle was a music engineer and introduced into electronics, and that's called him into all that smart shit. Yeah, that's fine.
He's disappointing his parents, though. Yeah. We wanted you to become a bass guitarist. Yeah, exactly.
This is just like your family. Why are you being an engineer? You're tearing this family apart. Your mother's disappointed.
No, no, no. We also have Herman Kotlib, which was the son of one of the co-developers of the original kaiju. I think it's an expert in abstract math, engineering, statistics, and applied scientists in the K-Lab of the PPTC. Herman wrote the programming for the Mark I Jaegers, and presumably had a part in the code that went on from there, right?
He was put in charge of determining the exact physics and nature of the breach. His expertise was in predicting the number of Jaeger attacks, when and where they were had to. Kaiju attacks. Kaiju attacks.
Fuck me. Kaiju attacks. He was brought into Hong Kong by a stack to work alongside Noot to give them as much intel as possible for the upcoming strike. I think it's really funny, because this actor, Bernd Gorman, has played so many, he's the kind of guy that I've seen a few different roles, and he always plays the same kind of character.
And then in Pacific Rim, he's completely different to that, because he's in Torchwood as Owen, and he's like this too-cool-for-school kind of thuggy dude in the Torchwood team, and then he's in Game of Thrones as a really brutal cutthroat guy that kills the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch and stuff. All these things. He's the guy that tech-soverecasters keep for a bit in Game of Thrones. He is?
Yeah, yeah. All these different things. And then he comes into Pacific Rim, and he's like this stuttering... Nerd with the cane?
Yeah, he's just this stuttering nerd with the cane. That's a very funny. Oh, he's amazing, yeah. Dude, in the second movie, he's got range.
In the second movie, he beats people up with the cane. Also, American-born and English actor. What the fuck? Where?
He's everything. What the? Is that him? Yep.
That's the other same guy. He's got range. Just like Charlie Day, you know? According to Pacific Rim, part-backed, according to Pacific Rim, Blu-ray feature Drift Space, Newton and Herman conversed for three years over letters and getting quite close, really liking each other, but when they met him personally, they instantly disliked each other.
Damn it! My fucking fan of each other. They were getting along really well over letter, and the moment they met, like, fuck you. Most enemy slaughters?
Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. Now we need LeBron, the muscle, who's going to get the job done. So, let's meet our four Jaegers. Oh, yeah, maybe.
We've got Crimson Typhoon. Yeah. Otherwise known as Triple Threat. Whoa.
This is a Mark IV Chinese Jaeger built in 2018, piloted by the Wei-Ton brothers, and a unique triplet pilot, there used to be Street Fighters turned Jaeger pilots. What the fuck is a career path like that? Also, Triple? Yes.
They've got less chance of aneurysm. This is the only triple pilot con system. It's a unique system built by the person who built the original con system for them. They should have been using this in the rest of them.
I assume it minimizes aneurysms a bit. Kind of. So there's two pilots control Jaeger's movement itself, and one is the gunner. Great!
That's great! That's perfect! But you see, like, 20 people in these things. That's what, yeah, do a fucking, oh, there's a movie about this.
The thing is, though, when you do it for two people, it's a lot more, you have to have perfect trust, perfect connection, right? Yeah, yeah. The more you add another person to that, then you need everyone in that triple. When they work as triplets, it works a lot better, right?
If you add a fourth person, what if one person doesn't get along in that fourth? Well, then it's something, yeah. They need to get a cluster of completely, so the more people you add in this, the harder it gets. So it only really works with these triplets.
Gulliver travels. It only really works with them. So, Crimson Typhoon has sexually defended Hong Kong from seven attacks that we know of. It's also probably done other attacks that we don't know, but it's what we know.
It is known for having three arms. Unicating three arms among Jaegers, having powerful jet propulsion for power and speed, the ability for the con pod to act as a telescope, and the rotating torso that can rotate like 180 degrees for extra mobility. Yeah, exactly. Well, basically, if you get attacked from behind, you turn around, you're fighting, you don't like maneuver yourself around, right?
So, it also has a signature, a well-known signature move called the Thunder Cloud Formation. That's sponsored. Sponsored. Yeah, definitely.
100% sponsored. Oh, my God, the American man has like 90 smash. I'm seeing the fucking possibilities. 90 smash.
