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Welcome to part of my take presented by draft Kings who put up all season with the newest most fun way to play fantasy sports picks six from draft Kings download the draft Kings picks out now use code take that's code take for new customers to play five dollars and if fifty dollars and picks six credits only on draft Kings pick six the crown is yours today is Wednesday November 20th and the Dallas Cowboys are dead or than dead. It was already dead but now it's really really dead and they're pathetic and they shouldn't be on TV but oh wait we still have them on Monday night football they can't flex because there's a Simpsons broadcast and also because it's the Cowboys I think that's a convenient excuse because I don't think that they would ever flex the Cowboys because what you could get with any Dallas game is exactly what you got last night which is chaos the building falling apart in Dallas before the game and it's still got 17 million viewers. You know I mean that's my name football too. Yes but also Primetime games my name football Sunday football I'm good with not having to watch the Cowboys anymore they're really bad listen they're not even fun bad I am too but guess what people in general are going to watch the Dallas Cowboys if they're on Primetime that's the thing about them and sucks but the Simpsons broadcast that'll be fun to see the team just completely implode as I hope that Mike McCarthy is either chief Wiggum that'd be the perfect fit as chief Wiggum or maybe just smithers on the sidelines and Mr.
Burns needs to be Jerry Jones I mean I'm gonna have to watch that broadcast because it's gonna suck having to watch the Cowboys again it's just not it's not fun Cooper Rush not fun why don't they start Trey Lance he's probably not good but it's he's not Cooper Rush right but he's probably not good but why not at this point I think I think you got to be at least like there's a level of competency that maybe he hasn't achieved I guess but I mean you traded a draft pick for him you know what was it like a seven-thranger no I think it's harder than that was it yeah I mean I don't think that's that uncommon of a take to say that they should just try to start Trey Lance yeah I'm sure they will at some point it's a fourth rounder and I'm sure they will at some point I just I would assume he's there's got to be a reason he's not playing you know what the saddest like I think they will now maybe because he's they're so bad it's over but I think they this was the last moment where they're like hey maybe we'll win a game and change around it's just it's not there you know what the saddest part to me is watching Cooper Rush play quarterback for this team when he does the here we go the deck does the deck he needs to come up with his own cadence yeah don't just try to do like a cover if that press got already annoying here we go it's very very bad yeah the Cowboys are very very bad Jerry's very very bad he's I feel like the fans have fully turned on him he's like in late stage like dementia like weird like he's you know he's given these press conferences afters like I've been here for bad teams and we you know bad years happens like yeah we get it but this team sucks and you had no contingent and they're getting it's getting hidden by the fact that Dak Prescott got hurt they suck before that well before yeah their defense stinks this isn't just a Dak Prescott got hurt our year went to shit it was bad before yes already bad you're running back your play the running back position from week one was awful yeah they just yeah the bad team and the Texans get a little right get a little mojo going right which is never trailing that game just whooping up on them that's got to feel good that first place would count it yeah I know it was such a good first place it also was just classic for Larry Tunsel they probably practice that play all week and then he was like he just didn't do it right yeah it's king of penalties but yeah the Texans like I don't really know where I think the Texans are still in that second tier in the AFC where they could maybe win a playoff game I just don't know I feel like they're just don't have enough against a Bills Raven Steelers Chiefs so larger charges like what you described as the Chargers second tier no I was you didn't let me finish thanks for waking up Hank you didn't let me finish I was gonna say Chargers the Hank Mike clock at night Hank I was gonna say you might put a juicy little future on the Chargers that'd be a sharp at me I'm gonna start that you're gonna be so mad at the Chargers win a playoff game no yeah you will yeah you will you'll get a little bit upset no 0 fear okay so if you're the Cowboys one thing I didn't understand last night your seasons over right you're not gonna you're not gonna win anything you've long since given up on that why not just let Brandon Aubrey have that 64 yard field dude he like barely even kicked it looked like a practice it was not I understand the idea that okay they called a penalty which by the way no no never take points off the board never take points off the board yeah that's not a long time yeah coach you know you don't want to take three points never know what could happen yeah but you got your drive extended so you're trying to score touchdown yeah as a Bears fan did that piss you off that they called slap to the head which hasn't been called in decades no listen that includes already call here I go in center's face you send into league I'm sure we'll fix everything I don't like you Hank I'm stuck on the Chargers thing by the way you just named five AFC teams and you didn't even charge and you the way you just play back I want to play back though it was the perfect of the Chargers original they might want to play off on they're not beating the cheese like what was the original bet though I said that now I obviously believe in them fully but the original bet that we all put in together was I don't think the Chargers are gonna win the Super Bowl but they are at 45 to one insane odds because they're a playoff team and they could play they could basically beat anyone in a one game elimination and then I've been telling you like you're gonna cash out right now I know J. Bell's degree just you're disagreeing with yourself you're just being disagreeing with yourself that's true so it happens all the time you're taking out on me well I feel like arguing with the ghost right now you're going with a car going with the cats correct logic that was old big cat that was arguing arguing with his correct I'm arguing I'm taking out on you because I feel like I feel like the Chargers are basically the only thing you care about now no because you were trolling me before and like I think it's giving you life so actually you know we talked about it we did talk about it on the show it's I mean you catch on a future you're not gonna for it you're really against me you should thank me for giving you life but you have I mean you have this is an abusive relationship right here front front row tickets to gaslighting while he he reversed gaslit me no yeah let's keep going me reverse lighting gaslighting uses you saying things that you said previously sorry you know what I want to talk to Max and Max only sorry that I came up with a bet that all the boys could ride on and we can have fun and root for it together and then half of the boys cash now sorry sorry I was rooting for that I'm still in thank you Max I thought it was fun no no no no no my butt was gonna be the before the show we were all silent and Hank just whispers into the mic you charges pretty good yes he's trolling me yes that's no one was talking about just was like he's trolling me I think the charge you at least admit that PFT I know you're telling me oh yeah no shit yeah but I can't do it because I was strolling me sorry that I did something that we all could do together and then every like listen I know I got Max Max always out of my back everyone else just bailed on me listen I have not had a good gambling season and responsibly I cashed out of it Jerry got way mad at the new about the cash Jerry approached me one on one pulled me aside and had a sit down with me about why I would cash out on his dealers and I didn't have a good answer for him no I'm not mad I just like it was fun to do it as a crew it was fun to do it as a crew Travis on has been fun for us it was fun to do it as a crew and then I found out just we don't do it as a crew I like friendship but you you catch up Travis one or two no absolutely not absolutely because I can't they literally won't give it one if there was they would have I'd be lying if I said I didn't check out three times a day to see if they give me an option or an option to trap out to cash out on the more jazz two of us will do friend bets together okay all right all right can you catch out or no yeah if we if we talk about it we did say if he says hey remember how we talked about this I'm gonna cash out I'd be like yeah you guys catch out for a loss the whole point was to catch out for a win yes you did you 100% did there's no chance no chance no chance so couple of Texans the text I don't even care about this I mean I keep sucked I don't even pretend to go I just want to say that the Texans you said that they're in that second tier with the Chargers and the Chargers are the first two of the first here I think the Texans are exactly the same type of team that they were last year the difference is that CJ's routed a second season I think everybody expected them to be in that top tier of the AFC and because they're just a very good team we're like kind of silently disappointed in them well their offensive line is not great and they've obviously had some injuries it's good that he goes back because he's awesome I yeah I think yeah I do think that we just expected CJ to go into infinity like oh that was his rookie year he'll just be the best quarterback of all time he's we expected him to be better than Patrick Holmes he's just what he is which is a good quarterback yeah he's a very good quarterback he's not been down here he's had some not great games they haven't really blown anybody have they blown anybody out I just remember the Texans I mean like yeah being in a shitload of close games especially against teams that they should have blown out no they have not really blown anyone out no they had oh they blew out the Patriots 41 21 what did you just do you're right it was for a loss yeah yeah the whole point was to do it for a win I got even money max no investment no chance sure yeah I'm pretty sure I look it up I'm pretty sure it's the same exact odds though if I think if you and I will talk we'll have a strategy to two of us just boys I promise I'm not gashing out no but if we do it together we'll do it together we'll turn the key together it'll be a great experience I don't want to look through this sea of red I'm lost in the head I'm so here's what I'll guarantee it was the exact same cash out that they offer me right when I put the bed in so that's that's minus 10 that's minus minus minus 10 percent yeah got okay so other things clean up from Sunday I wanted to point out this stat from our friend Ben baby this one's crazy through the first 11 games on the four and seven Bengals Jobaro has 3,000 28 passing yards 27 touchdowns and five interceptions players to achieve 3,000 passing yards 27 touchdowns and five or fewer interceptions through the first 11 games here they are Tom Brady 2007 and 2015 is Dean for 16 and 13 and 3 Aaron Rodgers 2011 2020 is Dean for 15 and 113 and 3 Patrick Holmes 2014 and 2 Drew Brees 2018 13 and 3 this entire exercise is just to prove that Jobaro is having an insane season and the rest of his team has let him down yeah it sucks it sucks that's every single I mean the lowest amount of wins was 13 and 3 of that list I just said and he's in a list with Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers Patrick Holmes and Drew Brees and their four and seven we should start talking more about Jobaro being the MVP all right you're trolling me to know I mean if they go on a little run yeah we just got to live to get your old hey hey you've seen these stats from Jobaro and if you finish this personally listen my friend is crying here on the way first is being early it's all these takes that actually have value first and lead Chargers Travis Hunter Jobaro MVP who told you about all three of those a month and a half ago okay that's my crime that is my crime I mean he has MVP numbers what do you want to say he is having outstanding season sorry I know ball if they make the playoffs he would be in the conversation no probably not because he's like the 60 now and I also I mean that was yeah but if you made the playoffs I'm so impressive that I he should be I we discount the MVP conversation just becomes the team the quarterback of the team on the one seat that sucks but I think if it's where all one and they somehow went on a run it would be different I agree if he goes on like a meat like yeah no on the table and like finally again and he has like insane numbers he would definitely one I feel vindicated are you still in on that yeah what's the number you got there 15 it's 20 now okay so I might get in I might get in right out I might do a parlay you're done done saying my takes that actually end up being good to have values I think now makes a lot of sense I'll fuck you we guys are welcome for telling you about Travis Hunter oh okay I had had that conversation with Brandon Walker that day that's why I thank you for bringing it up because I was gonna bring it up on this very show and Brandon try to talk me out of Travis he's been a Travis Hunter hater I know for the whole year I don't okay so let's talk about what I got straight from you and Walker fuck you Hank okay all right hmm now I won't let that one of my you know what I'm gonna keep my takes to myself whatever whatever let's get a tweet him out I was paying your compliment I can't trust anything you say now I can't I feel like I'm Max right I'm being honest my opinion is great is great is on Steve Max he's never on he's never on okay thank you I appreciate that I love this everything he does on that yes I speak facts what if I please like point to me a fact that I said it's been false yeah we should build a little bridge that goes above Hank said on that wall behind there we'll troll troll trolls live here yeah don't feed the troll I do love the new partnership