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EPISODE · Mar 9, 2026 · 18 MIN

Paid Testimonials, Gift Cards & a 3.5 Hour Drive: What Really Happens When You Fight Big Money at the Capitol

from Real Estate Called Out · host Wendy, Founder of Selling Later

What happens when a Silicon Valley company offers homeowners $50 Amazon gift cards to submit favorable testimony to a state legislature, and doesn't disclose it? I watched it happen in real time.In this episode, I'm telling the full story of the day I drove 3.5 hours to the Pennsylvania State Capitol to testify in support of HB 2120, a bill that would require home equity investments (HEIs), also called shared appreciation agreements or home equity sharing agreements, to be regulated as mortgage products under Pennsylvania's usury law.What I witnessed was a masterclass in how money, lobbyists, and carefully placed friendships work behind the scenes to slow down consumer protections. And it got picked up by Spotlight PA.We cover:What home equity agreements actually are — and why the math should scare youWhy these products aren't regulated as loans in most states (yet)How Point, one of the largest HEI companies, offered customers $50 gift cards to submit written testimony — without disclosing the paymentsWhy one company CEO couldn't tell a legislative committee how much a consumer would owe on his own productThe Urban Institute report the industry cited — and what it actually saidWhy the National Association of Realtors was nowhere to be found (and why that's worth asking about)What this fight says about how consumer protection legislation actually works — and who's really in your cornerIf you took out a home equity investment or shared appreciation agreement and have a balloon payment coming, you need to understand what's at stake. And if you haven't taken one out yet — listen before you do.Mentioned in this episode:PA Representative Arvind VenkatHB 2120 (Pennsylvania House Commerce Committee)Spotlight PA: "A Silicon Valley firm offered gift cards as part of a campaign to defeat Pa. regulation"David Friend, former CFPB CounselNational Consumer Law CenterCommunity Legal Services of PhiladelphiaGot a question?Support the showState laws and regulations may vary.Have a story you would like to share with other sellers or buyers?Hit us up here.

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