Apple. Apple collision. Well, if we talked about, like, one thing they do when you're training, oh, we talked about in the original episode, but when they're training, they do, they used to, like, they say the command so they're linked as much as possible. That was, like, they're encouraged to say the name.
so that kind of goes in so even when they're like this level when they're experts they still yell out what they do so in the movie they yell out THUNDER CLOUD FAMMATION and they do yell out SWORD my favourite move SWORD so the THUNDER CLOUD FAMMATION is where their 12 fingers on each hand will split into 12 saws so all their hands will basically turn into saw blades which rotate at rapid speed cutting through kaijus you can't cut the kaijus I was told this on good word they made swords they can cut through them most of the cutting elements are a thing where they heat up it's not mentioned if these ones do or not it doesn't like heat up that we see it but they usually cut through and they can't uncauterize but sometimes you just slice through and kill it especially if they keep that miracle mile we talked about the toxic is just going to go into the water probably not because of the environment who really should have had the fish? me I just like fish I care about the fish that's how you should okay Aquaman so true so true worst superhero in the Justice League call me Neymar the original Aquaman fun fact Crimson Typhoon was originally going to be forearms and piloted by female quadriplets but the casting crew couldn't find any oh god the writers in the studio were like yeah this will be good the people in the casting department were like these are the Nelson Twins and just made one of them and just duplicated it like the camera work yeah they do that on social network yeah it's really good cool that is out that's out of kaiju yep Mark of Jaeger fuck me Crimson Typhoon now second Jaeger Shono Alpha yeah Shono Alpha yeah where's Shono Alpha from yes Shono it's not German I got told that already Japan no it is a Russian it's a Mother Russia it's Mark 1 Russian Jaeger built in 2015 making the oldest Jaeger still active is that no 2015 was Mark 1 I was going to be building Mark 1 later than everyone else no no this originally came out piloted by husband and wife Sasha Analeski Kydonskvi I'm bad at pronouncing Russian names so sorry usually stationed in Siberia it has killed at least six kaijus in six different locations that we know of Shono I was just showing Guy because Shono Alpha looks fucking sick oh yeah it looks like let me solo hooch I don't know if you get that right yeah you also look out the Crimson Typhoon if you want to look out and see how sick of that but yeah so Shono is one of the old heavy tank-like kaijus so I believe this is why it is people like the pilots didn't get cancer because they had so much laying because it was very much known for its toughness so it's built to endure and wear down its opponent it's one of the safest Jaegers to pilot with the compod being in the heart of the Jaeger however this also means it has no escape pod so it's win or die yeah pretty sick where a lot of the newer kaijus are digital because we go yay one of the rides and it's a kaiju because we go kaiju kai kai bye bye kai kai kai that works that's good I couldn't think of it I was going to bail on it so it is one of it gets the safest blah blah blah where a lot of newer kaijus are digital Shono runs off hydraulics and it's analogue and it has a nuclear reactor it's signature weapon is it's heavily armoured arms known as the roll of nickels it's got powerful cylinders that can increase the power of its punches it is said that the environment shakes when each blow is struck on a kaiju so this is very much going at full kinetic force they also have tesla coils in the hands so when they hit a kaiju with a powerful current it can either shock and exacerbate most targets especially when they use a double hand to basically be banging on both sides of the head to shock to be put their electricity right through the skull when they go banging yeah that is a Shono I think it's Shono-Shinobel I think that's the point it's supposed to be a walking power plant bad power plant to pick I do kind of love the thing as well the way it looks in the movie is so funny because it gets this kaiju in a headlock punches it and then it goes back and then it's arm ejects forward and there's a second bun it's like bang bang that's the roll of nickels the roll of nickels it's a sick name for it I mean sick to learn for it how stupid is another if they had real sponsors they'd be the roll of Nikeels oh we're good figuring it out no the sponsors Shono-Shinobel next one is Striker Eureka so it's very great Mark 5 Australian Jaeger no one knows the only Mark 5 ever built piloted by father and son duo Herc and Chuck Hanson it is the strongest and fastest Jaeger of the day in its short history it has managed to kill 9 Jaegers at least 9 Jaegers sorry 9 Kaijus yes all my fucking brain sorry we're getting to the point where the sponsors are demanding that we do Jaegers and Jaeger battles to show off in different brands at least 9 Kaijus being a strong holdout in 2024 it is built to be a dirty boxer or brawler it uses its speed agility to dodge and take down Kaijus as quickly as possible its signature weapon is its brass knuckles which are tempered resistant brass steel compounds cast around the joints of the Jaeger's fingers yes they put brass knuckles on a metal robot yes that's sick sure love it it has a twin retractable assault mounted sting blades which each have carbon nanotudes that get up to 300 degrees fahrenheit or about 150 degrees celsius and cauterized Kaijus it also has a chest mounted missile launcher which has 18 warheads on it which can kill small Kaijus with a direct hit yeah this is like the ultimate this is like the ultimate this is the only Mark 5 or a bill this is the only Mark 5 or a bill this is the only 100 billion and it was enough to deter everyone else from doing it as to the usual the Australian government has made a kind of poor kind of good investment well listen the mutual submarines are getting paid and our last on the list we have our favourite Gypsy Danger the Mark 3 American Jaeger launched in 2017 originally pirated