though that Max and the big ass bridge I just took Joe Barrow 21 by the way okay I know what we should talk about before we talk college football is that guy over there that's just not said a word for the whole show he's just watching the chaos loving the chaos thinking maybe maybe maybe they'll forget the fact that the Jets fired their GM in the middle of the season and this is now just I mean even for the Jets everything this happened it's just there's such a dumpster fire memes Joe Douglas gets fired is this the thing that will fix everything no because he was he was pretty much this was his final season he had six games left yeah so that the timing of it makes absolutely no sense I still don't understand it they want to jump on they fired their GM six weeks before the season's over what was he going to be doing in those six weeks well I think you want to fire fire someone so you can start your draft prep with someone who's actually gonna be there to draft them I guess yeah but they're scouting right now a bunch of reports came out that he pretty much wasn't the GM for the past nine months oh who was I was what he Johnson he just he went he took full control okay so that's awesome means I don't know if you had a chance to see this report just came out like five minutes before we started taping that Woody Johnson tried to bench Aaron Rogers after the Broncos game and that Joe Douglas talked him out of it who reported that when we look it up it was on the athletic I mean I believe you guys a bunch of reports coming out it's a day in her scene exactly flat oh that's a half ever seen he just owner what he Johnson suggested pinching Aaron Rogers in September per sources and fairly Douglas talked him out of it and all the other so after that game Woody Johnson summoned every coach to the office to explain to him what went wrong like defense coordinator head coach office coordinator whatever there's nothing hackatize he was in the room to a joke Douglas was there and they asked he asked him to explain themselves and then he said well what about pinching Aaron Rogers right now and said are you serious they asked him if he was serious and he was I kind of believe it yeah because everything that's coming out I mean this guy's just an asshole yeah that's um the Jets are just I mean is Aaron Rogers just the coach and GM right now no he he's gone to fully fully he's gonna go is he the Titans quarterback and Titans would be a good fit for him that would be fun because he could win the FC South maybe maybe probably not I think he might walk across the other locker room what giants he loves new York look if you look at which teams need a quarterback oh my god I didn't even think about that they improve their line they have some receivers their defense line is good he doesn't have to move he loves New York and then somebody else throughout the Panthers but he won't go to no way no that's beneath him yeah wait the Giants I could see and you know how this is gonna work means right yeah he'll be good he'll be very good for at least one year he's gonna go so if he goes to the Giants he'll be awesome for a year then he'll be over but he'll have one year just because he basically will just have a chip on his shoulder that's really what if you break down what happened with Aaron Rogers I know everyone goes with the Achilles and the Achilles obviously ended that season the biggest reason that Aaron Rogers didn't work in the Jets is because the Achilles took away his chip on his shoulder year yeah the guy is great when he has a chip on his shoulder he had it from Green Bay he got hurt couldn't play the chip on the shoulder goes away now he's gonna hear we don't have to prove anything next year is his chip on his shoulder year for the Jets he wanted chip on shoulder he should just take the facts it's true now if he goes to the Giants that would be it would be a troll move to and I know that he loves his next move might just be to piss off whoever his most recent enemy is in this case it would be the Jets I feel like that would piss the Jets off the most right yeah 100 yeah yeah so that could happen that could happen I was just looking at the list of teams and there's not there's not many suitors people are saying the Vikings but no you know what these gonna start when he's healthy yeah it's like whichever team doesn't get Sam Donald yeah yeah and then people are saying just get the end of Jones but what it's why I don't know what I was getting thrown around yesterday that's just that's just people try to get to you yeah they're making a lot of people doing the Mike McCarthy the Bears you can't let that get you it's just it's a bad situation yeah I want to ask earlier in the office a there's a huddle need to say it's troll is it's I'm starting to see through Max's eyes and it just feels good okay go ahead yes I saw it's my favorite part of it I love I love what you add to everything go ahead this is in the troll okay this is a report no yeah I know it please report I can't I literally can't get a report giving a report I want to hear I like this is an eyewitness report from you from me okay my eyes witness this and heard okay memes are sitting around the table with the like pug Liam his guys or other people is crew what are you guys huddling everyone standing around me was sitting down showing all the power and I was like what are you guys doing and then they said they're fixing the Jets yeah me blood on the side what is the plan okay so go ahead is that a troll no that's not a troll we came up with a bunch of different scenarios Conner Lee's arise was at like one of the crazier scenarios okay one of the crazier scenarios yeah we went through as many scenarios as you could just just feels as one of the options I would say no you know that will not fix you as a bridge quarter no that will not fix you the best scenario is Mike for able to coach Kim cefancy gets fired from the Browns he becomes a OC okay you bring in James as the bridge okay and then Super Bowl wait but who's the new port has to be something at the other side of the British James but he's the bridge no but the bridge is also oh it's just a process you went Super Bowl and your okay got it's not it's a rebuilding your but it's not at same time because the roster still good we just don't have quarterback there's another name that you told me that you want oh yeah I think we asked you about that like a week ago and you puked memes but that's just as a bridge and none of this is gonna happen because we're just gonna draft someone who's gonna suck memes you know that's the difference between like American sports fans and European sports fans if they had a Jets doing this to them they would write yeah there would be like stones throwing at cars they would not they don't put up with shit over there no you're right we just keep on tickets yeah bind jerseys we have made playoffs in 14 years yeah my entire 20s without seeing the Jets in playoff it's just it's tough yeah and nothing's gonna change because the owner is still the same yep we can say hey no that sucks I don't think about the 20s that's what we're good 20s like a there's a decade to win it's your 20s that's all right 30s are fun to 30s are fun to are you 30 I'm turning when March so you got to play off game this year wait your whole point whole 20s I they don't have been in the playoffs at the sophomore night school stop stop it hang wow stop it I hope I hope I hope memes that you get to see the platform that truly I don't think I don't think it could ever happen yeah well yeah you gotta figure out coach to your number one's for Abe's yeah it means I've been to the playoffs but yeah I mean we're not we've talked about it it's the same dysfunction happens in both places they're a little bit different because the Jets do a the Jets dysfunction is more all in and then they fall in their face the Bears dysfunction is more hey let's hope we catch lightning in a bottle every now and then and then fuck it up but you guys actually take a shot yeah well that's the one thing about this year we did yeah you do appreciate the effort of trying to go all right right but it was just the biggest disaster of all done yeah man we're gonna say that's overrated yeah yeah you just well hang on to say that no because losing sucks yeah getting to the playoffs getting your hopes up and then losing is so much yeah but going on run is so much fun yeah getting to play else is fun you got it yeah yeah yeah it's a loser talk yes 100% I think guilty is charged think playoffs are overrated there you go that's okay to be mediocre oh bad I'm I feel great all right speaking of playoffs we talk some college football should we talk some college football we have the rankings out the rankings let me I just had him in front of me and then I just lost them here they are it is right now the playoff bracket would be one seed Oregon two seed Texas three seed Miami four seed Boise state because BYU just lost then it would be home game for Ohio state against BYU home game for Notre Dame against Alabama that would be awesome home game for Penn State against Georgia and home game for Indiana verse Ole Miss so we're two weeks three weeks really because we have the conference championships away from the first 12 team playoff bracket I like how everyone's getting upset what are your initial thoughts pft my initial thoughts are it's fun to be mad about a hypothetical list that will ultimately look much different so yeah get your anger at somehow it's probably healthy to get some of this anger that's pent up out there is some anger that I guess could be pointed towards who would you say would be like the most undeserving higher seat a lot of people are looking at Ohio State Indiana because they're about to play this weekend yeah Indiana fans still have a right to be upset get here's what I'll say about Indiana get all of your hatred out right now enjoy attacking the media for underwriting you because you don't know what's gonna happen there's a good chance you get your ass kicked by Ohio State this weekend so take this time savor every moment of hate that you get to have at the committee for not treating you properly with enough respect because well I think you're ranked fine right now if you look at it but I mean they they don't have a loss you play we can't but this is also remember this is the rankings for the the automatic qualifiers are one through four yeah so they're ranked fine like you see I'm saying like Boise is not Boise is not ranked higher than Indiana right now they just are the automatic qualifier no I know that so the Indians ranked fifth yeah where else would you rank them I'm gonna Penn State would be the only gripe you to have but like yeah I would I think Indiana is ranked fine right now the problem in the end is that Greg Sankey made a call to all of media on Monday and had everyone in the media bash them when they have their big game coming up against Ohio State and that makes no sense to me Indiana has not played anyone Indiana is an awesome story Indiana is an underdog story I'm rooting for Indiana let them at least go play Ohio State before we say Indiana sucks like that was my problem they have the game to play they're gonna play the game on Saturday let Indiana go play them so if they get killed I have no problem if people want to say the Indiana with one lost shouldn't be in the playoff like I really won't if they get killed because they have not played anyone but I want to see them play and compete and I think they're gonna hold them I think they're gonna do a good job hold staying in this game and maybe winning this game yeah so Indiana this weekend I want them to win I'm rooting for Indiana because I'm a fan of chaos versus when it comes to all this college football talk I'm rooting for the double doomsday scenario where the big 12 doesn't even get anybody in that would that is a possibility it's unlikely it's very it's pretty unlikely it could happen I mean at the start of the season we were saying that there's no chance that a group of five gets a buy in the playoff yeah but that's become a possibility yes now we're realizing that the double doomsday is also a possibility I think if you're an SEC team if you're if you end up with two losses and you're an SEC team you really don't have a right to complain about anything unless you're Georgia pot potential Georgia got like scheduled potentially Georgia now I understand that now I think Georgia might they might be the best team in the country right and they played they did play Clemson non-conference they had to play all their tough games on the road I Georgia's the only one but like the big thing is my big takeaway from this entire week is everyone again I think there was a coordinated hit against Indiana which makes no sense to me because this is the last time they can say strength the schedule their strength the schedule is about to get a lot better because they're gonna play Ohio State this week in Columbus let them play on the field before we say they shouldn't be in if they get smoked on Saturday then I'm fine they shouldn't be in but let them actually play and like when since when did we not like these underdog stories actually I kind of know the answer that it's pretty much the minute the underdog takes the blue bloods away which is like what happens in all sports like we root for the underdog and then if the blue blood blood gets squeezed out we're like no we don't want this underdog anymore Texas and Penn State have been hiding behind their resumes for the entire time and no one's saying anything about that so he's hiding behind just like a multi-decade resume yeah at this point because if Texas loses if they should be out then they should be out right it's a hundred percent a two-loss Texas team they have no big way they don't have their best one is what Michigan no Vanderbilt Vanderbilt yeah yeah and Penn State is the same way I know Max you don't like hearing that but Penn State like 100 percent they're hiding in place like the the ire has been Indiana when it's like how about Texas and Penn State I have been saying we've been talking about this all day in the office I need Ohio State to beat the shit out of Indiana because then that problems arise for Penn State I think right if Indiana wins this game or yeah because there could be Texas Penn State will not lose a game probably for I think that's not easy yeah that's not easy and then they play I think finished with Maryland Texas could easily lose Texas A&M