Part two: Crissie McMullan & Jason Wiener are AI Realists

This week ANA brings you part two of Justin’s conversation with Crissie McMullan and Jason Wiener, who together launched AI Realists, a nonprofit focused on helping communities shape AI policies.Picking up where they left off last week, the trio talk about citizen assemblies, public opinion surveys, data centers and a central mission of AI Realists: combating our big tech fatalism. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.anewanglepodcast.com/subscribe