by the Beckett Brothers as previously stated it was decommissioned then in 2020 but was recommissioned by Saka in the Lull of Attacks in 2023 this was called the Mark 3 Restoration Program though we don't know that of Gypsy Danger being restored yes in the restoration Gypsy wasn't just repaired but upgraded its hydraulics and neuromuscular systems were upgraded so it has faster reaction and more endurance its plasma caster was rehauled and upgraded reducing the delay and active trigger that got Gypsy destroyed the first time so basically the whole thing they needed to physically raise their arm they couldn't do they don't need to do that anymore and I think it's a 15% charge faster or something like that but yeah so it's better it's still nuclear power but also been upgraded with extra shielding so no cancer its HUD has been also upgraded to match the new Mark 4 and Mark 5 HUDs its escape mechanisms were upgraded to match the PPDC new regulations after the incident it got destroyed the better escape mechanisms yep makes sense no the Mark the one sorry the Shunner has no escape mechanisms so they just didn't agree to the regulations eh Russian technology man a new installation with also a signature weapon the giant chainsaw blade so giant chain blade has been installed as a secondary weapon through the plasma blaster yeah good yeah so big sport alright so these four are like the best they're like the optimal they're like a prime group they're the survivors they're the perfect team it's what we've got left maybe they're the best best of the Jaegers yeah survival of the fittest I guess yeah yeah that's what I'm saying officially they're here to be discommissioned all the Jaegers but ignoring that order they've got one final mission they will use all four Jaegers to attack the breach and close it three will act as defence and backups while Eureka are the most powerful what will have be a huge thermonuclear bomb the biggest they could find and put it right to the breach closing it by detonating it in the throat who did the maths on that one who figured out that that was probably what would happen if they put a bomb in there most things get destroyed if they put a bomb in it I mean unless it's a hole in which case it's probably going to get bigger they probably have to explain it but it's most likely Herman Herman's our breach expert he's our expert in the math of the breach and not annoying I think he does explain that they can oh yeah no you're right it does apparently say dropping it into the breach and exploding it will overload the radiation and it'll be unstable because the breach isn't even stable that stable like now the whole point is that they're hoping that because of how many it'll be stable enough because they shut it down it was good timing I was just like there's too many movies with bombs being thrown just kind of well they literally were about to close it and then Iron Man's like no don't close it I'm going to put the nuke through it it's a good plan yeah so they waited before the nuke went through honest opinion still the best Avengers movie oh god yeah love the first Avengers it's a good movie I think Infinity War is the best Avengers movie we got all three then we're good then conversation over we don't need to discuss any further because it might change opinions no one can disagree with us now so they start preparing for the mission they're training and preparing Jaegers a new copilot has to be found for Rayleigh there's a lot of pushback and there's a lot of talk in the movie about who should be a pilot but eventually Mako Mori is selected the doctor of Stacker is selected she's the best candidate Stacker is hesitant to put her in because of her PTSD basically and he doesn't want to lose her so what classifies her as the best then she's very compatible with Rayleigh oh okay they want to fuck so they're compatible we want to drift okay you have to use the terms also she's going to match them on a fighting level so you know you said how does a streak fighter get to a Jaeger pilot they're good fighters yeah basically they fight together the thing about fighters we would have never been seen as more than dirt but because we need fighters to fight they've been raised up so there's the whole thing about how this is the time for people who do our fighters that's interesting but also specifically hand to hand fighters you don't get a soldier that's trained in boxing yeah exactly so yes Herman briefs Stacker telling him that the Kaiju attacks are becoming increasingly increasingly frequent it happens every 24 weeks then every 12 and then every 4 here's an equation basically it's increasing at a rate he says the last second city was a week ago meaning they had days or hours before the next we're facing a double event I mean there's two Kaijus coming through at once I got two fists baby and then he says then there's a triple event and then they cut some off I was like apocalypse I get it yeah cool there's more and more I'm going to send a quote to the chat who would like the first one is it Herman it is Herman I'll go for Herman oh my Facebook has crashed that's a weird glitch I ain't seen that before for a moment there Matt's Facebook was like slightly transparent I think it had died and gone to heaven it's a ghost now Facebook has died alright no he's revived it he put the fucking the CP what's the defig on it he tried to go to heaven I'm like not this time one more job numbers do not lie politics poetry and promises these are lies numbers are as close as we get to the handwriting of God you can see I was very pretentious but he's fucking right he knows that the increased traffic will cause the breach to become stable enough that the thermonuclear bomb will get through the throat explode it and then collapse it so Newt however believes that they should focus on the kaijus themselves and understanding them before the final strike he wants to drift with a kaiju but they've been told no there's too dangerous and they need him wait drift with a kaiju? yeah he has a secondary kaiju brain and he wants to drift with it to basically understand them oh because they meld yeah he wants to meld his brain with a kaiju to get their memories wait so who wants to do this? Herman Charlie Day Charlie Day why would Newt do it?