it is a mess everywhere I just didn't like the coordinated hit on Indiana and I do have something very funny to share with you guys this made me laugh so Indiana Twitter shout out there they've been fighting really hard and they've been going after people and I respect it this guy fifth ranked Indiana edits I'm just gonna assume he's a stoolie maybe not but anyway he said he posted a group chat with his friends that said we need to get Dan docket involved in this SEC fight let's bring out the big guns gotta find a way to show the SEC is woke and then Chris de Plante wrote he quote treated Rassilla michay talking he said hey docket the west coast California liberals are trying to steal another election handing out a participation trophy to a two-loss SEC team his utter woke nonsense do something and then I just like five minutes I asked quote treated the same tweet and said dudes that were this about Rassilla michay dudes that were never in a locker room other than to take a peek get an autograph or take a picture it's just like mission accomplished got it played college his quarterback right yeah but it's so funny they weaponized it and I do it Rassilla lives in locker rooms they're usually at an equinox but he's always in lock yeah I just loved it shout out Indiana fans fighting the good fight on Twitter I also love Joe Galloway this is like this is brain rot so college football has their brain rot and it's reached its peak with Joe Galloway who says that Indiana should consider benching their quarterback Curtis Roar against Ohio State to avoid a repeat of what happened last year with FSU yep they're going back getting into the season that's it's broken everybody's brain and what I love about the college football playoff is you have you expand the argument so there's in theory an argument that you could have every year about the 14 playoff and now you've just got so many other schools making a case that they deserve to be in it yeah yeah yeah in my resume this resume but at the end of the day you can tell those teams that are bitching if they get left out like you should have won more games yeah sure one more games and that's about as simple as it gets and you can do it with almost like listen I think Tennessee's a very good team obviously been go for them well for them in Georgia you tell you lost Arkansas Arkansas Arkansas is not good yeah you know I get it you play a tough schedule Alabama like you lost the Vanderbilt had a nice run there but they're not gonna finish it like there's if you have two losses and one of them isn't the best loss like that's why Jordan says too bad bad losses yeah yeah well wait they lost yeah I was used to bad loss now I mean it was that was a crazy game that was a pure Saturday night bad rules game Kentucky's a bad loss Kentucky's a bad loss so yeah it's just like you and I get it Indiana the one thing I like about like people complain about the unbalanced schedule now I kind of like it just because a team like Indiana can have a season like this where the schedule bounces their way and still they have to prove it they have to prove it in Columbus on Saturday so we're just saying Joey Galloway further on that no I was done with Joey Galloway I just think it's funny that he's reached that point where he's like thinking through these scenarios to the point where he's got is that meme of the guy that's his brain is so big he's playing chess against his own brain yeah that's what Joey Joey Galloway's I was gonna talk about Georgia again real quick oh yeah I think Georgia is the best team in the country when it was Texas and Georgia playing I said that Texas was wrong about that but the more I've watched Georgia the more I've kind of since there's no real dominant team in the SEC this year I think Georgia at their best beats any team at their best I think Georgia at their worst also beats any team at their worst like the floor for Georgia is higher than any other team's floor and I think that Georgia like medium Georgia probably beats everybody at the medium except for maybe Alabama I was just like counterpoint Alabama they literally can't beat Alabama yeah Alabama that was a weird game because you had but I'm saying like you had Alabama at their best and Georgia at their worst in the first half then it flip flopped at the in the second half but I can't beat Alabama I think the way that that Georgia has been playing recently I think they are the best team in the country yeah but they're not a perfect team like Oregon's pretty damn good too and I go out of state's pretty damn good this is why I like 12 team playoff I think there's a lot of good Ole Miss is Ole Miss's defensive line can wreck anyone like there's there's something for about like seven or eight teams where I'm like yeah if they do even even in Miami like don't think it's great like their defense is great can ward can win a playoff game you know that's what I love about that I also have no idea how to handicap a matchup between Oregon and Georgia no idea that to me it might as well be playing in two different countries yeah like I don't I my brain can't comprehend what that matchup would even look like I know Oregon didn't look great against Wisconsin on Saturday that was kind of like Wisconsin's sort of everything they had in them and also Oregon that was their E-Street Game that was the longest streak of games without a buy week in the country you could see that they they were kind of running out of gas all in conference yeah they were running out of gas so like I wasn't shocked that they were they played with fire there I still think Oregon's very very good and they also like they have some of their guys I think they're running back to start they have them on like load basically the end of the game stop doing that once they get to the playoffs the end of that game was insane when Dan Lanning faked a punt yeah that was that was so stupid I think that's probably eight games he's his brain is probably exhausted this point yeah because that was some dumb shit that he tried to pull yeah wait with it yeah troll you had a question go ahead troll no no no no no I want it I want to come out of the we need like a graphic where he like he comes out from under what do you want to do I want to do I want to watch okay master non-troll I want I want the question I like troll you are dismissed Henry Lockwood do you have a question I will go sit max and cups in the couch I'll go sit in the booth I want like I don't know what I'm supposed to do sitting in the seat you're doing it you're doing a great job but I'm not trolling but when you do troll you do a great job like that's what the people want what did you think about Oregon flipping the jump around on Wisconsin by just going absolutely nuts what do you mean the fans no the players yeah a lot of a lot of teams do that oh yeah yeah that they took back jump around I kind of did yeah yeah great yeah no master thing so guess what Madison with the new teams in from the west coast there was a lot of Oregon fans there Madison's a great college town everyone puts it on their list of places they want to go see so we have a lot of fans show up my buddy was there he said there was an Oregon fans everywhere bucket list I was just curious okay that wasn't troll never is how you're washing huskies doing that yeah play spoiler this way that's that's the other thing I want to say just in defense in Indiana I know I'm defending Indiana a lot you don't know year to year what your schedule is gonna look like everyone everyone at Florida State on their schedule this year thought I understand what you're gonna say they did they did cancel game against Louisville for western Illinois that does that does hurt their case but they had on their schedule Michigan and Washington two teams that were in the national championship last year two teams that their coaches left and their programs completely took a big step back you can't really predict that part you know I'm I'm rooting very hard for Indiana you're gonna say the western Illinois thing which is fair yeah I learned about that like an hour ago oh no that's Louisville fans are all up in Indiana's face first igniting without the one who canceled the game yeah but in Indiana's defense like Indiana if you look at their schedule this year compared to what Indiana has played in the past you can't write any of these games now as easy wins for Indiana no like going into the season under a normal Indiana football team this is a hard schedule yes because they have not been good at football and they turned it around and they are very good at football I don't think that this is a fluke either yeah they got they got good players they got a great coach just got an extension by the way yeah which I mean extensions and college football same he's nothing really means he got a temporary raise at least for the next like month and then he's probably free to go anywhere he wants to like that contract on fire but yeah yeah there I mean nothing that they've done this year to me screams fluke at all I think Signeti is a he's a real deal what are you looking at this year well this was just what somebody else was oh yeah that's not a good guy on conference they're non-con they've they've skipped non-conference they decided to elect out of non-conference games they do have to go to Oregon and Penn State this year ODEU old Dominion can I saw yeah can I saw State one one game this year then they fired their coach in the third their program yeah Indiana State Sycamores uh yeah yeah that's fair they don't they skipped they skipped on conference I wish Wisconsin wouldn't play Alabama at home at home that sucks it sucks I'd rather have that be a win we'd be bowl out of your way now but you know what there's really no need to schedule a tough out of conference schedule with a 12th playoff well you could make the case yes you should because if Indiana had played in Beaten Louisville and then they lose to Ohio State they would still have a case to be in the in the 12th playoff if they lose to Ohio State and they have no no signature win no big win it's gonna be hard to make that case I would like to see an idiot yeah but you know what I'm saying I know they'd be doing earlier they would have a lot better of a chance but if you schedule if you schedule hard games for yourself out of conference it just makes it more likely that you're going to take away the possibility of you being in the playoff yeah that's loser tough it's cowards way out those cowards that's it's cowards but guess what the cowards way out is working right now well no it could backfire on them if they lose to Ohio State by law it actually will be the wrong approach because playing in beating Louisville would have gotten them in you're banking on the opportunity get kicked out by your one tough loss that you have and then spending the time getting mad at the committee for not putting you in even though you have one loss right which in as a loser is a pretty satisfying way to deal with it yeah um the big 12 so the big 12 could be left out I still don't think it's gonna happen BYU lost to Kansas which BYU's been playing with fire for a long time now we have Arizona State who is a great story and has been playing great ball could give BYU their second loss this weekend because they have to go down to Tempe and I'm our Colorado and Travis Hunter going to Kansas who's playing great balls ball as well is gonna be a tough one the big 12 just eats itself alive also shout out Kenny Dillingham the coach Arizona State he is he's the guy who you're gonna try out for in the offseason yeah I've been working out he's awesome I've been working the leg out the last couple days back on the Peloton I think I can get up what if I 40 40 yards by my 40th birthday yeah I love that is that good enough I love that study law at Arizona State sure they've got a good program right now yeah they've got every man's p-prisco what do you think that a law degree from Arizona State would get me what's what would my hourly rate be you'd be like hundred bucks good ambulance you only know one person who went to Arizona State and he's got issues I feel like a lot of grief from Arizona State DUI specialist yeah okay yeah I think that might be my goal yeah um I yeah the big 12 is gonna be chaotic they this is what the big 12 is built on parity the big 12 is built on the chaos the big 12 chaos I unlike very unlikely but could fuck them what are the chances it's probably unlikely but Oklahoma State is having just an awful season they are shitty Gandhi's gonna stick around for forever right yeah and still water yeah he's not going nowhere no no matter how shitty it gets I know not well I mean unless he wants to leave yeah no jets not at all oh I mean memes I was so perfect because it's like there's that fine line of him being like you guys accused me of being a troll did he get help dude Mike Gundy in New York would be so funny he's also is going off on rasini back here right now seriously where's he getting these sources where's he getting these sources why does that make sense we just beat the shit out of the Patriots before that before that game I'm gonna get I'm gonna go out on a limb I don't have any I don't have any rasini sources on this but you are a senior I'm saying I've not contacted my sources at receding incorporated but I'm gonna guess with the timing of everything maybe Joe Douglas was a source you think memes it's just a little far fetch to believe because they just beat the shit out of the Patriots on prime time the week before and they've lost because of a missed field goal which would have made it a 12 to 10 win win okay that really was the game that ended everything everything uh memes so Mike under yeah no yeah Mike under my gun to my gun to my gun to bring him on in dude he was fired at Charlotte all time football guy he's the dude that coaches and the cut off like the sleeveless vest on the sidelines and is like independently very wealthy yeah they they brought him back to practice this week yeah you see that yeah they let even though they fired him last week they let him come on to the practice field and address the team goodbye yeah which is uh I guess it's pretty cool for Charlotte because he seems like a cool guy yeah means what I actually expect to just try to do possibly Cliff Kingsbury I saw people say that no it's tough bring up scenarios to memes because he lives online so no matter what scenario bring up to him he's like I saw some tweets saying that I've seen