You're listening to the Wisps wasatch in wasatch investigative studies wasatch investigative studies a paranormal science show Which apparently is got another acronym for a super natural hour of what why you doing this to me man? Peter follow a recording yeah, I'm kind of sad that I miss the first part of you like look you just Still watch me like make out with my microphone Tims like wickedness microphone follow the leader and I could follow the leader I can hit record by fast enough Hey, welcome to the wish show we initially our first opener that we did yesterday We talked about just using the same opener and then the more thought about it That's probably bad idea because you guys will think it's the same show and shut it off So we figured we do a new opener in this episode It's gonna be a continuation of our last episode and this episode we're gonna have some other guests Will you talk to was a saint yesterday? Dr. Brian cano cano You are bad with names.
I know right anyway in this episode you're gonna get a psychic reading of castle And to it already get it right man. She was still on the line she would punch you in the nose But we've had some fantastic guests over the last two days and yes, we're recording our opener after we've done all these We talked about in one of these interviews that we're just gonna be on but he was unable to join us So shout out to her to his not here. It's a feed-on. Yeah, I'm sort of fun.
It's involved. Yeah Love you learn arrested jail sex vendor registry. I don't know many things are said there were puppets involved Puppets and nudity anyway before we get going we do want to talk about these guests are from the Utah paranormal Expo It's will be coming up October 7th and so you want to start with the one that happened second? I want the happens first to be second What okay?
You're all sorts of special. I know it's been a long day. So we're actually talking about two events Tim What you talk about your event for two events who went emphasized? Hmm?
Good God, what is wrong with you? I know it is. It's just me and you recording. There's no filter.
There's no filter There's no filter. So the first event that we have coming up is the metaphysical Expo Which is going to be held on Saturday September 16th at the Southtown Expo Center in San Diego Utah located on 9400 South no 990 9400 South and 6th Street I've had to try and find me and I'm not reading it for me At that particular Expo, you're gonna have special guests Elizabeth Saint D. Day Justin Hoffman Brian Cano ball Kadam Someone named Julie who's a cambo master and she's actually one of our interviews So you'll kind of get here from her we've actually arranged for her to be a full-time like a full-hour show She'll be should be a returning near future on our show Barry Strom and I Analee Who is a sensitive author and a occultist? Those are just some of the guests that you can expect to see at that metaphysical Expo Leave the tickets for this for general mission is $10 and I get to all the panels and the the booth the vendor booth If you want to see the actual guest speakers talk It's gonna be a $35 ticket, but that's gonna get you everything the the guest speakers the pals and the booth And then the second event which is also related to the first event is the paranormal Expo Which will be held Saturday October 7th 2017 also at the Southtown Expo Center And the guests for that event some of them are the same guests as the first one But you'll have Elizabeth Saint Rosemary Guelewe who has held Kylie.
Holy, holy, holy. How it's been a long day Yourself together. Thank you. Rosemary Guelewe who is co-authored some books with John's Fs DJ just DJ just Justin Hoffman.
Thank you. Do you want me to read it? Do you got there? I'm good.
I'm good. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm just gonna add it all the way up anyway. Robie Belly Kelsel needs a wisecream.
I'll need a nap. Chase you have a investigator We'll have Bal Qinman. He's an author and a cultist and that's actually a pen name. That's not his real name But his picture looks freaking awesome.
Yeah, it's awesome. Julie who's a Campbell master and we had a fantastic She's an amazing person and I'm really excited to actually sit down with her again and have a full on interview with her It's gonna be phenomenal. I've actually got some some self anger towards myself because we asked her a question So anger towards yourself, huh? Yes, does that like self love towards yourself?
Yeah, but kind of the opposite Okay, but we actually in between We're still angry love she was here kind of hanging out We asked her a question and we had like a good 20-30 minute conversation that I wish we would record it because it was Phenomenal. Yeah, she's so because Castle was dumb. We invited her back. Yeah Well, we said we're gonna turn into he was dumb and didn't record the conversation So I'm glad though because it's benefits you all because we'll actually have her on a full-time guess for our full hour You guys need to hear what she has to say it's she's experienced a lot in her life And it's it's amazing.
Oh, I know that since talking to her and frog venom Timon Like I'm thinking of the whole time we're talking to her was the episode family guy where the toad's going around James was high and they're all getting high off of the con toes I was thinking be a son but I had another time like the toad Very strum will be there and who's actually putting this together will be there. She's an occultist sensitive and author Jen who is a pet psychic Laurie who's a crystal healer Robin who's a crystal healer and Amberlyn who's a crystal healer I'm also we've got and some of our guest Turn it over everyone that we interviewed or that you'll be hearing in the next episode or two or three three They should all be at one or the other if not both of these expose and we only interviewed a fraction of the number of these guests It looks to be a phenomenal event. We're really excited. I can't wait to attend both these events Yeah, so now that we've done that I think my favorite guest so far is was I have to say Ruth to be honest with you I mean we talked to Liz was saying and Ryan cano who were on TV and like celebrities But you know, I'm really excited for you guys to hear what Ruth has to say and how she works with horses.