get a fucking volunteer to do it get a different he wants to do it he's a freak he's a nasty freak classic so I made directions I have no idea who this is so Charlie Day oh damn I called you Charlie Day can you get for a sort of register to me oh yeah I get it it's sort of right up here that's pretty good having to watch a movie that's pretty good Herman if you're listening to this well I'm either alive and I've proven what I've just done works or in which case I won or I'm dead and I'd like you to know that it's all your fault it really is you know you drove me to this in which case I also won yeah so he decides to do it anyway goaded goaded by an argument with Herman he decides to drift with the kaiju brain anyway using fragments of the secondary kaiju brain that he got before he composed basically he says he used pretty shit technology to do it he used garbage to Herman's guy using garbage to drift with the kaiju brain nice nice he built it in a cave with a bunch of straps I can't get away from my man fuck up this nearly kills him that's fucking surprising Herman finding him having a season on the ground but he discovers critical information frames of information from like blippets he describes like blinking your eyes just into small bits he discovers these kaijus aren't just hunting they're being ordered to attack humanity nice nice their masters the precursors whoa we're in Mass Effect now oh shit they want to take over the world they take over many worlds they consume them move on they would like to colonize earth they came here originally in dinosaur times but the atmosphere wasn't right for them so they decided to wait till later hey spoiler the atmosphere's gotten worse it needs me a lot more oxygen they say something like I tried to like narrow this down they said the dinosaurs that was them so did they kill the dinosaurs they bombed the dinosaurs make the dinosaurs that was like two things which one I don't know that was a weird quote that was them they bombed the dinosaurs 0% chance it was anything other than they bombed the dinosaurs maybe honestly maybe didn't expect the monkeys to survive but again the atmosphere wasn't right so they decided to wait with how humans have polluted the world and diluted the ozone they basically built a perfect environment for them this guy says we terraformed our own planet for them yeah they want it a bit ruined this is where we get into the idea that kaiju is kind of a metaphor for climate change a little bit whoa nature strikes back a little bit because they're very polluted they've polluted they've polluted they're all radiating the world has to come together to fight this one yeah the first wave the original small cat twos and threes we're just here to scout see what the world is like and how humans react the second wave what's happening now they're the exterminators they will finish the job cool the reason they found the same DNA across multiple kaijus is because they're grown they're all clones he's found out that the kaijus have a hive mind meaning they're all connected this is how the precoces know what's happening on the side stacker wants him to do this again because they need more information he needs him to go find another kaiju brain which they don't have one but he does have connections in the black market so they send him there to go find another secondary kaiju brain okay also question how are they keeping these things from decomposing because they put them on the whole point they put them in ammonia acids they keep them in ammonia big tanks they just have to get them real quick after it dies and sometimes they're not quick enough yeah and they're never going off they're still looking at these life forms in reaction to the drift, Herman predicts the predicted double event happens. So it's a little earlier than Herman predicted, but that's because the drifting with the kaiju brains activated them. So when he saw into their mind, they saw into his mind. Drifting goes two ways.
Two cat-four kaijus come through the breach, Leatherback and Motachi. Shono, Alpha, Crimson Typhoon, and Striker Eureka are sent to face them. They do not send Gypsy Danger because they're not ready yet. They haven't got the training synced up yet with Mako and O'Reilly.
With their increase in intelligence and higher bio-mentality, this is a terrifying threat to fight two at once. They're talking without talking. They're working together as a perfect pair. Shono, Alpha, and Crimson Typhoon are taken out, unfortunately.
They are destroyed in this form. It is brutal. We have four yagas, two of them dead. Leatherback then releases an EMP blast, which deactivates Striker Eureka, leaving it dead in the water.
Gypsy Danger, not being deployed as the pilots went ready, as I said, has to be deployed. They get in because they're the only yagas that they can. Because all the other, they were digital, so they are wrecked by the EMP blaster, but as we know Gypsy Dangerous in Mark III, it's analog, it's nuclear. So it's still ready to go.
You'll lose a bit of radiation, you know. Exactly, exactly. You'll be right. So Leatherback and Hitachi separate, one going for Eureka and one going for the city.
And particularly going for Newt, the person whose brain they got with. Eureka pilots, Herc, injured from one of the Kaiju attacks, they stand their ground, giving the city more time. In Striker Eureka, do you mean? Yeah, the Eureka pilots.
