Partnerships | Collaboration counts: Data, myths and the next decade of Australian innovation

In this episode, we are joined by Paul Harris, Executive Director of the Innovative Research Universities (IRU), to unpack what the evidence really says about university–industry collaboration in Australia.From reframing myths with data, to strengthening long-term structures like the Industry PhD programme, to the case for national coordination, mission-based compacts and a better balance between fundamental research and commercialisation, this conversation offers practical, system-level insights.