Yeah, and you're welcome Laura Yes, I'm Shayla. I've already texted Laura and I'm like hey We're talking to this lady that does energy cleansing with horses like you're gonna love this lady And she's like oh my god, we're already so well enough with anticipation Let's get on with the shell and again. We've kind of recorded this in segments So just be prepared that we're probably gonna be introducing ourselves. You can hear us a lot going hi I'm Gary and this is damn or you might hear Castle and beaker Yeah, but it's there a lot it's very depend how much caffeine we've had to be in a beach interview I've been through leader soda so now that being said let's get on with the show alright The next guest we have up here is Rob Barnes Rob tell us a little bit about yourself.
You're coming to the printable Expo here in October Tell us a little bit who you are or guess know who you are and what they can expect from you Looking forward to the Expo I specialize in astrology and I've been studying that for quite a few years and that's kind of what I do full-time now and It's been quite a process to get to that point and I change your careers and so on and I just enjoyed that kind of being my main thing so it tells us a little bit about astrology. How did you get involved in astrology? Kind of a funny story. I've had one reading This is probably somewhere.
I don't exactly remember around maybe 2005 to 2007 Remember a couple things from that but then in late 2007 Had another reading and kind of created a relationship with the astrologer so for a little while that was I was My introduction to it was really learning a lot about me and kind of seeing how it works and watching her do sessions and And I just answered so many questions for me just that first reading with her that I just really thought on board with what I can learn and and then just I've used it since then for anyone that I've met and own children family relationships friends just to really understand how it works and other people's lives in my own and Kind of used it as a compass for my own life So let me ask I'm actually not terribly familiar with astrology Explained to me how astrology works. I'm familiar some of the other things that are like that But astrology is that just position of planets is there an energy component to it? Is there a metaphysical component to it kind of explain to the layperson what astrology is exactly? Really you could answer the question in all three of those areas, but Typically what you're going to look at is the time that you're born where were the planets in the skies?
So the exact time you're born Creates what we would call your rising sign so the sign that was actually rising in the east This becomes kind of like your handshake to the world or kind of like your walk and billboard So even though I'm a Pisces the sign that was rising was a sign Scorpio And so help people would see me as a Scorpio more so than the Pisces that get to know me They get to know the Pisces side So and then you have where are the other planets in the sky? They're all going to be in different signs and The planet kind of rules over that different part of your personality the sign kind of flavors that that heart of your personality And so in astrologer takes all that information and starts to Read and discuss about those things meet the planets interact with each other in certain ways Causes your personality to behave in a certain way So for instance now are you able to like say a reading just based off someone's like name birthday kind of thing Or what do you require to use astrology? So the place you're born the date and the time okay? Tim can we pick on you for a minute and uh sure throw your sacrificial lamb sure why not if we're able to give you Tim's information Can you do something with that?
Sure. Well, let's do it Tim laid all out there. Well, so I was born on August 12th in 1982 um in sullie city As far as the exact time goes, I think it was in the morning. I don't know the exact time though And so An astrologer can work with a chart without a time.
There's just some information that I wouldn't be able to access without it For instance the rising sign Um, but there's there's a few things that we can still do even even without time I've read many times without without the time And the thing that I love about astrology is um, it's your chart whether you have the time or not The chart still has something to say okay So let's Bring up my app and I'll plug that as details in But if you were to even I guess like the time of the morning, I'll put something in it may not we may not use it at all But um, I can still put something in tell me kind of estimate of time What do you think content? I I want to say it was like six in the morning or something like that. I can text my mom and see if she remembers Yeah, go ahead and do that and I'll start anyway and then if you get the information before we're done then Then I'll just update it one of the interesting points Already that without plugging in all the details yet is What's going on the skies right now since your birthday is august 12 then your birthday falls between two eclipses the lunar eclipse and then what many people are calling the great american eclipse the lunar eclipse falls on the seventh of august and Solar eclipse falls on the 21st and these it's the first time that we've had this solar eclipse go across america in As direct as it is in the last hundred years and that just seems like you know a whole bunch of kind of useless information unless you figure out What how does it apply to you? And since your birthdays are so close to it it would affect you You know how it would affect you we would also take a look at Like what part of the sky it takes place in your chart or these are the areas of life where you could expect these changes So when you say it's gonna affect him does that mean when we get that eclipse him's gonna puke his name for a half hour Yeah, everything's gonna look hard to know what the blood moon will rise I'll turn into a wolf So here's what happens like with the lunar eclipse you're kind of looking back backwards because I mean that rules kind of our past and And so we're going to be looking backwards to see well There was something that was started or something that was taking place Maybe even up to like six months ago that today would be kind of unshaky ground and And that would be coming to a resolution so it's unshaky ground.
I mean it's either going to Conclusion or it's going to become more concrete. Okay, so for instance, I just met with someone Two days ago who this happens in their Location of their chart that deals with romance and dating And this was something that is on shaky ground from six months ago Well as we started exploring that she started a relationship six months ago And it just so happens that in a week's time she's moving in with the person So funny that you know this shows up as kind of unshaky ground what you're going to do with it It's going to and or it's going to become permanent. She's moving into the person almost exactly on the eclipse or the lunar eclipse Well, it's interesting. Yeah, so anything else that you're seeing there with them So the next thing would be the solar eclipse which takes place on the point first And that's going to be more of a kind of a course correction So you could expect within this next year In this area of life that some big changes wanted to take place And so uh, we can circle back and look for the time it was your birth to figure out what part of life that's when you're taking place up So I wish I knew exactly I don't That's fine.