most scenarios and I don't like most of them okay Mike for able's the only one I don't even think we've ruined Ben Johnson Ben Johnson would come in he would just be at a point out there's no chance for able to go into that situation no no Adam gave two point up once you run it back stop hyperdrive hyperdrive on I don't think there's a coach that wants to coach the Jets that will be the Jets back coach next year wait say that again there's not a coach out there that wants to coach the coach the Jets won't want to coach Jets it'll just be the only available job open because they want to be a coach no that's a coach so there's so it kind of sounds like you're saying there's no one out there who wants to coach the Jets correct that's an easier way to say it I like the way I do you got to find like a special teams coach that nobody knows about but is like a great leader of men yeah yeah I mean memes again we're in the same spot I do not think that like the Bears will get the first no no no no no no no you have a rookie quarterback correct still has a potential but my point is I don't the Bears will the the number one choice the Bears could make they'll say we're not going to interview him because he's too much of a man the number two choice we'll probably say I don't want to coach for the Bears because that's this one number three choice we're like I'm gonna go do this we'll get the fourth or fifth we're not a we're not the top choice yeah we're not the top choice right we never been the top choice team but you're definitely a more attractive choice than yes but we're not a top choice team that's a fact sir college coach at the I feel like that's where the Jets are at the Jets are at the Jets are at that point like every franchise has been through this you try every other way you try to get guys that you think might be sure if I're hits and none of them work out and then you say oh fuck it I'll try to get a hot shot college coach we'll just see if that works even though it has never worked with the exception maybe Harbaugh and but I don't I guess Harbaugh was like a carol coach Pete Carroll yeah but he also had like a previous stint in the NFL for the Jets yeah the Jets tried doing Pete Carroll good point Jimmy Johnson Lulz yes great NFL career yes you guys want to hear finish the college football talk with one of the craziest stats I've ever seen sure not Travis Hunter who should be the Heisman he needs to be we need car and he's because this Kansas is very good now that's a great great touchdown run yet by the way how sick this is a really stupid thought but how thick sick would it be if the commanders drafted the Kansas quarterback at the back up yeah no I don't want that because I was getting I was doing Daniel I was rooting for Kansas yeah on Saturday night when I was watching the game just because they kept saying Jalen Daniels yeah it made me feel like half excited yeah it would be cool yeah uh here's the crazy stat so Kentucky is playing Texas this weekend that is the farthest west Kentucky football has ever played a football game oh wow good set that's crazy it's like half the country half the country Kentucky has never played a football game west of Austin Texas not even a bowl game nope that's nuts not even a bowl game not even a bowl game this is from what was the Brian Davis what was the previous record was that it was awesome Rouge they played Austin like 40 years ago so they're matching their previous right well depending on where the stadium is I think DKR has been in the same spot okay but did they add to it they did add to it do they add to it west they built a highway and overpass next to it but I don't know if they moved it if they did move it I think they would have moved it a little bit north west because there's another field next to it yeah so it could possibly be the furthest they've ever gone UK's last game at Texas was 73 years ago that's crazy so this is the furthest what that was bear Brian coaching them everybody was a Kentucky coach 1951 that's just nuts to me never played a game further west than Austin Texas okay Darryl k royal stadium has been home to the long-range football team since 1924 okay so I'm thinking it has not moved but have they added to the stadium which I soon they did they add to the same so the fans might be the furthest away from Kentucky but I don't know where they walk in has the she has the entrance changes it further west than east I think the entrance is on the south side okay I'm not sure I'll get I'll get boots on this and find out if there's any orientation of the field it's changed at all okay yeah like even if they changed the layout of the field and and like one of the end zone goes like five feet further west I'm looking at the furthest west they've ever played right now I'm actually looking at the history of the renovations at TKR stadium they added suites and when was it the day that 1951 1951 anything post 1951 here they added lights so that was a day game okay this is the important stuff I'm not I think it might be because they expanded both end zones okay so the walk in is going to be further away no matter what okay so yeah we might have some okay you're watching history when you watch that yep okay last thing before we kick it to ourselves Hank good job we're gonna talk about the Cavs with Pat Bev but you broke up the Cavs yep pop the champagne NBA Cup they actually are very fun games it does feel like they try harder I will say two things because there has been also a lot of talking reports about the NBA ratings being down and ask people you know asking what the cause is I do like the NBA Cup it makes important this other loss the game last week to the Hawks and they were sure lost and all of a sudden if they had lost tonight then they would be screwed for the NBA Cup which is crazy but it made tonight's game that much more interesting I do not like the court I don't like I don't I think for a casual fan it's gonna take a while for them to get the NBA Cup it just doesn't help it's like what is wrong with this court then you have to explain this whole long NBA Cup thing not a fan of the court I disagree I also hate wait are you not a fan of court are you not a fan of explaining to people the courts I just don't like personally watching them and it's like why are they doing this and they say it's because it's for the NBA Cup I just don't think that's ever gonna click to a casual fan like ooh new court I like it because it feels different I like it because it comes with some nice time lapses like you get to watch when you see them you know changing the court out and the game feels different yeah it feels like you're watching on twitch it looks like it's in a twitch streamers room yeah and I just hate the Southwark City Connect jerseys this year what are they they're they're Oregon jerseys I don't understand they're like city connect we're gonna connect it back to a city the Southwark's have had the same jersey and like scheme forever and they just made jerseys they legitimately look like Oregon yeah I don't love the the crazy jerseys in the NBA too many and the Cavs were playing on Sunday and they were in blue jerseys like we talked about it before but it's like when you turn on a game you can't tell what the teams are unless you look at the scoreboard that's a problem it was when the heat were wearing a yellow jersey and look like the Pacers that I was like this is too much and it was I think the Blazers and nuggets were playing the nuggets were wearing the Blazers colors either way we are doing we're running a contest so we released our picks we told you last week we released our picks on uh socials every single Tuesday for our NBA Cup picks uh so far we have the first day so so this is in counting what's playing right now I'm three and opf these two and one hanks two and one max you're one and two so you're at the bottom of both yeah and we're recording this late right now some of I just got absolutely fucked in my pick for tonight okay so uh but the NBA Cup you can bet on in draft games and you can follow our picks and we're running a competition so we'll have the updated leaderboard I got one two and one I'm gonna be three and three I would one two yeah so waiting on the uh the Spurs thunder I like the NBA Cup though it does feel different either November NBA is tough to get into and then you turn on the TV and it's different court you're like oh okay they're trying a little harder I want to win it no teams ever won the NBA Cup and the finals so you know the finals after are you coming at retro no no no we have from the finals after yeah same year yeah uh Chris ball has five assists I need two more it's half time I'm just gonna count that as a win oh so I'm two and oh congr from one and one right now I need a day to night you know you need a what wait sit again oh no yeah I need a day I need a day I need a day I need a day you need a day bad I need a day bad big way bad bad I need I need a day to be huge okay uh let's uh do's hot T cool throne and then we have pat bev Stell blue coffees new can lattes are here crafted with 100% Colombian coffee each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream and whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup stell blue cans are for those always on 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lived in the house uh very sad but he was he revealed the other cancer diagnosis john stamos then uh to show support of him did a photoshop of him wearing a bald cap and posted that yes uh and now it's his way to show it crazy crazy move wait it was a photo he did a photoshop of him wearing a bald cap he put on a bald cap right and then he also photoshopped it so he could look even extra bald more bald i think i think he photoshopped where the lines on the bald cap are yeah um it sounds like in same move maybe his heart was in the right place i don't think so i don't know couldn't cut his hair off well i'll say this friend i'll say this there's one very lucky woman that's made the right decision not having to hang around that guy stay most anymore that'll be a Rebecca romaine yeah talk about an upgrade moving on to jlc i had it as my cool throne for jlc cool throne jlc just stand up guy jlc would never do that jlc is just to shave his head yeah 100 percent or just make a joke about how he's not gonna shave his head right and it make it very funny and he would probably his lap like jlc making laugh with your cancer yeah like that's how funny he is bing bong jesse yeah i like he would he would look at it like bing bong cancer you're out bing bong this is rebecca you know rebecca this was this was crazy though like the fact that he did this um i guess the only little small part is that he admitted to it like it would have been worse if he had just pretended that he shaved his head but still an insane insane move you i mean just and i mean just how big of a narcissist you have to be streaming that's that's really what it is it's is that how do i make it about me right don't even just don't even or just shave your head or just shave your head and which you didn't do and just don't wear bald cap me like i'm here visiting my friend i hope he gets better crazy also some guys his culture is not your cause right yeah some guys look better with a shaved head hank thank you one of the box uh he looks like just an evil like an alien billionaire he's a penis head what a dick jlc made me chuckle pretty hard monday night uh he just tweeted like need 44 from mixing tonight he almost got it yeah but that's just like a that's a very like fantasy monday night yeah i just let me i got one guy left just need a 44 yeah and we're we win this week yeah he we're gonna have jlc on uh i think uh next week for an update on the fantasy i miss jlc yeah we're gonna have him because i know people are asking um i cool thrown his paul skeins yeah that was i saw my shit was he on the hot seat though he was on the cool throne dude two cool turns i had two cool thrones i thought i was gonna be okay and i'm turns out i'm not so paul skeins great speech last night can we play it he was yeah i don't want it he's gonna take too long it probably will max is really bad at this notice the speech goes on for a while oh i think i mean max pulling it up no it's i don't know if we have any bad memory on the on the sd card but yeah really hard for us oh we don't have shonda gun wait hit the sound thing yeah there you go producer yep i was waiting for a good time for you to start playing it guy okay guy yeah come on guy from all of us what does this honor mean to you right now this is cool that's it he crushed it so good this is cool that you know what that was cool and what more do you need to say yeah this is cool we don't need victory speeches where guys get up there and they misuse the word humble a million times like every single award show it's literally them sucking your dick and god's dick and giving you an award for being great and being better than everybody else and then you get behind the microphone you're like yeah now that you guys have all told me how great i am the first word that comes to mind is humble yeah the the meme of paul skines winning the rookie of the year and paul skines sitting in a fire truck he's so much happier to be in a fire truck but that's that's what fire trucks do to people yeah fire trucks are fucking cool so did you catch school uh i it's not with this uh when's the awards they they draw the whole thing out so tonight if you're listening this tonight uh terik scuba will win the al sion was it like the 12 days of christmas for the awards i've been waiting for this forever uh shout out the a wl i got to track him down who handed me a envelope on when we were in detroit for the draft and i opened the he handed to me walked away opened it and said take terks google plus 400 to win the sion what why doesn't majorly baseball do this like in the middle of the playoffs i know or before the playoffs start or just do like i i do it all in one night there was like a majorly baseball in in california yes the same thing that they have going on there like counting all the baseball writers signatures and matching them up to make sure the mail in pallet's are legit there was a i want to say there was some type of event going on in vegas with all the baseball players why didn't they just do all the announcements then it makes no sense it makes no sense does all yeah shut up that a wl i gotta find it i gotta find the original tweet just been sitting