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EPISODE · Nov 17, 2025 · 35 MIN

Packers in Mirror are Farther Away Than They Appear | Packers Therapy #491

from Packers Talk · host Dave Erickson, Chris Richards

Chris and Dave stumble into an emergency session of Packers Therapy just minutes after a 27–26 win that somehow felt like losing a bet with a raccoon. Yes, the Packers won. No, they didn’t look good doing it. And yes, the Giants did everything short of gift-wrapping the game in deli paper and handing it over with a side of pastrami.The guys break down a game that featured:Seven dropped passes,Four should’ve-been interceptions,Two missed extra points,A backup QB giving the offense CPR,And a defense tackling like they’re afraid of knees.Jordan Love was equal parts wizard and Wile E. Coyote. Malik Willis came in and immediately made the offense look like it had taken a caffeine pill. The receivers dropped balls like they were trying to cool them off in the Hudson. Musgrave, bless him, might be the first tight end in league history to run a 6.4 forty without moving backwards.And the defense? Well… tackling high is apparently part of the religious identity now. Quay Walker is still allergic to wrapping up. Keisean Nixon remains a pass interference subscription service. Parsons looks like a guy who’s deeply regretting every life choice that didn’t end with him staying in Dallas.Chris and Dave unpack all of it: the weird spark Willis provides, the baffling coaching decisions, the “underthrown ball = guaranteed DPI” hack, the punter audition gone sideways, and whether Ed Policy has already begun pricing out life rafts.It’s a win, technically. Emotionally? That’s between you, your football therapist, and several cheap drinks.Packers Therapy #490 — where wins feel like losses, losses feel like crimes, and every Sunday is a group session. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/packerstherapyPayPal: [email protected] its first show in 2005, Packers Therapy is the longest-running Packers podcast on the Internet. Hosts Chris and Dave began the show as a way of capturing the spirited chats the two co-workers had about the team around the office. The two have no pretense about being experts: they are just two opinionated shareholders who love the team, follow it closely, but don’t always see the Packers fortunes eye to eye.The guys encourage comments and questions via their Twitter feed @PackersTherapy or email to [email protected] and read and respond to as many as they can during each show.Packers Therapy is a part of the Packers Talk family of podcasts, serving up five distinct podcasts to satisfy the most fervent of Packer fans. Variety is the spice of life, so subscribe to Packers Talk on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. You can also follow Packers Talk on Twitter and Facebook. 

The Packers win a chaotic 27–26 game, and Chris & Dave break down every dropped pass, missed kick, bad tackle, strange coaching decision, and Malik Willis spark in a classic Packers Therapy meltdown.

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