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EPISODE · Nov 12, 2025 · 22 MIN

Paid vs. Organic Marketing: What Actually Works for Painting Contractors | Matt Kuyper | EP.8

from Quick Hits: Rollout Marketing · host Rollout Marketing

What do painting contractors really think about marketers? In this candid episode, Brad Ellison welcomes Matt Kuyper, minority owner of Harpeth Painting in Nashville, for an honest discussion about marketing strategies that work—and those that don't.Matt's company grew from $0 to $12.5 million in seven years by testing aggressively, failing fast, and doubling down on what works. He shares real-world insights on the difference between paid and organic marketing, when to invest in each, and how to generate high-quality leads without spending a fortune.Key Topics:The biggest complaints contractors have about marketers (over-promising, under-delivering, too many rocket emojis)What good marketers do well: domain expertise, staying on the cutting edge, sharing best practicesOrganic lead generation tactics: networking groups, reactivation campaigns, gym memberships, builder relationshipsThe benefits of paid marketing: scalability, predictability, and ROI when done rightWhy Facebook didn't work for Harpeth Painting (but Google crushed it)When you should invest in paid marketing (hint: when you hire your first salesperson)Guest: Matt Kuyper, Minority Owner of Harpeth PaintingHost: Brad Ellison, Rollout Marketing📱 CONNECT WITH US:Website: https://rolloutmarketing.comInstagram: https://instagram.com/rollout.marketingLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/rolloutmarketingEmail: [email protected]🔔 ABOUT ROLLOUT MARKETING:Rollout Marketing is a full-service marketing agency exclusively for painting contractors. Our team helps painting businesses grow through effective marketing strategies, automation tools, and industry-specific expertise.🎙️ Subscribe to Quick Hits for more insights on growing your painting business!#PaintingContractors #BusinessGrowth #ContractorMarketing #RolloutMarketing

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What do painting contractors really think about marketers? In this candid episode, Brad Ellison welcomes Matt Kuyper, minority owner of Harpeth Painting in Nashville, for an honest discussion about marketing strategies that work—and those that don't. Matt's company grew from $0 to $12.5 million in seven years by testing aggressively, failing fast, and doubling down on what works. He shares real-world insights on the difference between paid and organic marketing, when to invest in each, and ho...

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