there for six months but he nailed it imagine if he doesn't win i mean you've jinxed this as much as i mean he was my he was minus two thousand last time you could bet on it he has to win it yeah that would be insane if you didn't win it i would be like voter fraud this is unjinxable yeah what is i mean this is your good oh shut up i hate you just did that yeah his last odds were minus five thousand eight hundred and two is that right is that possible with the tickets that's on that i mean if he loses someone in mlb's out to get me you know what i might i might fucking load up and see if i can just make some quick money on five thousand now yeah let's go we're giving that out i'm giving that out as an official pick an official pick how much money can i deposit into the responsibly i don't think it's actually i don't think it's up anymore yeah i'm just gonna see hey can you try to pull those out yes i'm up okay but like the records show i would have endorsed that pick yes uh my hot seat is the utahaki club piece you piece of shit you don't even have a fucking name what kind of professional sports organization goes entire season just naming themselves after the sport um Alexander vegkin was taken out by dirty knee to knee hit last night oh after scoring two goals getting within 27 goals of of tying wank ritsky's all-time record excuse me 26 of tying the record 27 of passing the all-time goals record and he was on the best streak of his life the way that ovi started the season out 39 years old top goal score in the NHL the capture on fire right now and ovi is just insane and how many so is he hurt yeah they said week to week uh lower leg injury uh i looked at every single online twitter doctor out there and they came to the conclusion probably a uh torn mcl or sprained mcl which is the same thing depending on what grade the sprains uh so he's week to week now which probably means he'll be out for i don't know three weeks but ovi's different yeah russian machine never break that was his famous quote when they asked him how he's how he's been able to stay healthy uh throughout his career so i'm just gonna hope and pray that whatever Putin's got left in the vault he can send over just to inject it directly into ovi's knee the that's the worst too because you can never figure out what a hockey injury is no low body just no they will give no details nothing you can't even see like when when a guy gets hit he's got so many pads on that you can't you know where we zoom in on like a football player or passable player like oh that's exactly what it was you just have no idea yeah and then i was watching right afterwards he goes back on the ice to try to skate on it see if he can do it's tough and you're hockey tough and it looks like he's skating around but in reality he's just like barely touching one leg down and i'm like oh he can skate no you forget that they're wearing ice skates and so they can just glide on the other leg shit uh so yeah it's not good bad for hockey i would say yeah i'd agree i had i had done the math on this last night when he was on his tear and on this pace you know when he would have broken wing grat skis record when it would have been at edminton felt like that was set up and he was gonna break it and i was talking about this like two goals a game pace that he's no i took my own i didn't i own yeah well no but like i did my own pace i saw i saw yeah i saw your tweet and i was like that did you start it and it's gonna work your way back i know i did i did that my second time to see if i could like increase the pace or decrease the pace it was like will oh i break the record this year that'd be crazy and pf2 was like jennuary 21st my uh my pace my pace that i had him on had him scoring i think it was like 0.75 goals per game okay which is taking it's not as good of a pace as he's been on uh so at that pace he would have broken it at edminton right now i don't know if he's gonna break it this season which it stinks to maybe have to wait another year for this and people forget ovi ovi lost two year a full year to the first rock lockout and then i think he lost like 50 games to the second lockout uh plus covid lost games to that too so he's actually he is on pace right now to break gretzky's record in fewer games than gretzky played it which is kind of crazy that is crazy oh he's been so much fun to watch his entire career he was like the one bright light that dc sports had for a very long time so i've been counting down to this for like the last seven years once it was theoretically possible so it stinks that those bastards in utah uh send a hit out gretzky gretzky's got shooters i wouldn't be surprised if gretzky told biz like hey can you get on the horn with some of the guys that are up in utah i know you know a lot of them from your time in erizona could you have i blame biz this is unfair that's fair dirty guy fox fairs um another hot seat is not for licks because uh they're under a lot of pressure right now from the NFL yeah to make sure that they don't fuck up the christmas day stream like they did the jake paul mic tyson fight and so i could say their ass how uh he live streamed from his phone uh the jake paul mic tyson fight and he had seven million people watching it's pretty good he's taking a little pressure off him so he was live streaming from his net hiking no i think he was in the arena he was just doing the video board i love that i love that seven million people were watching i love did you tell me brown have something to do with the roof panels falling off i don't know wouldn't surprise me no uh yeah so netflix is in trouble because christmas day with beyond stake concert at half time probably gonna have more viewers i think yeah the jake paul it's gonna be close because that fight did numbers yeah yeah it's gonna be close i don't know 60 was 60 million was the total they were watching so it might not be average NFL game is what 20 million i feel like this fight was like 34 36 million i don't know i don't know what i thought it was more than that i think it was i saw 60 i saw 60 as well either way you have to figure numbers up yeah they absolutely can and i guess that would be cool throwing mba for christmas day oh you might get more ratings no they're not cocked no people would rather watch the the wheels the wheels spinning yeah yeah i mean how you're gonna compete with the on side although the i don't know that thing no it's sealers chief the thing's gonna get him to suck uh whoa what a suck what a suck which one's the packers package office pretty good i guess yeah but yeah the other one's suck it hypothetically bears lines so it's hypothetically if if the stream was not working on netflix and christmas day let's say uh 12 o'clock central time that's when you're supposed to start we tune in we start to watch it doesn't work for anybody does the NFL just delay the game until it can get broadcast or do they play it no because no but in those situations the tech guys are like it's fine it's fine yeah all business speed is sitting there being like it's fine i don't see any issues yeah people are saying that it's fine i can get on my phone right here in the stadium yeah like seriously but that would be an interesting problem for the NFL to have i think that they would delay the game i think they would delay it as long as it took to get a broadcast right yeah because you can't you can't play a football game and i'd have it be on tv i agree i just a question yeah why can't they just like get the pran the amazon guys and just be like hey help us yeah just do do do it we'll pay you pay so saying like that why would be just peacock or why would be so help Netflix basically like hey you just pay them you just pay them they're all different production that's true just get a bigger router what why no because basil's wanted this game like it's like they competed Netflix won the rights to christmas hey we cucked you've got these rights but now actually we need your help yeah they're gonna be like sure there'll be a second i feel like there's gotta be like product a different production team that can put this i don't know that it's the production team it's the server's infrastructure they need a bigger router yeah right need a bigger router yeah i think amazon would be like no absolutely like fucking for even asking us that amazon has all the service do you think he could do it no absolutely not yeah i guess if he had the servers i feel like he could do it no no it's just it's servers feet i want you to know that i think that you could do it i think with no issues no issues also can he's talking chain some computers speak and definitely do it everyone tweet everyone tweet all business Pete when you're listening this and say uh pug and chain need to have they have so we know they don't have the desktops we don't know i know and p also i think p has some free month trials for netflix so if anyone wants it for the game tweet them and ask for code yeah Netflix codes yeah i like how hanks said that Netflix bought the rights to christmas they did christmas is owned by netflix they did the handles at all business peace all at all business p tweet him do you think uh i mean the craziest part about what netflix did to christmas and the NBA is that they put it on their own app where you can't even flip back and forth to devia games yeah it takes you 30 seconds when the people multiple tv's get get a nice win yep get a nice win uh okay your cool throne my cool throne is the usmans national team and their new coach put your tino because he beat jamaica fortitude and some tournament that i always forget the name of involving the words nations league concacaf champions tournament so they went forward to with burhaltor in the stands they made burhaltor go out and watch the game cocked him he sent a little cuck chair in the corner and watched peppy and and uh and pisillich dominate just crushed jamaica is uh not to get political but uh the trump celebration is pretty fun how the guy everyone's doing it is pool is just getting under fire he did it i don't know if he's getting under fire i've seen more people saying like what will it's going to be fun to watch lives freak out about yeah i feel like it's just a fun celebration i think it's just a fun dance to do it just do this just do this you know swing anyone can do it yeah um yeah so they went forward to instagram which leads us to a fun fact that now the usmans national team and in fact reg burhaltor himself who was fired in july of this year he's got more wins in atent stadium this year than mike macarth and the cowboys cowboys wow wait who who does greg burhaltor the fire has more has more but that wasn't a game obviously last night because they're playing football you're playing football last night so he had already had that he already has those ways even though he got fired in july got it mike macarth he will be fired doesn't have as many wins even though he plays many more games it is a fun fact i thought that was a fun fact um all right my hot seats is well we're gonna talk about pepep but i feel like we kind of glossed over it this tyroshmaxity jolan beat thing is feels for real what happened so tyroshmaxity called out jolan beat in a meeting and said that he's late and disrespectful to everyone i didn't realize that this is just like a well-known fact that he's always done this uh there was a book in 2015 where everyone was like jolan beat is just a terrible to work with uh feels like feels like things are bad right now macarth and beat her friends they challenge each other often what does that mean apparently it was a constructive meeting where does that mean that they challenge each other what about the 2017 comments how many times did you practice this speech in the mirror before you sat down zero times that's a that's a that's that's fake macarth and beat her friends they challenged each other you had that ready to go no i mean that's just that's just a fact so what the allegations from the past what were the allegations from the past hank that he showed up late and then he was a terror to the whole staff oh yeah yeah yeah whatever it was just like 2017 or whatever book whatever the fuck i think i was maybe his rookie year yeah it was when brown was a coach and he was mad because all of his assistants came up to him and they're like hey we have to have an intervention with you because jol is such a huge asshole to everyone that we needed to escalate this to the head coach hmm what's it what's the date we're worried about some 10 years ago nearly every member of the sixer staff basketball was awaiting him why are we here brown asked he knew the meeting was about him beat but didn't understand one of these distant coaches stood up and said coach we're here because there's a problem with joell he's disrespected just about everyone in this room and has become a major distraction you want to say what's something about when you were 18 frannie Leiden oh i'm just saying oh oh if it was still a problem 10 years later then yeah it's probably like a bad sign yeah if hey it was still on that's not such a problem like he's showing up late isn't that's different you think that's not a problem no that what about the sit people or said it wasn't a problem but what about the people saying that this is maybe the first time it's ever been challenged that's not they it said in the thing that and maxi and in beat go back and forth at each other because there's a mutual respect and friendship sounds like there's not a lot of respect for a beat you know what you guys this is where the national podcast thing turns disgusting all right all right all right all right all right all right you segment alert hang to the national podcast that turns disgusting okay new segment regional podcast Philly where all right Philly hey welcome back to lockdown six or listen yeah we want to be we're about to be losing the wizards in the standings but like Joel's done so much for our cities you know no we got to give him some respect i think it's disgusting what's with the reporters in the locker room we're trying to divide us i need to be unified and we're a great team i don't think that we change anything we don't change anything except maybe we keep the fucking reporters out of the locker well we respectfully Anthony and gino i disagree joe mpleeds a bump he's a bump he doesn't respect the hardworking people filled up yeah i get up i get up every morning five o'clock think about the construction workers and the