We can use that like 620 in the morning like it's kind of standing on my head But I don't know if it's completely accurate. I'm still waiting for my parents to get back to me See if they know. Yeah, so I've put together your your your chart and that just used a time Um, but I'm not going to necessarily use that time in a reading But what I do see is where the planets are laid out Um, and so I can get the different planets and the different signs for instance, you know that your sun is at 19 degrees leo And we can make up a story just on on that alone like leo would be Ruled by the sun and as we know the sun rises in the sky and when the sun's in the sky, there's really nothing else in the sky And you could almost say well You rise and you're meant to shine and what does the sun do but provides vitality to everything around it So you would kind of have that personality where you really do shine and you provide that that vitality for the people You can almost say the party doesn't start but you put there That's about right So go ahead. I thought the transition coming in Tim's life was an actual transition, but this sounds probably a little better So Because moon is in paris and the moon would be if the sun kind of represents what I know to be true about me The moon represents well, but here's how I feel And this is how I process the world around me emotionally and the moon which is pretty unique to him You and I have the exact same moon placement.
Okay, so your moon is a 19 degrees paris my moon's at 19 degrees taurus and um, and so the moon um In taurus, that's like one of the strongest places where i'm going to be Um, if you think of one taurus takes place. It's the middle of spring. I'm sorry It's the middle season of spring Uh, so here we're we're looking at you know, what's taking place. It's all the science the sounds Uh, your aromas, um, you know, it's a beautiful time of year and so we're really looking at all the senses And since it's your moon and this is the place where you're comfortable.
This is the place you would retreat to for comfort It's all about your senses You know chances are you want you want the good food you want the good music you want your surroundings to be very comfortable So I remember one time that was one time. I got my truck and my truck and I had the stereo I had the nice seats and it was just heaven because I was sitting in my heaven You're pretty much describing what I just bought two years ago. I bought an expedition I put you know brand new dvd players in a subs to replace the entire Stereo equipment well then yeah for me that is exactly the same like my truck is like my safe space I can also test the fact that Tim definitely likes good food Yeah, I'm actually going to vegas next week and it's not for the gambling of the children thing I'm actually going down there just for the food. Yeah Yeah, it's funny and since moon kind of represents how you kind of nurturing qualities like all of my kids you know the sleepovers were at my house and part of my joy was you know making breakfast for all the kids that stuff over and I became known as you know that dad that that made all these meals and just I wanted to take care of people but it was kind of taking care of them through food and comfort Yeah, I'm the exact same way.
We're actually doing a barbecue. We did one already this year and we're doing another one where I've done a barbecue mainly just so I can like cook food for people and I like I love cooking for people and I love seeing people enjoying what I make and I know Casa couldn't attest to this because I bring some pretty damn good ribs to our barbecues. Yeah, I'm gonna be chilling on the side. I don't think so.
I've got a trigger now. Please, please. Yeah, I'm the exact same way. I love cooking for people and seeing just like the excitement and joy they have on their face when they eat and get food.
Yep, and so without knowing you haven't ever met you or anything just those two old pieces the sun and the moon you know I can start making a description of you know the parts of your personality and then each of the other planets they all rule different areas as well and and so during a reading I can go in and start discussing each of those areas with a client and you know it's one thing to say yeah yeah that's not what I want someone to just walk away from a reading saying oh yeah you just told me about me you know there becomes something well what's the story what's what's there's a purpose there's some challenges you know what is it you know why would someone come and see me and what is it that they need either guidance for you know or some kind of answers and so those are the types of things that I get into when I do a reading so that when they leave they have something to hold on to. Well now let me ask you and we're running out of time here so I'm going to let you go here in a second but if someone wanted to contact you for a reading how could they go about doing that. A couple of different ways my website is astrologybyrobb.com pretty easy to remember astrologybyrobb.com and then on Facebook they can find me rob barns or they can search for at rob.astrologer. Fantastic and if we can kind of ask and I'll move this as appropriate or not if it's not tell me we can cut it out later but what what are rates like on something like that if someone wanted to contact you to be reading them.
Yeah so we usually start with the natal chart reading which gives me a good insight into who you are and where you came from and why you're here today. So natal chart reading typically lasts up to an hour and then I charge $99 for that. Well that's not bad that's reasonable for something like that. Fantastic well we appreciate coming on as a guest we look forward to seeing you at the Purnham Alex Bell and hopefully we want to that rolls around we can actually sit down with you face to face and we'll do a little bit more in depth interview.
That would be awesome. Hey thanks Rob. Okay thank you guys. All right bye bye.
Take care. Why would you do that? Why wouldn't I do that? I was paying attention.
We're here with Gary and Kathy. And Kathy Lafitte. Lafitte. Okay cool.
It's French for the feet. It is French. It's French. For Kathy LaPothos.
I think she's about to kick my ass. She's going to use a little feet to kick my little butt. She looks so nice but I kind of sense a killer in this one. This is why you like he's got some mediumship to him at all.
It's intuitive. He's right next to her. I'm going to have him leave the interview and make an ass himself so she can she's right there she can kick him. Like I said she looks mean so I'm having you leave the picture.