So they basically, they're dead in the water. They decide to try something dumb as hell to give them the city more time. Let me give you a quote to the chat. Go Jude, so this is the Aussies.
I'm sure you know this quote. Now, you and I are the only thing standing between that ugly bastard and a city of two million people. Now, we have a choice here. We either sit here and wait, or we take these flare guns and do something really stupid.
Nice, nice, nice. Take the flare guns. Fuck yeah. Give them flare guns.
Do something stupid. Gypsy Danger arrives just in time. They use the flare distractor for a little bit, but just in time before the Kaiju strikes, Gypsy comes in, fighting close by with Leatherback, managing to clutch kill it with a sword reveal. Nice.
The leg flies into the air and they catch it and they just slice it in half. Let's go. So then, moving forward, using a ship as a bat, they manage to kill Hitachi and then making sure he's dead, they check for a pulse, which is the action of just shooting it three times, a bunch of times with the Eklad McAster. I do love that scene.
Yeah. It's a reference back to Soda doesn't get them like the last time. The double tap from Zombieland, yeah, exactly. And with that, the attack was over.
Thankfully, we managed to save two Jaegers left, two down, two left, and basically the apocalypse. No! Over the next few days, the team prepares for the final mission. Gypsy Danger and Striker are repaired.
The precursors, knowing about the plan now, release two more Cat 4 Kaijus, Scunner and Raiju. However, these ones act differently to any other Kaiju you've ever seen. They monitor and patrol the breach, protecting it. That's because they know the plan from Newt's head.
Stupid ass Newt. Newt fails to get a brain from the black market, but now there's a bloody Kaiju sitting in the middle of the city. Come on, man. So it decides to get into Hitachi to get to the second brain.
This takes time, however, to get to the second brain and they are hoping to be able to breach just before the mission goes ahead, but they don't really have the time. Further, it is revealed that she is pregnant. The Kaiju? The Kaiju is pregnant.
I thought you said they didn't have anything down there. They don't. But this one is. The Kaiju is pregnant.
It was basically, I think the idea of this Kaiju was to the newborn is to implant it in there and just because they think they're safe. The newborn comes out swinging. Basically, yeah. And that's what happens.
Very fortunately, the Kaiju jumps out, nearly killing Newt and Herman immediately, but it is, it chokes on its umbilical cord and dies. No! It's me! I came out blue, baby.
That's terrifying. It was. I don't remember it, so. I came out yellow.
Let's go! What were you green? Blue. That was predictive.
I just said green. Yeah. I came out good, you know? I came out well.
I was well-cooked. You were down. You were down. Peaked.
Peaked a bird. But, interestingly, they've just given this little, this Kaiju baby was supposed to be a terrible attack. Just gave them the resource they need. The baby Kaiju skull is much weaker than the adults, meaning they can access the proper brain and stick right into it.
Right up in that baby brain. So, they drift with the baby brain. Also, the baby wasn't outside. It doesn't know anything about the plan.
They're all the hive mind, guy. They're all connected. So it knows everything about everything because it's all the hive. That's why it was prepped for the mission as soon as it came.
Yeah, it makes it look fucking funny. They discover that the plan won't work. You can't just put a Mukulabomb down the breach. The breach is protected.
It's got security. You need a Kaiju DNA signature to make it through the breach. It's basically got like a firewall. What the fuck?
It won't let you throw out a Kaiju DNA signature. However, the mission's already begun. Snack of Pendergast warned years ago that if he ever piloted a Jaeger again, it would kill him. However, he has to replace Herc Hansen in Stryker as Herc is injured from his last fight.
He gives his final speech to motivate the team. Guy, you're next, right? It's just as yourself, right? It is as if it's possible.
Today, today, at the edge of our hope, at the end of our time, we have chosen not only to believe in ourselves, but in each other. Today, there is not a man nor woman in here that shall stand alone. Not today. Today, we face the monsters that are out of our door and we bring the fight to them.
Today, we are cancelling this apocalypse. Cancel culture's gone too far. Yeah, we cancelling the apocalypse now. That was good result, that was good.
I watched a lot of the gold documentary. He did a gold documentary that was just sponsored by the World Gold Council. Just him going with a bunch of eyes being like, gold, he's so good. You should buy some.
It's so fucking funny. Why is he just over here? Because he needed to fund the submission. Thankfully, the information about the need for the kaiju signature gets them just in time.
Just as they get to the breach, hey, at this point, Herman's kind of panicking because there should be three. As Matt says, there should be three, there should be three. And he's like, wow, imagine being wrong about something. Like, crazy.