trash workers and Joel B can't be there at 10 a.m i don't shoot around the problems the problems with Joel started to get much more clearer when Nick fucking Sirianni walked through the store and he took his paws and put him all over a city and fucked it all up oh can't win a second round matchup but he can give us an mvp so you know you got to think about what he's given to us no let's lose or talk Anthony all right how do we do great really good resource podcast i fucking love the fluff of you it feels like a problem 211 in this feels like a problem yeah it's no it's november 19 okay so here's max here's where i think the real problem is um i'm sure the conversations like this happen a lot in nba locker rooms and we never hear about them i'm sure they're common place i agree with but the fact that it got out that tells me that there's something there tells me that people are sick of his shit because usually it wouldn't get out if it joe and beat is maybe not been the best teammate shows up late whatever the story is but if he's playing well and the team's doing well that stuff never gets out he's playing the team's playing poorly now the cracks are happening it's like playing there's a mole there's a mole in the organization which you know we got to sniff out because that should never have gotten out that's that's correct but what if this is the turning point of the whole season and we started the championship deviate back to this moment it's a strange turning point yeah or tank kuber flag oh no all right all right you don't get to say that you don't get to say that because when i said that i want to be a kuber flag i'm sure i think kuber flag this is true you said we are out you said the six are out i'm still in big i said big heck again i'm yep you said you said i was out yeah now back in no you can't do that no back in that's illegal that's illegal i didn't realize i did that yeah you did i was out to a man in my word i will thank you thank you man of honor what's crazy is that you're tied with wizards right now it's yeah i mean it doesn't it all doesn't fucking what point will it matter christmas so how many wins you have to have by christmas how many times that we said on the show that i understand but i want to hold you to this so this wasn't the six there's no one would care okay i agree with you we're not talking about okay if it was a seldex no if it was a seldex we would absolutely be about it so why yeah but that's because you have these players and like the narrative that's been around them the bumsfucking suck we don't talk about that at all i have i've brought it up multiple times yeah i mean we're we're gonna say that there's a mole in the the bowls of the wizard like we suck nobody would care about yeah all right so you have 13 games christmas is your 13th game how many wins do you have to have to be like this is a problem uh there's 13 games until christmas i think you got to get the 10 wins i know 10 it's 10 sounds way like way too many let me see the schedule so you got to go 10 wins and you got to do so you got to go eight and uh five that's not that hard eight and five five yeah five eight five five five five orlando twice without powwow there you go chicago charlotte twice detroit yeah there's eight yes ten wins ten wins got ten wins by christmas let's go ten wins by christmas we're not gonna talk about it this until christmas all right but you have to get the ten wins yep what if yabu's the the mole that's never happened with people Paul all right so max there's been a new wrinkle a wrinkle reveal to the 76ers drama to the saga um i want to saga what's the saga we're doing this later on at night 937 um somebody thinks that they found the leak of who reported this or of who gave the scoop away okay this is this is from raptor moment match match match match let me finish all right this from raptor moments this is a stretch raptor moments yeah raptor moments is this source yeah well here just hear me out here okay wait that's this is what's the name of the sweater this is a raptor moment this is a he burner yeah what huh okay well just just wait yeah i'll hear it okay i'll hear the wrinkle all right so um the quote from the article was tyreece loves the big fella but this is the elephant in the room a person involved in the meeting told espn if you go back to the raptors over the last couple years nik nurse is very fond of using the phrase elephant in the room and he's done at least three times a common phrase a common phrase this is this is an insane addition this is like to him stealing people's quotes in the course this is fucking go yeah like what's this thing for something elephant in the room yeah elephant in the room i mean everyone says an elephant in the room what's that's like every report ever raptor moments i believe raptor moments two thousand raptor moments isn't actually reporting anything they're literally just being like look this phrase was used in this phrase was used yeah raptor moments is connecting the dots right but he's not he you can't believe raptor moments because raptor moments doesn't have any actual knowledge of this no what no actual knowledge whatsoever yeah he's just saying oh nik nurses said elven in the room and this person did mm-hmm so nik nurses the i liked i like the thought i do like to believe that elven is coaching snitching on his players only meaning that is a funny thought yeah so i'm gonna believe it also i wasn't a player's only me another fan pointed out that in a past mbc sports philadelphia sori it's explained that nik nurse said on danny green's podcast in 2018 that he had a mini elephant on his desk in toronto which metaphorically helped him prevent obvious concerns with a team from growing before being addressed nik nurse loves the phrase elephant in the room everyone uses it he had a fucking elephant elephant in the room you use the phrase elephant in the room he's right about that yeah but if you walk in the nurse's office there's always an elephant the he has an elephant on his desk to remind himself of elephants in rooms have you ever used the phrase elephant in the room not into a quarter wait what was the original quote the original quote was standard quote of all time i'll read i read the quote uh tyress loves the big fella but this is the elephant in the room who's talking about tyress loves joell wait but who wrote that that was in the espian report so that wasn't even a quote what what no that is a quote the direct quote is for the right place so tyress loves the big fella but this is no no max you don't know how to read quotation marks tyress is a big fella but this is the elephant in the room is the quote from an anonymous synonymous source with the sexers max you're looking at an apostrophe that's just the one mark the quotation mark is to who gives a fuck everybody says elephant in the room when there's an elephant in the room i mean it seems like niknurse is obsessed with elephants who else with the source be the max because it seems like we got one good lead in nothing else yeah that's a great lead hey okay here's the only only pushback i know this wasn't part of the report that the sixers players were like hey niknurse you need a coach us harder why would niknurse leak that his players are mad at him because he also in the report they said that in turn the players have to pay more attention detail okay so maybe isn't it nurse so maybe niknurse in the meeting was like that's fair criticism i'm going to hear you but then and but can i ask you to also you buy in as well and we'll be in the middle good coaching okay i'm i'm on team yeah it was just stupid it was stupid i mean max i think i think i can read you swayed me like i do imagine if memes got this got this news we should stop listening to reports i just went from the athletic to raptors mony raptors moments with an s we should stop listening to reports it's fucking us up oh okay back to whatever we were talking about okay my cool throne is uh kentucky basketball because i don't know if you guys saw but john calpe perry is now begging fans to show up to basketball games at arkansas and he was like if you don't want to come to the game give us the tickets back we'll find someone who can come to the game and they have also not looked great in the start of their season and then on the other side kentucky there's a clip going around that's awesome it's mark pope coaching in the huddle essentially telling his players exactly what cooper flag is going to do on that last possession against duke and being like this is how we're going to defend it he's going to spin you're gonna we're gonna send the extra man two hands take the ball away and then it's like a cut up where he's saying it and it happens exactly like that something that kentucky basketball is missing that in-game coaching so kentucky basketball good for you guys yeah it's an awesome clip it makes you think that mark pope is is going to be a great coach yeah but we are very easily sold on clips like that but i also saw like how in the red looks weird and then him being like please come to the games yeah not not a great look they are three in one they lost a baler who's a pretty good team but they also have kind of like they had a couple games where they were struggling a little bit with lesser competition yeah it's not i would say so far kentucky won this trade yes for sure um and also kentucky this also is probably because they were playing against duke but kentucky seemed like a fun team yes like an easy fun team for root four i'm sure that once they start becoming more kentucky then they will be easier to hate but going up against duke and beating duke in that way it made me feel things for the university kentucky i have those sauce for kentucky i got no problem with kentucky and that's probably because of 2015 what i'm gonna say beat them yeah right like it's just maybe i know but it's also like that was i mean they were undefeated that season so and i love match-ones and those guys so yeah i want kentucky basketball be good i might be an 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Pat Beth. Okay we now welcome on our co-worker very special guest. We're current guest. It is Pat Beth.
Pat Pat's probably back from Israel for a short stint. I thought World War 3 had broken out when you walked into the gambling cave on Sunday. I was like why is Pat here? Why is he like I thought he was in the middle of the season so you have a break.
You have a break and you are how far into the season in Israel? About two about two and a half months in and how's the team plan? Phenomenon one team in Israel right now. Number one team?
How are you playing? Phenomenon. I've been fucking hoping. How is the game different over like is it when you go over there because you played obviously in different leagues around the world before but you go over there is it is it I don't say easier but is it like it's easier but like I get everyone's best shot.
Yeah you know because I like this NBA player right every American every coach every import every import from another country everywhere I go it's you know they beat us you know all we beat NBA NBA team or NBA player so I'm getting everyone's best shot. Yeah you know it's what I asked for so it's perfect. Yeah how are the fans over there? Phenomenon.
I mean like you got to think I'm thinking like eight to nine thousand a game. It's a lot of smoke with Israel in other countries so like we can't go play in Turkey we have to meet at a mutual site so we'll meet in Serbia. Teams that it's smoke with we always meet the mutual site. All our Israeli games are played in Israel of course but yeah are European League games the games that it's a you know a Greek team or a Turkish team or you know any team like that or it's kind of smoke we always meet at a mutual site.
So what about the game how does the game translate to to the Israeli League? So first so first the minutes I'll show he plays him in his recorder. Okay that's that's time and why you can't it's no defensive three seconds so you can just end the play. You just park out there.
Yeah yeah all day right so it's really beat your man to activate the big guy to make the next play. Yeah right so you don't see a ton of guys going I don't know 20s and 25 points again over there. Yeah so he's there's a guy just standing under the hoop basically just sharding all the shots. All the that's crazy.
Yeah literally living in the paint. Crowdy paint making you you know make the right play consistently every single time. And do you you haven't gotten a technical yet is that because of the language barrier? I'm sure you've said things that should get you a technical.
Yeah I just mean I don't know it's wild and I play when I had a ball a lot I'm so focused on like the game and focused on like okay trying to win the game try to do small things to win a game that I'm not over dramatic or over like I wouldn't say emotional but just in character. Yeah an NBA I can do that I can get away with that a lot and they're quick to give me a tech also. Yeah is it more like you're also like in the NBA you there's a pat dev role where you come in you fucks you know you're kind of a pastor you make things a problem for me you get in their heads. No.
And then I would imagine maybe I'm wrong but in your current setup you get in the game because you expect to be like a leader and I don't know how ball dominant you're like one of the best players. Yeah over there. Yeah the superstar. So you can't be getting tech can't be getting tech.
Can't have that type of energy you know so it's all it's all for me it's okay I'm saying double teams every night I'm saying triple teams every night I'm saying uh you know the best defenders on me every night I'm saying I'm dribbling ice so I see guys running to me I gotta make extra play so it's just a different roll up. Yeah so people that are saying like pat dev got soft because he's not getting technical. What would you say to those people? I mean my numbers I got better offensively so I guess it's working.
More focus. Yeah more locked in. Yeah yeah and I can get away with an NBA because you know NBA the refs they know me they know me I'm an elbow I'm gonna say yeah my ass he can't fucking shoot fuck you. You know I'm gonna say that type of shit in the game which is they'll give me a tag where they not go really kicking you out.
You know you can work your way with the refs in the NBA. Yeah all right so I got a tough question for you. I'll do a tough question. Okay two.