You're like kicking your finger. Are you afraid of her? No well she's like so cute but then she just says like there's a glint in her eye that says I'm shaking. Are you sure it wasn't the twitch?
It's the nervous twitch and the daggers in your eyes is what's really got them scared. So why don't you tell us a little about yourself and what it is that you do? Okay well I'm a healer by nature. That's what I came here to this planet to do.
And I've chosen different modes to do this in and what I'm coming on here to do tonight. What I talked about today is the new mode that I'm doing it with which is Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique. So I'm a practitioner of this technique which was developed by the world renowned past-oresianist therapist Dolores Cannon. And so with this particular modality we're able to empower other people in making changes in their lives.
And so for me my mission on this earth is to let people shine their light be who they're authentically supposed to be without all the garbage that the system and society has placed upon them. And then we can move that to the side, declutter them, and access their higher selves. And so with the Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique we do is we take them into a deep trance. The most hypnosis therapies they stay in the light trance.
And so they they access some stuff, they work with some habits and whatnot but what we do with this technique is take them into the Summulistic level which is going to be the state of brain level and it's going to access that consciousness that has access to the universe. So they can access anything they want, healings, information, guidance, and that's where I like to have them work because when we take them and just with their consciousness to the side and allow that just to either be a witness at once or to completely go to the background and allow their higher self to come through they can get so much information about why things are happening in their lives. So if they have problems in their relationships they're having not understanding what direction to go in their path of career. So it's kind of like the intuitive do but we kind of go a little one step further because they get to channel their own information.
I just really get to be a guide for them. So they come in with pre-done questions that we can ask so they can ask anything from life purpose to okay why did I get placed with my family, what's going on with my you know why why may I have these difficulties with parents and childhood issues that they've had because a lot of people hold on to that stuff and it affects them in life. So we get to go back in and they will be guided where they're supposed to be guided so this is also past life regression so you can go into past life whether it be this one ones from long time ago but whatever information that they need to help them in this lifetime because this is the most important one. And so with this they get to ask the why it's not just okay this is happening but why is it happening?
Why am I experiencing this ailment disease or something that's going on in their body they get to find out why and then guide in how to get out of it which is really empowering and then depending on how you evolve the R is a spirit they can really tap into some really awesome information that comes outside universal stuff. So how is it that you got into this or that you knew that this is what you were meant to do like this is why you're your own nerd. That's the first thing you said is the reason why I'm on earth is to do this is how did you come to that realization? I gotta say that the first thing I got to me is to talk about hypnotizing it whether or not we're gonna make you act like a chicken on your shoulder.
If you want to hypnotize me great but that's later. And I'll click like a chicken without being hypnotized. I can see this actually. It's the six foot chicken.
He's the entertainment. I can see this. Great. I'm a comic really if that's why I'm on the show.
And you know what's so beautiful actually about this hypnosis technique is it is not the stage hypnosis as fun as it is. That's because it's funny it is. Yeah. And actually it's beautiful is that hypnosis we're hypnotized every day of our life pretty much throughout the whole entire day.
We're in a light trance. You're driving your light trance. You're watching TV you're in your light trance. So there's nothing ever telling me to buy this Coca-Cola this delicious.
Never. Never. It's on TV. Yeah.
Your life will be turned right side up and you drink that Coca-Cola. It tastes good when it's warm. So yeah it's very therapeutic. Sorry I didn't mean to hijack him this question.
How did you get involved in this? It's been a process actually. I didn't realize it was funny because you know you guys are with the paranormal group and I was just telling a step earlier I said I actually wanted to be a paranormal investigator when I was younger. And because there was so much going on and it was not it was really heavy stuff I knew I had to go a different direction because I'm like I need to stop meddling in there because there's a lot of lower realm entities happening on this planet.
And so life just kind of shifted me in such a way and I started off in the industry as a massage therapist and through that revolution revolution evolution I'm noticing but I've discovered energy healing and with that information then it's kind of evolved and I realize I can't really do anything with somebody's body because most of the time what's going on with the body is that they're holding emotionally. And so in order to remove the energy we have to go into the energy body remove those blocks first go to the mental body remove those blocks and because the physical bodies where it lands last. And so I'm like man if we got to do some deep work and then it was just like we got to do soul work soul work soul work. So what it's about it's about moving all that all the belief systems of you can't do this it's can't happen it can't be healed or sane it's permanent it's like no nothing's permanent because we're energy bodies everything is energy all it has to do is be shifted and manipulated and you can remove it and you can heal from anything if you believe it.
One percent belief will stop it so we want to take the mind and that's the kind of work that I got into it was emotional recognition therapy is saying okay so you have a circumstance that every circumstance has so many ways you can view it. One way is going to create pain another way can create possibilities and say maybe I don't have to see it that way maybe I don't have to hold on to the pain and the blame I can actually look at self and so the evolution of saying we need to be responsible for self and so with the quantum healing hypnosis it just allowed one step further of saying okay now you're going to hear the information come through your own mouth it's not coming from my mouth and so you could say well she said that but I don't believe it because this and this and this and this is how I grew up and so I say no now we get to put you in the driver's seat and access your own advice and validity and you can hear it goes inside you it permeates throughout yourselves every programs I've seen life-changing miraculous things that happen I've experienced it personally other people have just they've changed their lives because they're like wow I get it now and so we get to tap into the higher consciousness and sometimes the higher consciousness is we get to tap into the collective universal consciousness which has a lot of information of the first to tap into so that goes in hand in hand with the paranormal world because it's we just tap into higher energy higher frequencies it has more information. I'm kind of afraid if you put cats on the driver's seat he's probably gonna drive us off hit. He might drive himself off the cliff.