Newt has no fucking right to be smart right now. He gave himself a brain injury trying to connect to a kaiju brain. But just as they get to the breach, a third signature comes through. Proving Herman right, and this is the first ever cat five kaiju.
Yes! Slattern. Slattern? Slattern, yeah.
That's a shit name. We got a big bastard. Big bastard. Big bastard.
So, it's now three against one. Three kaijus, two yeagers. Striker takes on Slattern, the cat five, and Skun. Skun.
Skun. While Gypsy focuses on Raiju. Gypsy manages to take out Raiju, but Striker Eureka has left no other choice. It is losing this fight.
It's being basically taken out immediately. They are forced to activate the bomb they bring into the breach. Killing them, and hoping to take out Skun and Slattern to give Gypsy a chance to get through the breach with Raiju's body and activate their own nuclear reactor as the bomb. Gypsy is the bomb.
Gypsy is the bomb. The blast is devastating, but however, Slattern survives. Ditching Raiju's corpse, Gypsy tackles Slattern into the breach. They are close quarterfights and manage to kill Slattern.
Gypsy arrives in the Antiverse. The Antiverse. That's what they call it. The Antiverse.
And self-destructs, destroying the kaiju creation factory and the breach. Nice. Riley and Mako miraculously survive. Wait, hold on.
The pilots? They eject. They eject out. Bear in mind, this is at the bottom of the ocean.
So they somehow eject. Not at the bottom of the ocean. The bottom of the Mariana Trem. The deepest part of the ocean.
And they somehow survive this little skateboard going. Especially because the whole thing they're running out of oxygen and Mako puts like Riley puts all the extra into Mako's stuff and he's like I don't need oxygen, I'm going to die. He doesn't eject but like he had no oxygen all the way up. How the fuck did he survive?
He shouldn't have. Oh, there's so many problems. Sorry, just pressurization as well. No, that's literally I have a diving license.
That's a whole fucking thing. They're going to be narco for like a week. Not sure you're narco is going to fucking annihilate. Especially because Riley doesn't appear in the next movie.
Yeah, she died of a brain injury. Whoever it is, I don't do shit. They really could have just had Riley die in the movie. They needed a good hug at the end though.
Yeah, yeah. That is the end of Pacific Rim. It's time. What happens next?
A lot of people end the movie, watch the movie, that's it. I mean, they hugged. What happens next? This is the question.
I'm going to give a quote to the chat. I think it's very amusing. Just quickly throw it in while you send us. When Izzy and I watched the movie recently, her first time watching it, we got to the end and she was like that was a really sick, stupid movie.
Awesome fights. I think the main character should have died at the end. It would have made it a better movie. I was like, yeah, she's real for that.
She just likes seeing people die. She does. Then I call her the Ness of Death and Herries. Oh, no.
What am I going for here? This is Jake Pentecost. This is the son of Saka. Yeah, so Josh by Yeager.
Lilith herself. Lilith, Lilith. Most of the world's recovered, but a few coastal cities never did and the world is still picking up the pieces. But some of us live better in a broken world and swatting in half a mansion is better than paying for some crappy apartment.
Now, in the relief zones, you have to get creative. Let's go. Yeah, so that is him. So this is the world that's come out of it.
Over the next 10 years, the Yeager program would be reinstated. Some believe this. Oh, it wasn't necessary. We closed the brakes.
It's done. With the Kaijus gone. But others wanted to be ready, just in case. We saw that there's aliens within 10 trying to get to our planet.
That's a pretty good fucking motivator. In absence of the Kaijus, the Yeagers are used for global defense. Yes. There are not many dates known over this time.
We'll get to some way. I'll mention no dates. But a lot of it's just like, general, this happened between these two times. So, Yeagers, again, not used for defense against Kaijus.
They are militarized and enforce the law, the PPDC law, and boy patrol. Over the years, Yeagers' parts have been salvaged and sold in the black market across the Kaiju war. Basically, if a Yeager goes down, you've got to get to it to get the pieces. Wait, Kaiju parts or Yeager parts?
Yeager parts. Okay. Did I say Yeager parts? Yeah.
Cool, it's Yeager parts. I mean, also Kaiju parts, but Yeager parts are a lot of good. I mean, Kaiju parts, they're limited now. Yeah.
Some civilians took in their hands and constructed their own personal Yeagers to protect themselves. Nice open source, let's go. So, yeah, if you're a rich enough crime boss, you can get a Yeager. You can get a pieces, you build your own.
I get it, the crime bosses, but I feel like they'd be confiscated immediately. I feel like it's the tech billionaires that are going to start building them. Yeah. I can't wait for the even better part.
But it's a little bit of our own ones. So, you've got to keep on. Also, usually the Yeagers are built like, aren't as big as the... They're like, small versions.
