EPISODE · Mar 10, 2019
Pasma
from Lights Like Us · host Ryan Miller, Heidi Miller
Speaking of systems… how about the medical system? The effervescent Dr. Jonathan Pasma (a.k.a. Ferris Pier and creator of the Lights Like Us song we get to use on the podcast) talks with Ryan and Heidi about old medicine vs new medicine, surgery, pain, and more!
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