So let me ask you what one of these healing sessions how how would one of these sessions progress I mean like if Tim showed up for a healing session what exactly would you do and what would that look like if I was standing in the corner of the room. I mean I would run away in fear. Yes pretty much. I walk in and she'd be like uh no.
If you're walking clicking like a chicken. I imagine her and like every guest that we've talked to the last couple days just looking at me going there's no she's not going to fix that in the universe. That's the kind of what he'd be expecting as he comes in first of all we got to get to know each other. We're gonna have a report we're gonna sit down it's pretty much a full day experience it could take anywhere from four to seven eight hours a day because we got to get to know each other and through that knowing each other we're gonna discover some information that's going to be really valuable that may show up during a session.
He comes prepared with a list of questions that he wants to know that's going off the slide that's going to assist him so he can move forward the best way that he can. And then we go into two hours of hypnosis itself one hour roughly is going to be traveling back in time or in this lifetime depending I do not guide it we merely use visualization and let him go wherever he wants to go because he'll go to the most appropriate place and time that he needs for the information that he needs. And then we go into the higher self we access that we ask from a permission to ask questions and then we go down those little questions and get the information that he needs and also ask for healing in his body. And so if he's ready for that then he will receive if he's not we find out why he's not because everything is possible and then afterwards he does get recorded so you have this information to go back over because a lot of times people may not be entirely conscious to where they're they're they're kind of conscious while it's happening like they may say okay well this information's coming it's coming through my mouth but I'm kind of watching it or they may be completely off to the side and allowing the higher self to come through and then have to relisten to it to get the information consciously and then they get and that's when it really sets and deep so you have that personal recording forever.
You know I'm kind of like tempted to set up a meeting or a session with you and then bringing this camera that I've got something. Oh please oh please if we could that would be amazing because you'd be surprised a lot of times that gestures like well so my thing is what would be fun for me and probably for all listeners is because this camera can actually live stream to Facebook. That would be amazing. So I would love to set up a session with you and live stream the session to Facebook for all of our listeners.
Unfortunately the only amazing gesture you're going to see put out a tini's in the middle fingers. I don't know who will see. I might moonwalk. That's a possibility.
So now you mentioned that sometimes there may be something in the way of them kind of going through this. What kind of things might be in the way and how would you actually address that to get it out of the way. A lot of times they are scared because they might hear information that they don't want to hear. They're not ready to make changes because when you hear information it's pretty much like well I might have to make a change in my life but I'm not ready for.
Changes are scary. And it's like okay but this changes everything is for the highest good of the person that's coming and that's the power is that it's not it will never you will never guide yourself to do something that's not good for you and to hear for like diet changes or lifestyle changes about slowing down. Some people work too hard and they don't seem to be able to slow themselves down so illnesses come to slow them down and they'll do it. Their higher self will put you down if you're not willing to listen because we always get promptings all the time and we hear we think it's just our own mind or we hear it you have what we can't slow down right now.
I got bills to pay. I got to listen to that but they they need to listen to the information that we're always intuitively getting because of the human being we are all geared and designed to access our soul that a lot of times we have too much monkey mind shuttered happening that we're not listening to our to our wisdom that's coming through. And so this allows for two hours of your day of your time in your life that's like changing to say we're going to take that monkey mind put it to the side and let it sh so you can get your wisdom and then it makes sense. And so with this there's the blocks can be I thought it was me and I thought it was you who did it to me oh my god it's me and can I handle that?
And so a lot of times they go oh it can't be done nothing can be done the doctors told me that this is I will have this forever well nothing's forever because change is constant and that's the thing that's that's always constant is changed and so it can we get the mind out of the way into the understanding that can come through and some people don't believe in past lights and that's okay because to be your story either way it's a story and it's going to hold in contained information for you regardless. What's interesting to say that because I think in a lot of ways we're oftentimes our almost enemy and it sounds like you know this is a prime example that sometimes we're not willing to face our truths that are holding us back. Or you hear quite often the same thing like you said with the doctors saying you know this will never happen but you hear stories all the time like where doctors like say you'll never walk again and they do like it's it's all I think it's all a matter of the mind more or less like you just have to be willing to accept the fact that you know things can change regardless of what you've been told by someone else. Exactly you know once you put the word can't everything stops it doesn't even the brain doesn't even want to problem solve at that point.
You say the word can and all this and the brain goes oh what can we do well how can we do this and it starts to problem solve itself through and it's the belief system is the one of the most powerful things if not the most powerful things we have because our belief systems create either a block or an opening and so when we're able to take and work with at least any information about is this belief system serving me or is it hindering me is it keeping me limited or is it unlimited and so we're able to go into places that the psyche usually doesn't go because it doesn't even sometimes know how to go there because it hasn't been taught and so if you find a curiosity within yourself if you find something saying you know what there could be more I know there's more I invite you to come and see me because we can find out what the more is and you're the one in charge you're the driver's seat you're always in control I'm merely the guide and we can put you into a part of yourself that is really phenomenal and very much like changing. So it's kind of interesting to say that because I think that's true I think we kind of self-create our own realities you know as a or pessimistic people tend to be miserable and absolutely and a optimistic people tend to be happy because that's how they view the reality I think that goes a lot deeper than just surface attitudes. I had a really important question I was thinking to that I just totally forgot. I was going somewhere with that because you're blocking yourself right now.