Yeah, we've got to hang us on there. If anyone else, it's a little structure, it's a tech... So, this is a quote for you, Kai? Who?
I think this is also Jack, so. The Pan-Pacific defense core usually looks the other way as long as you don't go poking around where you don't belong. Say, you like a decommissioned Yeager scrapyard. Big risks do mean big rewards, though.
And nothing pays more than stolen Yeager tech. Plenty of nutcases out there trying to slap together their own Yeagers. But they do need the parts to do it. So, if you can steal what no one else can steal, you can live like a king.
Yep. So, groups like the Sisters of the Kaiju, cults worshipping them, are still around. They're basically preaching the return of the Kaijus. They will return one day.
At least two Mark V Yeagers are created. So, this is Bracer, Phoenix, and Kronos, Berserker. So, there's also those Kaijus that came from a video game that are in the books or the movies. Yeagers, you mean?
Sorry? Yeagers from the... Yeagers, sorry. Yeagers are the minifigures of the video game.
You're right, sorry. We have two more official Mark V Yeagers. These are on the same level as Stryker. On December 12, 2033, we know that Mark VI Yeager Guardian Braavillac...
Mark VI! Mark VI. This is the only one we know when it was built, but presumably it wasn't the first that I mentioned being the first. Also, it's pretty late to build the first Mark VI.
You should have heard the Mark VI years ago before this, right? The other Mark VI we include include Typhan Redeemer, Gypsy Avenger, November, Ajax, Valor Amiga, and Murdovich. Fucking Murdovich? Murdovich.
Bumblebee. The Mark VIs were the pinnacle of human invention, being sleeker frames and with high octane burst receptors developed for speed and velocity. They can move in ways the previous Yeagers just couldn't. This is how they justify how it looks in the movies and they're like, it's just new tech, that's why they're so fast.
The problem with this is when fighting, when they're fighting in that size and weight, it doesn't feel right and it looks like they're fake or it looks like Transformers. This is like literally Christmas. If you look at any, if you look at Pithervo Rising Fights and look at the comments on YouTube, it'll just be like, everyone's like, the idea's really cool, but they don't look right, they don't feel right because they're moving too fast. The whole thing about Pacific Rim originally, there's going to be these big mechanical beasts that are very difficult, they're huge, and that was like how cool they were because of how just like enormous they felt, they felt right.
Whereas when you have such a high camera angle on a bright day and this thing is moving like a human, it doesn't feel right. Yeah, yeah, it's not clunky. It needs to be clunky for brains to feel it. It feels too good.
The reason why the first Iron Man suit is always the coolest in the way than Infinity War Iron Man because nanotech just makes no sense visually in the style. I prefer the old Spider-Man costumes than the new ones. It doesn't feel real. Totally, totally.
Because it's not. And your brain somehow knows it. It's a design thing in, I know it from UI design and from video games where it's like, a gun will feel better in a video game if it's not only just like bang, it makes a noise you see someone's first animation that's like a two-frame like a shotgun, but the best ones are like the Doom ones where you shoot it and the whole screen shakes and there's a lot of that feedback stuff where it looks like it's supposed to. It makes sense in my brain and it's satisfying.
If it's too smooth, it feels bad. Also, the new Jaegers are packed full of a lot more weaponry with Gypsy Avenger in particular having two nuclear generators in memory of Gypsy Danger. Li Wenxiao comes up with the idea for Jaeger drones to be created. Unmanned Jaegers they can be mass-reduced and outpace any Kaiju invasion.
Basically, they can be remotely piloted. So the pilot, there's still a pilot doing it, but they're remotely doing it. That sounds so much better, right? But still.
Herman joined this team to lead and make sure it happened. But some of his ideas did get rejected for example using Kaiju blood as propulsion fuel was rejected. Kaiju blood. I mean, they've got to find something to do with it.
Also, it's a limited source. What are you doing? It's a limited source. It's stupid.
It's about manufacturing it. It has very active elements. Especially with minerals. It reacts to power.
Sorry, let's say Herman joins I mean Newt. I was going to say that sounds like a Newt thing. Newt joined this team. Newt joined this team.
This is Newt and this is Charlie Day. Charlie Day joined this team. This idea would save lives and cost... across the world, just as the idea of the walls would.
The world starts to turn to the drones, but to be fair, this does sound more realistic than the wall. The wall was a hope and dream. This actually sounds like it could work. Even with the impressive Mark VI Jaegers, the cheaper choice is what the world leans on.
On December 20th, 2033, the experimental saver Athena is launched. This is why I don't believe that the other one is the first Mark VI, because it's literally eight days later. So why are we making Mark VII when we just made Mark VI? So I believe that's a late.