First tough question is um the way last year ended not the best because obviously you guys got bounced you threw a pass to someone. I got to look ready for a pass. I was wearing a uniform. Yeah you were just trying to get some numbers up on the pod afterwards.
No. You were just asking people to subscribe. No. Do you think any of that like how did it work in the off season when you were trying to figure out where you're gonna play was that part of it at all or was it you wanted to go play in Israel?
I don't think it helped. It didn't help. Yeah. I'm gonna say that.
I don't think it helped. But we still had two three offers for the minimum. Yeah you know. So it wasn't like a blackball situation.
No I don't think so. I had offers now to come back you know. So uh. Looking at those offers?
I mean the goal I would assume is to eventually get back in the NBA. I mean not back in the NBA it's it's uh it's uh when you're out of it right and you see teams that you used to be on kind of struggling a little bit. All of your teams. Yeah and you see that uh you know you're set up you know the the stage that you're on in like the big stage.
Yeah like being away from it. There's no other fucking stage like that. Yeah like no other stage than I don't give a fuck and I'm not even talking about a playoff game or a cup game or like a Eastern Conference game or championship game. I'm absolutely talking about fucking games.
16 of the season. You don't fucking biggest show in the world. Right. There's no other place like that.
Right. So like organically as a kid NBA dream I feel the need of like damn I want that. I want to go back there. Yeah.
And the one thing I love about you is you have the utmost confidence at all times. That's why you're that's why you've made it so far in the NBA. That's why you've played for so long was how last season ended was it humbling at all where it's like okay Pat like let's take a step back. Maybe got a you know like was there any of that?
No. Okay. In my mind you got to think about mine. I'm like shit I just literally want to play off game by myself.
I'm gonna say by myself but you know the uh you got everyone injured on the on the box. Yeah. And then I had to step up and then we went an elimination game that you know a lot of people count on itself for. So in my mind and you know with the you know different games in Boston and you know the freedom I have with Nick Nurse and the freedom I have with the Bucks like for me that was probably one of my best NBA offensive years ever.
Yeah you know. Yeah so I took it as okay cool. I got a lot of juice in the tank. I take care of my body like a motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying like I spend a ton of my body each year to be healthy and you know prepare for entire season. So to me it's like okay now I made a ton of money. I made you know almost 100 million dollars in the NBA. I get to go somewhere else where they're paying me more than the minimum.
Which you know no matter if I had a career year or not if Russell Westbrook takes minimum Calari takes minimum guess what? Pat Bev you get minimum. Yeah. Just how it is.
Yeah regardless of my play or a ball against my own or whatever the situation be and I don't think that's fair. That's the that was my issue. Right. I work my ass out.
I had better years and all of them. I was like what the fuck I'm getting the minimum. Yeah. Okay.
So a podcaster, podcaster after the game when they ask you to elaborate on what happened. Yeah. Instead of just right away saying subscribe to the Pat Bev pod. I know you're a great marketer but instead of saying that right away why don't you do like a tease.
You start answering the question and you say to hear my full thoughts subscribe to the Pat Bev pod or you could do a podcast live in person to that reporter answer the question but in the middle of your answer throwing an ad read. Yeah. So you start talking about what happened and they said so I subscribed to BetterHelp BetterHelp.com. Yeah.
But mine was originally that was mine throughout since I've had the pod. Yeah. You've been doing that. That wasn't just a one-off.
Yeah. That one. Yeah. I agree with that.
Have you thought about maybe instead of saying are you subscribed to the Pat Bev pod. You can't ask me a question unless you subscribe to the Pat Bev pod. If you ask them or you subscribe to the part of my take because the answer probably yes and they can ask you the question. No.
I'm probably not though. I don't know who I'm talking to. That was an NBA crew. I mean that was an NBA crew.
I'm talking to the fan. They don't like another person. They don't want to shame you. They want to admit it for sure.
Yeah. I mean obviously I think you said it afterwards like you should have handled it better but it wasn't it did get spun out as like I can't believe he said this like no he said it all year. Yeah. But it's like that because we're media right so anything that you know it's frowned upon.
I don't know something done they go try to make the next thing but like the worst thing. Yeah. I've never I've never punched anyone right I never hit anyone teammates. I never say fucking coach I'm walking out of practice.
I've never got kicked out of practice. Yeah. Ever since I'm in the NBA. You know what I'm saying?
So like my behavior is one thing but like it's a lot of shit that I haven't done also. Yeah. You know which shows where I've been in the leagues so long also. Yeah.
Right. Yeah. No. There's a reason why you keep getting you keep getting signed to teams in the NBA because you're a valuable piece and a good teammate from this part.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes they get caught up in like the theatrics but we set at the time where like Pat has been telling every report.
No. Since I had the podcast. Since you had the podcast. Since you had the podcast.
It's a standard answer. Yeah. I've got an easy question for you. Talk to me.
Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me a little bit on Sunday when you came in. Middle East crisis.
Yeah. Um. It's creepy. In the least.
Yeah. For one I don't think that I can solve it. Okay. That's a really good answer.
That's the right answer. That's a really good answer. Right. So how are you keeping up with the NBA while you're over there?
What's the time difference like? So uh oh shit. So uh what my three three p.m. It's 7 a.m.
here. So all the first game 6 p.m. is probably like one o'clock in the morning my time. Right.
So not keeping it up with a ton but a ton of highlights but not with drafting shots of draft games. Um it's kind of exciting to kind of be up a couple hours now. Trying to see scores trying to see the fuck go score. What in the first quarter type shit?
So yeah. Shot of drafting. All right. So I got a question about this NBA.
The Cavs. Yeah. They've I mean this is running on Wednesday. So they play the Celtics in a few hours and they might lose that game but they started undefeated.
Uh what is it about the Cavs? Kenny Kenny Atkinson is a really good coach and clippers. So yeah. So tell me about Kenny Atkinson.
What does he do that makes it? Because it feels like the Cavs last year they were a good team playoff team but this is they're playing out of their mind right now. So when he had uh first off Kenny is a player's coach. Right.
First off when you speak about Kenny Kenny you gotta understand this is a coach that crosses every T.s every I. Right. When I was there he wasn't the coach running to go work with Kawhi Paul George. He was working with me Nick Batoom and Zubak.
Mm hmm. You know. So you can understand his kind of color of work dealing with the type of players he dealt with and he was the head of uh uh the individual uh performance side. Yeah.
So when you see a coach like that his ability like you know I think he ran our offense. You know but the way he teach it the way he taught it the way he ran it or the the I don't think I've ever heard him say I don't know. Probably heard him say some curse word but never add someone. You know.
Phenomeno guy. Yeah. Phenomeno man. Yeah.
Phenomeno man. And I think like if you have your coach and it's all about your it's never about X and O's. It's somebody down that fucking coaches have got X and O's. It's all about how hard can your players play for you.
Emotivation. Right. So right. You can be a coach that has zero X and O's but you have your team run through a one fucking wall from you.
That's half the battle right there. And that's all coaching is. That's all coaching is. And the moment you just take a player aside and the moment you do something that's you know not go you know because as a coach you have to think you're a coach your father figure also.
That's literally a coach to start from. But the moment you cross that line because of money the moment you cross that line because relationships start letting guys do what they want that's when you become a bad coach and lose the shit. Yeah. All the good coaches they coach the same.
Obviously you have your star players but we're gonna coach you the fucking saying no you can't be late or you can't be fucking late. Right. You know so if you have more of those I think you know the game will change with basketball and with coaching and that's all you're saying right there. How much of the Cavs success is because of the dancing frog.
Put me on I'm not aware. So there was a In Cleveland there was a guy in a frog costume that he was dancing in the streets after the Cavs won a couple games and now they've invited him in and he dances in the arena after they win. How important is that if you're a player because I feel like that's pretty damn important. Okay.
I mean as a player I probably wouldn't even know that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I probably would From a fans perspective. I would say Kenny Atkinson deserves I don't know 20% of the credit the players another 20 the dancing frog 60%.
Okay. So like from a fan if you come there dancing frogs not there he's sick you're like. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give me a little management.
Yeah. It's like a it's like a gang what's in the game type of about it. Yeah. Well it's also one of those situations where every team that has that momentum and they're maybe like on the cusp of a special season it always feels like there's some little funny story that they start rallying around whether it's a slogan and dancing frog and we've seen a million time.
I'll give 25% credit to George and Yang. Yeah. Most wins in the NBA since 2020. Yeah.
He's even he can hope though. Yeah. He can. Yeah.
He plays the right way. Yeah. He plays the right way all the time. Yeah.
Yeah. He can hope though. Yes. I'm reading right now Jared Allen said I've been wanting to dance with that frog since I've seen him.
So he was and then froggy the frog finally showed up. Wait is him froggy the frog? Yeah. Froggy is here.
That's okay. Froggy is here. Oh, it's a she. I'm sorry.
Froggy is a she. Froggy is here and there are no plans for her to leave anytime soon. Love that. City has embraced the dancing frog.
Yeah. So yeah, this is Miss Froggy. Miss Froggy. Yeah.
And the whole city is just embracing the frog. Love that. I think that's more important than people realize. It's just it's a dancing frog.
Yeah. Do vibes have anything to do with a team success? Like if a city is having fun? Sometimes.
Yeah. Sometimes though. Like you go like a place like Miami. The vibe is always going to be fun, right?
But you don't want it to be too funny. Drange you. Right. I think some of some of our like sick sick game days and sick like, you know, the night before the games is like a Phoenix where you can have some fun.
You can have a nice dinner. You can go out to a nice bar, but you're not going to be out to, you know, four o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the morning. That's a 130 type of night. But with the same amount of fun, the same adrenaline pumping through your veins, the same vibes going through around, you know, but it gets when you to a place like New York and it's a lot of distractions and you know, hour here, hour here, next thing, you know, it's time to go to sleep when you're trying to battle with the time of getting rest and not doing things but keeping routine.
I think that's when it becomes a problem. So I got a dumb question. How often if you're a player, are you looking at the standings? Are you actually like, okay, where are we at the standings every day or is it just like every five games?
Every five games you look at it. Every five games are kind of to tell you to exactly where you at where you had that. So if you're the Sixers right now and you look at the standings and you're two and 11 man, I'm a little too in 11. Is that right, Max?
Can we get a stat check on that? I'll pull it up because I texted to the group last night. There are games out of first place and they've only played routine games. My question to you all, who do you think they need more?
Was it PEPF? Yeah, to me Paul George and Maxie. Maxie's been out all three of them. I think they need the game that they've won Maxie's played.
Okay. Is it record correct Max? It's two and 11. That would be two and 11 correct.
That's bad. Yeah. What point in the season are you like, because you've been on some teams that have not been great. Like, is there a moment in the season where you're like, all right, this is kind of what we are?
No. You keep fighting. Yeah, you always keep fighting. Right.
I haven't been on like a two and 11 team. I've shared with the Lakers. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, that was bad. Would you guys end up that year? I don't know. I end up with the rules.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, hell of a run we made. Yes.
We made a run all the way to a play in game. In 18, eight. Yeah. I was there 15 and I was there.