We need to go to the background for the session on the other person. So now this is healing and so is it just emotional healing or is it actually kind of physical emotional mental spiritual. So what are some of the more miraculous physical healings that you've seen? I can share with you my own personal story what I've experienced so there because I've had an evolution of what I wanted to do and how I want to present to the world on how to get them to shine their light so like I said I started off with bodywork and I realized that you know I just can't do as much but I still it's very important work because if it's gotten to the body it needs to be removed so like I said we have to energetically remove stuff and sometimes even spirits and ancestral spirits can come in and wreak havoc in the body trying to get a healing for them and so they'll attach and say hey until we clear this we're sticking around and we're putting in there's energy in the body so I didn't want to work as much in that field because I was drawing and just expanding and so I was having a lot of deltoid issues really holding tight.
Well when I had my session done the first time they came in and they used like laser light it was really amazing they came in and went at the connective tissue and took it and separated the connective tissue my shoulders were instantly lighter soft and healthy and it was the most incredible feeling just oh my god thank you for the relief and they went in and they fixed my back there was some weak spots they took and they put light in there but they also helped with the cells to start regrowing the healthy cells and to to fill in those weaker spots of the bone so they could take in the they do miraculous healing I've seen people have their back sealed they've had their legs worked with vision fixed one of the gals was so funny she came out and she didn't have the sunglasses anymore. Sign me up I'm not wearing these things. Yeah a lot of times people have vision problems because they're not willing to see something in life at some point in their life they weren't willing to see something and so they created a blurred vision for it and then they just kept with it because they didn't know any better it's subconsciously happening so we bring awareness to that and all of a sudden now their higher self your mind's out of the way from walking so it can come in and do the work because we're energy they send energy we are energy and things can be done so it's been pretty amazing. So let me ask you this and it's kind of one of the questions I don't like to ask but it's also I think kind of it's important for listeners now you mentioned that this can sometimes take up like eight hours like essentially full work day.
Yeah how much would a session cost generally? You know there's a variety of different practitioners that charge differently we were told to go and do what we want to do because there's no surprise so I went to spirit and I said okay spirit I'm out now I'm not even going to go there you tell me what I need to be charging and I got 222 it's a divine number it means change. Oh that's very reasonable for long time. Very reasonable for life changing experience the investment is nothing and then you get to walk away feeling comfortable both of us are comfortable at this point.
You know I put in my time I'm sit with you and I find it the most rewarding experience of my life because I get a witness somebody seeing it for themselves they're hearing it from their own mouth and it's the most incredible thing that I come up to to this day. Fantastic. Very exciting. Well I appreciate you coming down with us and doing an interview.
Thank you. Now are you going to be at both the Pernumlexville and the Memphis question? I am yes. Fantastic.
Well we will look for you there and our listeners should look for you there. We should probably ask one more question. Okay ask away. So if someone wanted to set up a session.
Thank you. I was ready for that. When I knew it was kind of if not I was about to say it. I said how would we get to hurt you?
You can get a hold of me the best way I think it's going to my website cathyleft.com. They'll give you some information there it has my phone number texting for the best but I also take phone calls I'm located in Salt Lake City. And that's Cathyleft CATHY. L-A-F-I-T-T-E dot com.
Yes thank you. So please come in and get your live change people. It's amazing. You'll not regret it.
Well hey we appreciate coming on the show. Thank you for having me. Thanks. Yeah that's very profound Gary.
Yeah that's a good thing. I believe this is our final interview for all of this so I just got one thing left to say. Peace out butterflies. Well I'm going to leave that in but I figured we'd do an actual closer and since it's a professional I'm not even going to edit this last part out where we're just being s and so.
Peace out butterflies. It's done. No I said peace out butterflies. I said that's mine.
Nope. This is going to be really weird podcast for our listeners because everybody we interview we can introduce ourselves. So for our listeners yeah it's Castle and a beaker. Well we're introducing ourselves to you.
Yeah we're introducing ourselves to you but in essence it's going to be two or three interviews and so on. So basically per episode so we're going to be introducing the show like it's brand new like three four times in the episode because this is the world's most professional podcast. Yes. We get paid all of three cents an hour to do it.
Yeah for all four of our listeners. Oh wow. Just kidding we've got a lot of listeners actually. So how are you doing this afternoon Adela?
I'm good. I should say my name Adela. Adela oh I'm sorry. Oh yeah you're right man you're bad with names.
Adela Livin. No no no no. It's okay it's spelled the way you're saying it the way it looks so it's appropriate that's totally fine. You know and we're hearing you talk and like if there's a Utah rule there's like 15 ways to spell any given name.
Like you could spell Brian with like an X. That is dead. And without an actual B because we're in Utah. Is that a Utah thing?
I didn't know that. Yeah there's a video on YouTube. If you look at it it's kind of hilarious. Names in Utah or something like that.
