Part 2 of our interview with the first person to visit every country in the world without flying. The humanity of volunteers helped keep me going.

Torbjørn ‘Thor’ C. Pedersen not only travelled to every country in the world without flying. He also visited nearly every National Red Cross and Red Crescent Society in the world and wrote stories for his travel blog about their response to a staggering variety of humanitarian challenges. “My motivation to continue and not give up came from different sources at different times,” he told us. “Sometimes it would be seeing [Red Cross and Red Cresent] volunteers, and how much effort they would put into solving various situations around the world. And knowing that they were doing it without taking payment for it, because they believed in a cause, was incredibly inspiring.”  [Part 2 of a two-part interview; see Episode 6, part 1 of Season 2 to hear the first part of this interview].