So this is the experimental Mark VII. On January 12th, 2034, Gypsy Avengers... Oh, sorry, by the way, so that Mark VII is actually like, they always grab it as the best... Sorry, here it is.
The Sleek is the most elegant Jaeger ever created, saver Athena is the fastest in the fleet, wheeling twin blades in hyper-acrobatic combat. Again, it makes sense to have a bad attack, but it doesn't look right when you see it. Hypo-acrobatic is not something I want on my big robots. He likes to be flips over the cages, and I'm like, that's not...
We're a Transformer, you know? But yeah, so, on 12th, Gypsy Avengers has been constructed. That's another Mark VI. So on March 2nd, Jake Pentecost, the strange son of legend Saka Pentecost, to give a bit of backstory to him, he was a pilot, he was a pilot, but tried to prove it to his dad, because his dad always gave way more attention to Mako than him, and he kind of felt like he was in a shadow all the time, especially when his dad literally pretty much that.
I mean, is she called him? Yeah. And then, so he decided to try, he was being a cadet, and he tried to, like, pile Diego on his own, like, break a profile, and it went really badly, so he was kicked out of the school. And that's when he kind of, like, I'm gone, bye family, I'm out of here, and joined the Black Market and worked with them.
Makes sense. Yeah. He breaks into a crime boss, Giovanni Capolo's, mansion, to steal Stryker Rika's driftcore. This was found after it was at the bottom of the Marriott Trench, somehow recovered.
These Black Market guys are fucking determined. Watches up somewhere eventually. Yeah, probably. Well, it detonated a nuke, so it would have been blown out, and then it just it's a lie, it exists.
But Jake basically drifts with it to experience the memories from his father. So he does it to, like, connect with his father a bit like that, and kind of appreciate him a little more to try and see, I'm trying to understand his father. He sees, like, a couple memories like he's, like, I think he's, like, his seventh birthday and stuff like that, so he sees a couple things. He also sees, finally he sees, like, Herc and Chuck Hanson's memories as well, because they were connected to others.
Yeah, so he sees Chuck Hanson's memories from that, he also sees Herc, so Herc connects to Chuck. So it's kind of like that combo of line of memories. Anyway, interestingly, around this time, a few small kaijus, faster and smaller versions start to appear. This is the first time we've seen kaijus, exactly, kaijus.
This is the first time we've seen kaijus since the breach. They were like, what the fuck, where the fuck did this come from, right? This is another breach. These are an attempt, a homemade attempt to make home-grown kaijus.
Who? Why? From the kaiju DNAs. Kaiju lovers, there's cults who love these kaijus.
There's also, like, black-marked people, like, imagine I had a pet kaiju, you know? Oh, I'm stupid. This is also a mix between kaiju DNA and human DNA to make them more intelligent. This idea is kind of short-lived.
That's like a fucking smart, I'm sure. The kaijus are killed off. Good, Jesus. Now in 2035, we've kind of arrived at the start of the movie.
So Jake Pentecost and Amara Nomani, who is, we mentioned her, she's a black-market Jaeger engineer who built her own small Jaeger, are arrested and recruited by the Secretary-General, Mako Mori. Nice. He's adopted sister. Get in there.
Jake is to pilot Gypsy Danger with his former co-pilot, Nate, who they're kind of strange because they were... Wait, Gypsy Danger or Gypsy Avenger? Gypsy Avenger. Gypsy Avenger.
So basically, they were like, Nate's going to be pissed because he made a bond with his best friend, and we were supposed to be pilots together, and you fucking fucked us up for both of us. So he's still around being a pilot, but with Jake back, they're kind of bonding, and they're going to be the Gypsy Avenger team. So the... Avengers.
They've got to get them. I don't know. The fleet of drone Jaegers are finally completed, and Lee Wen wants to present them to the world. So there's a summit for the PPTC in Sydney.
So this is where the final decision will be made, whether we'll use them or not. So Mako Mori is the one who will make the decision. She's the Secretary-General of the whole program. She'll make the decision.
However, just as they're presenting these Jaegers to the world, a rogue Jaeger, dubbed Obsidian Fury, attacks the summit in Sydney. Oh, now we're cooking with the Kaju names. Let's go. It's a fucking Jaeger.
Obsidian Fury attacks the Kaju. And sadly, in this attack, Mako Mori is killed. Very sad. This attack and the death of Mako prompts the PPTC to implement the drones ASAP.
They need them in action. If we have rogue Jaegers out there to fight, we need these in action ASAP. But was it not one of the drones that went there? It was just a rogue Jaeger.
It was people who built them. They don't know where it comes from. They assume someone's piloting it. Someone's built and piling it.