Yeah. Do you think you're on source special? Lose the playing game. You think the Sixers they could use a guy like Patrick Beverly?
Anything, right? Any team. You know, and I'm just, no, I'm not, you know, gas myself, but you know, my work has been shown in the NBA. Any team spark.
Any team. It's just, when you get Pat, you adapt my personality to the team or anything. Yeah. Right.
So the personality might be, I don't know, game, I don't know, 39 and you're playing in Portland and it's code and it's fucking gray outside. Right. My competitive spirit go for like game 39, game two, game three of the playoffs. Yeah.
I'm catching five and it rubs off on you. My ability to be focused and shoot around and treat each game like a championship game. Like that shit rubs off on you. And next thing, you know, yeah, you playing 82 games, but you're treating them all like playoff games too.
So the energy is different. You know, the competitive spirit is there more, you know, when I'm on a team. Yeah. And that's the spark because it's a long season and then you see that all the time where teams will just kind of take off nights.
They don't take off night with that. Yeah. I can't. Yeah.
And at the same time, I'm the player also is still trying to prove myself. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, fuck it. This guy's not playing.
Okay. This is my time to come up and show everyone fucking y'all can score it. Oh, this guy's not playing. Okay.
Cool. Let me lock his ass up. So it's always a opportunity for me. I always took it as opportunity to like showcase my talents also.
Yeah. Is there one thing that you watch, not being in the NBA right now and you still feel like you root for them more? Like I was a special team. The Bucks.
Yeah. So you told Giannis make your free throws. Yeah. I just, they're a short time, but like, when you go to the playoffs with a team, right, and you go through, not only the playoffs, but like ups and downs with a team, right?
And then you go to the playoffs, you go through ups and downs, then you go through injuries with a team, right? I mean, that's, that's everything you can ask for in sports, all summed up in one and to have a chance that happened all from my time there into the playoffs was it made us okay, fucking, no, Giannis, we got to get closer. We got to get better. I'll fuck it.
No, I'll fuck. We got to get better. We got to get closer. Fucking no, dang.
I'll fuck. We got to get better. We got to get closer. Just made you a tight net ass family.
Yeah. You know, and then, you know, you have those opportunities, the playoffs, the guys not healthy, everyone's rooting against you. You on the road, it forces a bond that you know, you don't get from a lot of team. Yeah.
Do you feel, if you're a pap and you're playing on a team with LeBron or Giannis, do you feel extra pressure being like, I, there's a standard that they're playing it that I have to reach? Yeah. So it was one time I was with the Lakers and, and we're planning, we're planning Boston. And I think, I think I just got a tip dunk.
I think I just hit a big shot. I'm at the free throw line. I missed the free throw. I didn't, LeBron gave me a look like, come on, man, make you my fucking free throws.
Right. And I'm like, Oh shit. Like, you're right. Right.
But now I take that. Like, I think I've only missed three free throws this entire year. And I remember that. That was my motivation to, you know, what make you my fucking free throws.
That's the, that's like the definition of greatness. Everyone is a great player lifts everyone else's game. So now that's me on my team. Yeah.
I'm gonna go fucking on and go fuck, I mean, free throws, you miss one, two, three, four, quarter make your fucking free throws. And do you have that feeling too? Like say you're playing with the honest where it's not, it's not like, John is his goddess, but I would imagine players play with more confidence knowing you're a team and not their team. Yeah.
And then also, and other players play with less confidence when you go against John is, you know, and I can make more mistakes. Right. Right. So my mistakes aren't magnified if John is his not out there versus when he is out there.
So I can go for steel. I can take a bullshad at charge. They're ref my call charge because of my name, not because of how my foot was. I might take fuck up shot.
I might go off into rebound when I suppose, you know, the honest got us. Yeah. Ron got us. But that comes with greatness also.
Yeah. You know, and I'm learning that on nothing. And also now that I'm playing it, my teammates allow to do that. I just can't do.
Yeah. You know, looking to you. Yeah. Yeah.
Have you seen Cooper flag play basketball? Oh, football player basketball. Never play basketball. No, I haven't seen that.
Okay. Because, uh, handsome white boys might be back. Yeah. Am I the number one pick American white boys might be back.
He's so I changed. He's gone to Israel. He's for me. Right.
Boys. My people. Yeah. Just keep your eye on that guy.
He can hoop. He might be the first white guy drafted number one overall American white guy draft number one overall since like the 70s. Yeah. But my thing about that, I like, I like him.
I like him. I do. I like him. Never see.
I never seen him play. I never seen him play up close and close. I seen highlights. Okay.
Okay. He has eyes. Yeah. Um, fact, and he has it seems like he has some type of toughness.
He's got toughness. And I think and I think regardless of which is skill is that if you have sizing up toughness, that's okay. He's so good. He's an elite white guy that plays a Duke that is not he'd be.
Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of stuff. Right now he's an easy guy to root for because he's just so fucking good.
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Who had the most toughness that you ever played with? The most toughness. Where you're like, damn, even because you're considered obviously a tough player. Yeah.
But you see you play with someone or play against someone you're like, damn, even I feel like I went compared to this person. Russ. Yeah. I'm a fucka tough.
He don't die. Yeah. He just keep coming at you. Don't just I don't go fuck fuck it.
We down. We're up. I don't go fuck what's going on. I'm just keep coming at you.
Keep coming at you. Like Russ, easy. Yeah. Unbelievable toughness.
Hey, I see that. Did you ever have a teammate that was that tough? That was like, you know, like respect. You two kind of win at it.
See who could be the toughest guy on your own team who was going to be the tough guy? No, I can always you know. Yeah. And like I get on the team with me and Bobby and then but I'm older.
So it's like Bobby understand that I went to Arkansas before him up. You know, I'll pay the way before him. So it's always a respecting and I'm coming. You got to think when I'm on the team, I'm not coming like, Hey, man, give me the motherfucking ball.
I want to shoot, you know, like I'm not coming like that. I'm coming more like, and you know, if we swing that around a couple more times, you get that same shot wide open. Yeah. You know, so like it's just it's just different.
Yeah. You're talking about Giannis earlier. You do a pretty funny impression of Giannis like the first time that he told you like I want to play with you one day. Can you just can you tell that story?
So I we're home. We're playing Milwaukee and I'm with Minnesota and how the Western Conference and the Eastern Conference work that you don't really get to see Eastern Conference home a lot is just one home one away. So I think we seen them the first game of the season and obviously, you know, we seen them in Milwaukee. So you know, you want to play them while you're at home, you know, you practice pregame thinking that Giannis you take your nap.
Okay, cool. As you're thinking to Giannis, you get to the game. I don't see any Giannis. I'm fucking frustrated now.
I'm actually angry now. Yeah. I don't think I think I got kicked out of that game. I think I've only played that game that same game that we're talking about.
I think I only played two minutes. I think I shove the guy and kick me out literally. So we working out pregame. I don't know 60 on I don't know 70 on the clock, you know, before the game starts.
And I see he's Giannis is a late scratch. I go mail to fuck me. I want to play him. I go out.
I see the NASA shout out to the NASA's his older brother and his older brother's always been a fan of me. Obviously because I played in Greek whenever, you know, around there at the same time. So he's always been, you know, been a fan of, you know, my upbringing. I started from Greece.
So I see him and I'm like, yo, what the fuck your brother? Oh, the fucking duck and smoke. He laughed at me like, no, I'm not man. He in the back in the back.
I know fuck that man. Tell us I asked to play. So often I start my workout. I look up, I see Greek coming out the tunnel.
Okay, for sure. He about to come over here. He go, excuse me, guys, excuse me, guys. Like you got to understand this is like, this is Greek freak.
Yeah, this isn't like, I don't know, Grace and Allen or somebody. You know, this is Greek freak walking through another professionals, individual shooting time with other NBA coaches stopping and everything. Like, I never that smoke. I never that smoke.
I never that smoke. You know, I'm saying, so yeah, that was the first time I'm like, oh, yeah, this is my fucking real deal. Yeah, my fucking real deal. He's like, he's like, he's like, because of the injuries and how everything's gone down the couple last couple years, people have kind of forgotten it.
Yeah, like how great he is. Yeah, I don't think we're gotten. I think that, you know, when you don't win it, you get hurt, you don't win it. I don't know, you win it.
You win it while you hurt. You know, you fuck this shit up. You know, early that that that player I was coming back giving my fucking 60. I think they're looking for that person all the time now since they got a since that happened.
You know, I don't think that's fair to the player. Yeah, I was a legendary run. He went on that finals just absolutely dominant. And then afterwards he goes to Chick-fil-A and orders 50 chicken nuggets.
Yeah, because they have this regular dude. What was your favorite memory of being teammates is Robin Lopez? Robin Lopez. I wasn't teammates with Robin Lopez.
He tweeted last year, February 8, 2024. This is when the trade deadline. I enjoyed being teammates with Patrick Beverly for all of an hour and a 45 minutes. I'll never forget those times.
He's great too. Him and broger. You were teammates. We were an hour and 45.
I don't think I was leaving Shikans. Oh, there's no way. No way. No way.
He's great though. Yeah, no way. He's great though. Family is great.
Family is great. My mom is great. I'm off the other night. What do you hit?
He went five to five from three? And I think he had the Magic Johnson up and underlay. Yeah. Yeah.
They're still coming. Hey, I have a teammate question though for real. Yeah. Be ball Paul.
Paul Reed. Yeah. Is he as cool as I've made it out in my head? Okay.
Well, you say cool. I mean, he just his nickname's Be ball Paul. All right. Okay.
I got a question. When you see when you see when you look at a person like Paul Reed, what do you instantly see? Well, it's not looking at him. It's the fact that he's Be ball Paul and they chant Be ball Paul and that's like the funniest nickname possible.
Frank the Tank Five. Yeah, right. Be ball Paul. Like that's a funny kind of like the frog in Cleveland.
That's the fan experience. I mean, you tell Max Be ball Paul. He's he hustles. I love Be ball Paul.
He's not on the sixers anymore, but you know, he's a guy who came from the G League. Out the mud. Out the mud. The other mud sweatshirts are fun.
Are funny and cool that he would make his own merch and sell it himself. Yeah, he would. That was the other thing. Yeah.
You would have to just bend Moam. I've been on him for a shirt. He'd have a store. Yeah.
He sent me out the mud. Yeah. No, he's like a good success story. You know, fought for what he got and he was a good player.
And he was a dog. Yeah. Yeah. Be ball Paul.
I mean, you can't just tell dog on everybody. I think we ball Paul's a dog. A dog? Yeah.
What kind? That's the difference. I got to have a Yorkie. Yeah, I know you have a little, little, almost a cat.
He might be like a golden retriever. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Right. Yeah. You like when he's around? Love when he's around.
He's a golden retriever. And then also like he's very lovable. Also, maybe he has like saved the kid out of a well or something. Type shit.
Yeah. Yeah. He's had one like great moment. Right.
Like, yeah, dog that got the key to the city for having a great week. Yeah. And you're feeling the way I had to get help out. Right.