It's oh my god people are retarded here. Anyway so now we are told that you are and for gimmicks I know different titles work kind of different ways but your medium or a psychic medium or what what terminology do you like? I like intuitive and medium because there are two separate types of readings that I do and psychic medium is kind of thrown around recently in the past years that I don't you know it's not my thing but I noticed it's like every day there's someone who's going I'm a medium right exactly. I've been doing this for 13 years and when I started I started with you know always been the same intuitive and medium and I never used to write other words.
Yeah say we actually had a live lead about this very topic at lunch today. Oh cool I like those debates. So tell us exactly what it is you do as an intuitive game. Okay um as an intuitive what I believe in is there's no pre-ordained destiny.
I don't use tools. I don't use cards or any type of you know modules or any of that stuff. I believe that every decision you make shifts your future kind of like a quantum physics thing. There's a bunch of different paths that are possible and what I do is I can see the path that the person's on and I can't get like timelines and dates and stuff but to me what's more important is trying to guide the person to what is you know the ultimate best for them the path that I can see is going to have you know the outcome of not just tangible and like material and things that we need in this place that's important because I'm also a very practical reader not just you know I believe in the spiritual possible even life you know here too and so I but also you know what someone calling is and what is going to fulfill them the most and so even though I may say this is what I see this path is going and this is where I see it going.
I also see the the lesson that's kind of running through your life that like in other words you can't just say oh my love life has nothing to do with my work life because usually there's a lesson on a spiritual spiritually speaking that's running through both of those things so but if someone says to me I'm thinking of doing this I will look at that and tell you the outcome of that path and where I see going and try to help people avoid you know the pitfalls so like say turn right instead of left because this may be a better way to go but ultimately in the end it's free well in your choice. So what you're saying is I need to get you on my speed dial so I can make bad decisions. Yeah then you leave me alone. So like if Gary were to tell you he was thinking about becoming a woman what advice would you have for him?
That's like a that's a whole nother topic. That's all kind of worms she doesn't want to get into but yeah I'm not I'm a little bit not traditional in the world that I'm in in the way I see and believe things to be I believe. And that's kind of the case with our lead medium on our paranormal destination. Tim she's a little bit outside the norm of what you'd expect from right.
I just I think that my favorite description of her own people are like you're so normal. When they see her doing what she's doing because it doesn't make a big deal about her. She's not trying to be an entertainer with it. So let me ask you how'd you kind of come into this I mean what did you just kind of wake up one day and you know you're kind of crunching and go oh hey I can see that people or what not.
Oh god no how did this all come about? Yeah no no no no. I trust people more that run from it which I did. I saw stuff from the time I was very little but I grew up in a very religious I was actually raised Adventist which is somewhere to Mormon except for that you know we had a very strict kind of religious belief system and so I didn't really have people to explain or nobody believed me when I said there's you know people in my room and things that I saw so I kind of learned to be quiet about it and I ran from it for a long time but my mother died when I was 10 days old and my aunt uncle raised me and my aunt got sick with leukemia and I had a dream that she was going to die like pretty much monthly my aunt and you know when I was little I thought it was logical like maybe I just had a fear of it because my grandmother died you know but I had these dreams pretty prominently like every month and when she got diagnosed with leukemia I knew this was what I saw and when she was sick I started opening up I started seeing things differently I started seeing her as a spirit and really her dying and her death kind of made me start looking at this just this isn't just like something that just happens to everyone and when she died I you know got her visitations and things started happening but then I turned it off and when I started reading people when the first time I tried it and it was really accurate and I didn't really know what I was doing I was only like 20 you know one or 22 and I got scared of it and turned it off and ran from it I ran from it a lot of times until I finally realized my life wasn't lining up and I knew it was because I was denying a part of myself so I decided to dedicate myself to honing it because I know what that pain's like on the medium front that we're talking about now the medium part and I wanted it to make sure it was you know coming from a pure place I learned everything from the other side I didn't take classes or no one taught me I decided to dedicate my life to honing it so now when you do readings do you do like remote readings or do people need to be there with you or how does that work exactly I can do any of them so I've I've I mostly now just on the phone but I also do in person most of the time most of the years I've been doing it in person it's just past year it's been more on the phone I couldn't do it remotely and when I do a medium reading the way I do it is you don't need to tell me a name or any information just tell me the relationship to you and you don't have to tell me ahead of time the time of the reading you could have in your mind anybody you are thinking of you can change it as many times you want just tell me like you know I the last minute you decided you know your grandmother or whatever on your mom's side and the reason why is because I've learned to pull that person in because all spirits want to talk they all are anxious to talk and so I like to make sure I'm getting spending the time with that one that you want and then I'll go to the next one sometimes in a reading I could you know as many as people want me to pull in in the time that we have and I like to get details that are more like you know detailed not just they miss your love you but events and timelines and certain conversations that were had like before they died like things that are going to confirm to you that it's them and not me okay now would you be willing to do a quick reading first here on the show oh okay if you don't want to so I usually I usually pick on Tim because I don't like to put myself out there for the public ridicule and I have no problem doing Tim all I'd like that's what I'm here for I'm the comic relief but I'm actually gonna switch us up I'm gonna have you do it on me and see what we get are you okay with that okay sure you're being selfish now I know that's why you do you and then I don't feel awkward