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EPISODE · Sep 4, 2025 · 33 MIN

Partners, Not Just Payouts: What Really Makes Partnerships Work

from The Affiliate Marketing Podcast · host Lee-Ann Johnstone - Founder of Affiverse

This week, Lee-Ann Johnstone sits down with Paul Puolakka, CMO of Mr. Gamble, who brings a rare dual perspective to affiliate marketing having worked extensively on both the operator and affiliate sides. Fresh from burnout in telecoms to becoming one of iGaming's most respected voices, Paul shares unfiltered insights on what separates thriving partnerships from those that crash and burn. This isn't your typical "build trust and communicate" advice—Paul digs into the tactical realities of partnership management, from handling payment delays to spotting red flags before they destroy relationships. Whether you're an affiliate manager struggling to retain top partners or an affiliate wondering why your best partnerships keep falling apart, this episode delivers the hard-won wisdom you need to build partnerships that actually last.Talking points include:Why ownership and transparency beat over-promising every time—and how to implement this practically.The critical metrics affiliates track that operators often ignore (and why this knowledge gap kills partnerships).Why face-to-face meetings remain irreplaceable in an increasingly digital industry.Listen to find out more about:How to spot the early warning signs that a promising partnership is about to collapse.Why affiliate managers need to understand their entire conversion funnel, not just their own department.The three key factors that make affiliates choose to stick with operators long-term.Key segments of this podcast and where you can tune in to go direct: [05:04] The trust-breakers: What instantly destroys affiliate partnerships and why shaving commissions is relationship suicide.[18:04] The click paradox: Why operators obsess over FTDs but ignore what happens after affiliates deliver quality traffic.[24:06] The founder factor: How small operators with hands-on leadership often outperform larger corporate machines.Our thanks go to Mate Affiliates as this season's sponsor. Would you like to talk about sponsoring our podcast, or gaining a brand mention? Take a look here.Send me a text with your questions

This week, Lee-Ann Johnstone sits down with Paul Puolakka, CMO of Mr. Gamble, who brings a rare dual perspective to affiliate marketing having worked extensively on both the operator and affiliate sides. Fresh from burnout in telecoms to becoming one of iGaming's most respected voices, Paul shares unfiltered insights on what separates thriving partnerships from those that crash and burn. This isn't your typical "build trust and communicate" advice—Paul digs into the tactical realities o...

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