as well I'm full of my life on air which type of reading did you want those are two different types I don't really what are the options the intuitive readings about you and in your life and the one I told you at the beginning and the medium reading stock in the let's do an intuitive reading okay all right so first I like to kind of jump into your skin and see how you tick that's how I read people like kind of see the world through your eyes so to speak and it helps me understand it's not too old to back up I think I was like what have I done I was more worried for her to be honest all right okay so my first I could kind of go on vibration and my first feeling is like I mean obviously like usually we had a little more conversation than I normally do at the beginning of a reading so I always like to be fair like you said a few tiny things but my feeling on your energy is like you're very I mean obviously you're doing this and people would say you're open but I didn't really I see like you look at the world very almost like a almost like a Rubik's Cube like you're analyzing everything and turning everything constantly so I don't feel like you're kind of person that if someone introduces you to someone you know like as a friend or to get into business with I feel like you're not gonna just do it because this person's excited about it like it's not like the way you don't jump first you know some people just kind of only follow their gut only follow their intuition before they start I feel like you're much more of a it's not like you're literally making columns you know and checking lists but I feel like you rather pick it apart on your own terms intellectually so I feel like your battle is probably even though you might believe in you know gut and all that kind of stuff is kind of balancing those two parts of yourself to be okay with the logical side and the practical side and the grounded side but allowing yourself to still have adventure and you know see what's out there so it's almost like curiosity and knowledge is like more of your push and then later the creative part comes through that so some people might just be creative you know first and I feel like um kind of going down that path like if you had taken and so I kind of see things like maybe a little different like it doesn't necessarily obviously you have to be what you're doing now but I feel like you're extremely good at problem solving with people like kind of being that person in between to kind of create problem solving or like even like in a I don't know you could have went down a path of like business or something but I mean I feel like put if I were like if this was a long we were like going through the whole thing I'd probably push you more to being um I don't know I just saw you like moving not being able to be in one place all the time like being a person that does want to solve problems and bring people together but I saw it more like always traveling and doing that as being the thing that would fulfill you the most being stuck in one area being like stuck in an office being stuck with the same routine you know whenever I feel like bringing you and happiness yeah it's interesting to say that you're completely wrong by being exactly right about everything you just said you pretty much described him to it either yeah in fact I'm gonna say and I think I've talked about my job more on this particular session of podcasts than I think I ever had before but not to her but not to her but I mean but just in general but yeah but my day job is I'm in law enforcement so yeah I'm in a car traveling all day usually and I'm actually currently sent detectives and that's all I do is problem solve to help people so that's interesting I'm just kind of like going down your path that I don't feel like this is where you'll stay I feel like you'll eventually do something more world problem solving like I saw you traveling outside the country outside this outside your state I feel like this is what this is you're doing this because it's how you're built and it makes sense but it's gonna lead you if you follow this path into something a little you know broader which is interesting because I can actually retire in a year and I haven't said what I'm gonna do when that time comes around so yeah you're gonna take my vacation we're gonna travel the world together mean your whole man's hand in hand yeah we're gonna skip down the streetless mountain I know what Tim's gonna say because he's wanting me to transition into woman now he wants to hold hands with me skipping around the world I might have to watch myself traveling around Tim from here on out it's called comedy I know try it well so now are you coming to both the paranormal Expo and the metaphysical Expo well I'm actually doing the paranormal because what I found is that I'm not doing both because I'm in LA and you know coming back twice would be a thing so I picked I picked the paranormal because people you know they're they're kind of drawn to that sort of thing you know like you know that they're talking to people if passed on and that environment is very intriguing to people and I like you know those are my people as well you know that that world and so I'm doing the paranormal line this time okay fantastic so now somebody wanted to get in touch with you to do say a reading what how would they get in touch with you to have this done yeah pretty easy a day low line adla la la la la.com and I have the same name for all social media on Facebook Twitter and Instagram so it's adla la la la.com's my website and I'm on YouTube as well with everything I've done and all the information about me and my history and all that stuff fantastic we appreciate being on the show and like Tim said it's kind of funny as you're giving that reading just watching Tim or her just looking at me with this big shitty grim space just nodding because Tim knows me really well and yeah you pretty much nailed that and so I think anybody who's listening to this who wanted a reading would be pleased to get one because you're obviously spot on when it came to to I don't know we could really challenge her and have her read me though yeah don't do that you'll burn you a little more difficult don't do that you'll burn your cornea.
I've had believe me all right thank you so much thank you I appreciate having you on thank you all right bye bye so now it's closer time since we recorded this and edited this together weird we're doing closers now you can probably edit that out that didn't work yeah yeah it didn't work at all but probably leave it in anyway thank you guys for listening again Utah paranormal expo will be Saturday October 7th and the metaphysical expo will be Saturday September 16th and those will be at the South time Expo Center and we will see you there come say hi to us we'll have a booth take us a cheap buy them come visit the guests there's links on the Facebook page there are other than that everybody thank you for listening we'll be back shortly with another episode and peace out butterflies or peace in what the hell's wrong with you you're listening to the Wisps was at your investigative studies for paranormal science their grown ass adults that like to sit in the dark and talk to each other but they all love their moms so that should account for something